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Re: JV at EuroBasket 2013 (vs Czech Republic 12:15 PM ET Tod 

Post#881 » by Dalek » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:02 pm

I still like Vesely as a four man. He has great athleticism but his jumper is just not good enough for a three. He can be a poor-man's Kirilenko in the NBA, but he is probably destined for a career in Europe considering how badly he was treated in Washington. He was given 11 mins per game as a 22 year-old lottery pick. Terrible management on a terrible team has likely killed Jan's interest in an NBA career.
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Post#882 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:04 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:What are JV's half time stats?


I can give you an estimate but they could be way off.

6 points, 4 rebounds, 1 block, 1 turnover in about 10 minutes.

Don't think he's missed from the field (2/2) and I think he went to the line twice but I missed his first trip. If he got there twice then he was 1/2 the second time.

Hopefully someone has a better stat line!
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
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Post#883 » by JV4MVP » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:14 pm

Dalek wrote:I still like Vesely as a four man. He has great athleticism but his jumper is just not good enough for a three. He can be a poor-man's Kirilenko in the NBA, but he is probably destined for a career in Europe considering how badly he was treated in Washington. He was given 11 mins per game as a 22 year-old lottery pick. Terrible management on a terrible team has likely killed Jan's interest in an NBA career.


I feel like Vesely had his opportunities but always underperformed. The 11.8 minutes is a little misleading because he had a dozen games where he played 20+ minutes, or close to 20. And the 2 minute games skew the average. Look how the Wizards gave him good minutes early in the season: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... elog/2013/. He just failed to show anything special. And he's too timid offensively.

But anyways, he was just a bad 6th pick. He's not particularly skilled and his game revolves around dunking and rebounding. And in SL he was ok. He's still young but I don't think his skill set will ever justify where he was drafted.

LoveMyRaps, JV has 8 pts and something like 5 rbs
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Post#884 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:14 pm

Sweden has some decent shooters.
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Post#885 » by SkywalkerAC » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:18 pm

No Jonas to start the second half?
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Post#886 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:19 pm

SkywalkerAC wrote:No Jonas to start the second half?


He didn't start the game either. Don't think he did anyways. Just keeping fatigue in check is my guess.
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Post#887 » by SkywalkerAC » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:20 pm

Was that D-Mo with the sweet post move (and then the block)?
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Post#888 » by xprt » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:22 pm

SkywalkerAC wrote:Was that D-Mo with the sweet post move (and then the block)?

No one of the brothers Lavrinovic.
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Post#889 » by UcanUwill » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:22 pm

Dalek wrote:I still like Vesely as a four man. He has great athleticism but his jumper is just not good enough for a three. He can be a poor-man's Kirilenko in the NBA, but he is probably destined for a career in Europe considering how badly he was treated in Washington. He was given 11 mins per game as a 22 year-old lottery pick. Terrible management on a terrible team has likely killed Jan's interest in an NBA career.


It was a terrible idea making him into a 4. They drafted SF with no perimeter skills thinking they will put him out of position and everything will be fine... His only identity was perimeter defense. And they destroyed it. He wasn't able to play 4 for a second, he had no chance whatsoever succeeding as PF.
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Post#890 » by goodjoey » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:26 pm

k um...is jonas even on the bench?
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Post#891 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:27 pm

goodjoey wrote:k um...is jonas even on the bench?


Nah they decided to put him on the floor.
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Post#892 » by goodjoey » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:28 pm

Clementine9 wrote:
goodjoey wrote:k um...is jonas even on the bench?


Nah they decided to put him on the floor.


lol, finally
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Post#893 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:30 pm

goodjoey wrote:
Clementine9 wrote:
goodjoey wrote:k um...is jonas even on the bench?


Nah they decided to put him on the floor.


lol, finally


haha we all want him on 100% of the time.

And he went with that left handed move again just now. Good to see! It missed this time but it's very controlled and he has a nice soft touch with it.
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
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Post#894 » by Collie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:33 pm

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Clementine9 wrote:None of the children on Finland can guard JV or DM. Get it down low, my god.


They're playing the Czechs today :D

I hate how Dmo stays on the perimeter. They need to post him up as they do to JV. He's a better interior scorer.


Really? You'd think he'd shoot better than 45% if that was the case...
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Post#895 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:33 pm

What a magnificent block.
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Post#896 » by RPzB » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:34 pm

Beast mode!
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Post#897 » by AK47MVP » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:34 pm

dunk, block, rebound, hook shot made. 100% effective.
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Post#898 » by goodjoey » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:34 pm

RPzB wrote:Beast mode!


he loves big baskets thats his **** problem. BEAST
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Post#899 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:35 pm

Collie wrote:
JV4MVP wrote:
Clementine9 wrote:None of the children on Finland can guard JV or DM. Get it down low, my god.


They're playing the Czechs today :D

I hate how Dmo stays on the perimeter. They need to post him up as they do to JV. He's a better interior scorer.


Really? You'd think he'd shoot better than 45% if that was the case...


Well every player on the Greece team today is tiny, even he should be able to eat them alive.
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Post#900 » by Clementine9 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:36 pm

Ok, in my opinion that's a bad rebound by the guard. Jonas had position and could have just gone right back up with it. The guard just came in and took it back to the perimeter. Ridiculous.
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