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Post#41 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Mon Sep 2, 2013 7:21 pm

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1UPZ wrote:I'm still so high on Goodwin and Len's very intriguing... So I want a player to fit in next to them.


Wouldn't a smart PF who can drain a shot, yanks 10+ boards and is perhaps the best outlet passer in the league intrigue you a bit?

I'd go all in to get Love. His plusses way out number his minuses... draft picks be damned.

I'd offer our 2015 1st, Bledsoe, either or both of the Morri, and their own 2014 1st back for Love.

The only thing I wouldn't put on the table is our 2014 1st, Goodwin and Len. I think that along with Dragic is our core.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#42 » by thamadkant » Mon Sep 2, 2013 7:57 pm

^^

Yeah, pretty much 2014 1st pick (if suns was get lucky) is off limits unless Lebron/Durant.

If Suns get pick 5 and over, then I start to make phone calls around the league.

Kevin Love is 22/14 player amazing fantasy player numbers but his impact on real games is that of a 2nd option star.
David Lee was a 20/12 player too at one stage and once he became surrounded by other good scorers as a warriors he's just a "good" player now.


A mature Cousins is still more appealing than Love IMO, purely because of defensive potential still.
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Post#43 » by phrazbit » Mon Sep 2, 2013 8:22 pm

Cousins is arguably a worse defender than Love, he is really bad on that end. I am not at all interested in Cousins, the Kings were actually worse with him on the court than off it last year. He is a stat padding cancer.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#44 » by Kyler Murray » Mon Sep 2, 2013 8:37 pm

How about Horford? Do you consider him a superstar? I could see ATL trading him down the line, their team is not that apealing and he got tired playing out of position. Also, not superstars, but guys I would look at to replace Gortat are Asik (via trade), or Okafor (as a free agent, not at that ridiculous money he's making now).
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Post#45 » by SunsRback4Good » Mon Sep 2, 2013 10:12 pm

Suns were always fun and exciting with pfs( Barkley, Amare and Pgs ( Kidd, KJ, and Nash). I wouldn't mind Kevin Love wearing a Suns uni :D. He could be a Dirk-like player for us but definitely needs to stay healthy.
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Post#46 » by BurningHeart » Mon Sep 2, 2013 11:28 pm

You don't have to get your main star first. Maybe getting someone like Love, who you may not view as a superstar in this league, would make it easier for us to get a "main star."
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Post#47 » by Ryu » Tue Sep 3, 2013 12:31 am

BurningHeart wrote:You don't have to get your main star first. Maybe getting someone like Love, who you may not view as a superstar in this league, would make it easier for us to get a "main star."


How is that? We would mos def surrender most of our assets in a potential trade for Kevin Love.

I do believe our "main star" will come from the draft. Next summer one, hopefully. Needless to say I have high hopes for Archie and Len too, of course.
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Post#48 » by csavage658 » Tue Sep 3, 2013 2:54 am

Ulquiorra wrote:How about Horford? Do you consider him a superstar? I could see ATL trading him down the line, their team is not that apealing and he got tired playing out of position. Also, not superstars, but guys I would look at to replace Gortat are Asik (via trade), or Okafor (as a free agent, not at that ridiculous money he's making now).


Horford playing PF for the Suns would make me extremely happy. I think Atlanta would really consider getting rid of him if they are out of it early this season and he could probably be had for a lot less than anybody else being discussed in this thread.
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Post#49 » by King4Day » Tue Sep 3, 2013 3:30 am

So the only more realistic player I've seen mentioned has been Horford.
What do you guys think we'd have to give up for him?

Dragic, Gortat, Indy & Minny 2014 firsts, Morii?

Assuming the deal was done this year.

Probably not enough but what's everyone's thoughts?

Perhaps a deal surrounding Bledsoe if Goodwin works out.
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Post#50 » by King4Day » Tue Sep 3, 2013 3:32 am

The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#51 » by BurningHeart » Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:25 am

DarkHawk wrote:The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.


I'll be willing to take the risk of having such a problem.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#52 » by phrazbit » Tue Sep 3, 2013 6:50 am

DarkHawk wrote:The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.


Al Horford is going to get a max contract too.
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Post#53 » by Revived » Tue Sep 3, 2013 7:21 am

DarkHawk wrote:The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.

Lol, if that's the Suns biggest problem in a few years, then that's a good thing.

Let's worry about them becoming players that deserve big deals first and then we'll talk about how we are going to keep them longterm.
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Post#54 » by NaturalBuns » Tue Sep 3, 2013 3:22 pm

Could be a guy like Iman Shumpert yeah hes not a star. But he fits what we are trying to build, young and really good potential. Harrison Barnes same thing.

I know alot of you will disagree and stuff but im gonna predict who I think it actually is. Its gonna be Rondo. Remember I said it. Obviously Dragic is gone when this happens
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#55 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Tue Sep 3, 2013 4:06 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:Could be a guy like Iman Shumpert yeah hes not a star. But he fits what we are trying to build, young and really good potential. Harrison Barnes same thing.

I know alot of you will disagree and stuff but im gonna predict who I think it actually is. Its gonna be Rondo. Remember I said it. Obviously Dragic is gone when this happens

I hope not, I actually like Dragic more. He's way cheaper, a better shooter and arguably just as good a passer. Rondo plays better D but that's it in my eyes.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#56 » by King4Day » Tue Sep 3, 2013 8:32 pm

Teaser Pleaser wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.

Lol, if that's the Suns biggest problem in a few years, then that's a good thing.

Let's worry about them becoming players that deserve big deals first and then we'll talk about how we are going to keep them longterm.


Yea I didn't mean for it to come off as a bad thing.
I'll take that situation every day of the week. I'd like to think McDonough will be smarter with regard to handling the financial stress that OKC has failed at so far.
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Re: Our next superstar 

Post#57 » by Revived » Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:40 am

DarkHawk wrote:
Teaser Pleaser wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:The big problem with Love is that he'll want a max deal. If we get him, we run the risk of falling in OKC's situation where if the stars align and Goodwin, Len, and Bledsoe all want big deals, not to mention next years pick, we'll have a lot of money to spend on not many guys.

Not a bad problem to have but going after an Al Horford via trade or FA would make more sense.

Lol, if that's the Suns biggest problem in a few years, then that's a good thing.

Let's worry about them becoming players that deserve big deals first and then we'll talk about how we are going to keep them longterm.


Yea I didn't mean for it to come off as a bad thing.
I'll take that situation every day of the week. I'd like to think McDonough will be smarter with regard to handling the financial stress that OKC has failed at so far.

Yea let's hope that McDonough doesn't make idiotic moves like not amnestying Perkins plus I think if we are a good team, then Sarver won't mind paying the luxury tax.
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Post#58 » by NaturalBuns » Fri Sep 6, 2013 6:52 pm

I don't think its a big name now since the cutting of M Beas.
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