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Post#21 » by bobbyc » Sun Sep 1, 2013 4:35 pm

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"I just look at him as a bitter person just getting out of Boston. He doesn't really know what New York is all about. He's been playing in Boston his whole career," [J.R.] Smith told ESPN New York on Saturday.

Smith, speaking without anger in his voice, added: "He just knows, just know that his words have consequences and he's going to have to pay for them."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... rce-bitter

What's he going to do, play defense? I wonder if Dolan asked him to say all this stuff after that meeting with Stern.


I don't understand what the hell he is trying to say.

Because he is not from New York he can't play here?

What is Paul bitter about?

What kind of consequences can come from saying that they are going to run New York?
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Post#22 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Sep 1, 2013 4:59 pm

LOL Jr Miss talking smack.

Call me when you shoot over 40%.
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Post#23 » by VCRJKidd15 » Mon Sep 2, 2013 4:30 am

don't mind the trash talk. I'm loving it the Knicks and Nets rivalry is gonna make the NBA entertaining this year unless the games end up blowouts =/
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Post#24 » by DrazenForThree » Mon Sep 2, 2013 12:37 pm

i love smith talking after he got suspended, high, and sucked in the playoffs only to then get surgery after signign a huge deal and now is going to miss the start of the season
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Post#25 » by Paradise » Mon Sep 2, 2013 10:23 pm

Reggie responds :lol:

https://twitter.com/ReggieEvans30/statu ... 1052612608

The trash talk is pretty entertaining since everyone is pretty damn bored of waiting.
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Post#26 » by DrazenForThree » Mon Sep 2, 2013 10:44 pm

yea, just want the season to start...

its just hilarious how the knicks fans puff out their chests like they are some kind of world beaters because they were a 2 seed last year. like thats some kind of other worldly accomplishment, especially with the east in major transition(nets major changes, pacers growing up, bulls sans rose, celtics era ending, etc.)

then you have them thinking that because they wont have as many injuries they will somehow be better... which to me is the most misguided view of all. its not like they are getting rose or granger back from injury... hell all the guys they lost to injury basically retired(kidd/wallace) or moved on (camby). you'd think they'd be getting back a 33 year old kidd and wallace injury free or something the way they talk about not being plagued by having those guys injured.

not having those guys on the roster is kind of the same as them being injured anyhow.

dont even get me started on bargani. view the knicks board and the guy is some outside shooting assasin who has been killed by his poor cast. some dead eye shooter. yet they minimize the shooting impact of novack and copeland. :roll:

they are in for such a rude awakening. they still have major pieces with injury histories(amare/chandler) and they didnt address any of their major needs(defense at the 4/rebounding) while losing a ton from their major strengths(3 point shooting/passing).

their team as major diaster potential and a lower ceiling then a year ago. cant wait to see the bridge jumping they do once they start 11-8 or something
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Post#27 » by Paradise » Mon Sep 2, 2013 11:43 pm

DrazenForThree wrote:yea, just want the season to start...

its just hilarious how the knicks fans puff out their chests like they are some kind of world beaters because they were a 2 seed last year. like thats some kind of other worldly accomplishment, especially with the east in major transition(nets major changes, pacers growing up, bulls sans rose, celtics era ending, etc.)

then you have them thinking that because they wont have as many injuries they will somehow be better... which to me is the most misguided view of all. its not like they are getting rose or granger back from injury... hell all the guys they lost to injury basically retired(kidd/wallace) or moved on (camby). you'd think they'd be getting back a 33 year old kidd and wallace injury free or something the way they talk about not being plagued by having those guys injured.

not having those guys on the roster is kind of the same as them being injured anyhow.

dont even get me started on bargani. view the knicks board and the guy is some outside shooting assasin who has been killed by his poor cast. some dead eye shooter. yet they minimize the shooting impact of novack and copeland. :roll:

they are in for such a rude awakening. they still have major pieces with injury histories(amare/chandler) and they didnt address any of their major needs(defense at the 4/rebounding) while losing a ton from their major strengths(3 point shooting/passing).

their team as major diaster potential and a lower ceiling then a year ago. cant wait to see the bridge jumping they do once they start 11-8 or something

Pretty much. The thing is, you just have to accept them for who they are: a sad group of fans/organization that tries to make themselves feel better. this is just how they deal with being a big market blunder. Think about it, imagine being the biggest market team in the league and being the most embarrassing? Back in the 80s the Heat were the NBA's current version of the Bobcats and now the Heat have surpassed them in championships with their only drafted future hall of famer, D-Wade while the Knicks had Ewing and couldn't win it whatsoever. Now, they have a team that threatens them for the next 37 years that very well has the potential to outpace them like Miami.

They just have program themselves into being some big time franchise with a major ton of credibility. They'll act like they are so much better than the Nets and the Nets were their rag doll but in actuality, the Nets/Knicks have an all-time record of 84 to 87 against each other and a 5-5 record in playoff meetings.

They would actually alienate Brooklyn from New York City if they could just to not acknowledge the Nets as a NY team if they won it all this year. I've seen people say the NY media didn't pay any attention to the Nets and they were still not relevant as Jersey. Wrong.

The NY media had the Nets on the front pages and back last year:

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The Garden was the "mecca" of sports entertainment and basketball for years. Now, the NY media proclaims that Barclays is the new mecca, imagine that feeling. Now, they feel the need to continue to think that MSG is the mecca of basketball despite the fact, there has been 0 success in the current Garden.

They'll tell you the Nets have no fans despite the fact, the Nets averaged 95% attendance capacity on nights/days when the Knicks were playing at the Garden during a Nets game. They'll tell you the Nets only have control of Brooklyn not NYC, despite the fact, 30% or so of Nets attending games last season were from Manhattan, 10% from Long Island, 10% from Queens. In terms of viewership over 40% of people viewing the Nets games all season long were NY, 30% from NJ and the rest from CT. And the Nets brand is global despite it being strictly a "Brooklyn" team...Which never stopped the Dodgers from being a popular franchise either.

They'll tell you the Nets don't fill their own arena while the Nets finished with 96% arena attendance. Which is same as the Knicks and they will tell you the fans were "one hit wonders" and that's a lie, considering the season tickets have sold around a little more than the Knicks.

The way I see it, any insult is a sign of fear. Every deluded claim is a sign of endless hope that amounts to nothing. So, I don't feel anything but sympathy and pity for them actually. They'll just have to deal with the reality of their situation eventually.
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Post#28 » by 165bows » Mon Sep 2, 2013 11:54 pm

DrazenForThree wrote:yea, just want the season to start...

its just hilarious how the knicks fans puff out their chests like they are some kind of world beaters because they were a 2 seed last year. like thats some kind of other worldly accomplishment, especially with the east in major transition(nets major changes, pacers growing up, bulls sans rose, celtics era ending, etc.)

then you have them thinking that because they wont have as many injuries they will somehow be better... which to me is the most misguided view of all. its not like they are getting rose or granger back from injury... hell all the guys they lost to injury basically retired(kidd/wallace) or moved on (camby). you'd think they'd be getting back a 33 year old kidd and wallace injury free or something the way they talk about not being plagued by having those guys injured.

not having those guys on the roster is kind of the same as them being injured anyhow.

dont even get me started on bargani. view the knicks board and the guy is some outside shooting assasin who has been killed by his poor cast. some dead eye shooter. yet they minimize the shooting impact of novack and copeland. :roll:

they are in for such a rude awakening. they still have major pieces with injury histories(amare/chandler) and they didnt address any of their major needs(defense at the 4/rebounding) while losing a ton from their major strengths(3 point shooting/passing).

their team as major diaster potential and a lower ceiling then a year ago. cant wait to see the bridge jumping they do once they start 11-8 or something


C's fan checking in on PP and KG. Just had to post that I agree with that Knicks' assessment. I would add KMart to the injury history list, in between injuries, a trip to China and being unsigned, he hasn't played 50 games in four years. Chandler looked really bad in that first round series, and I can't help looking at him as the first domino. If he misses any significant time all those other front court guys are too many time bombs on the clock for too many minutes. Says something when Peace might be one of your most dependable front court guys.
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Post#29 » by SF_Warriors » Tue Sep 3, 2013 10:59 pm

I like how Knicks fans say their team is "deep". It is kinda like how Bosto nfans said their team was "deep" last season as well.

If they were truly confident about their team, they would say it was stacked.

The Nets are STACKED. It is up to health and chemistry if they are capable of winning the championship or not, because the talent is there.
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Post#30 » by Paradise » Thu Sep 5, 2013 4:59 pm

KG and Yormark in Beijing, China doing business marketing for the Nets.

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Off to beijing today for sales calls and meetings. Brooklyn nets are global. Seeing kg for dinner on thursday. He will be in china as well.


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Post#31 » by Idee Mixed » Thu Sep 5, 2013 8:20 pm

SF_Warriors wrote:I like how Knicks fans say their team is "deep". It is kinda like how Bosto nfans said their team was "deep" last season as well.

If they were truly confident about their team, they would say it was stacked.

The Nets are STACKED. It is up to health and chemistry if they are capable of winning the championship or not, because the talent is there.


Here is a conversation I am having on the Knicks board.


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Funny!!! Nets fans can do the same thing.

Nets have KG, Lopez, Blatche, AK-47, Evans, Pierce(6'7 235), Joe Johnson (6'7 240), Teletovic, Shengalia(6'9 240), and Plumlee.

You can hardly argue with age the likelihood of injuries in NBA increases, but to compare last years old Knick players of Sheed, K-Mart, Camby and Kidd to this years old players on Nets of KG, Pierce and Jet is just plain ridiculous. Sheed was called out of retirement, Camby was never health when he played for Knicks last year and his first time around, and Kidd only wanted to play back up PG minutes.

KG will probably play less games this year but that is being planned ahead of time. PP played 77 game last year. Melo played 67.



sorry
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Joe Johnson and Paul pierce are not PFs no matter what their height is.
Niets have AK-47, Blatche, Evans and the scrubs. they have depth at PF. not so much at center. they have tet and plumlee after lopez and KG

injury is always a difficult thing but often injured guys who are also late in their careers are a good bet to do it again.

Id bet Amare will spend significant time injured.
Ill also bet Lopez and KG will too.

beyond that its luck.

point was the Niets have a lot to worry about with regards to their starting lineup




Well I can make an argument that JJ and PP can play PF. The reality is Melo isnt a PF. He plays there because the Knicks dont have any better options offensively. In JJ and PP case, they have always had a PF so they have never needed to play that position (JJ -Amare, Marion, Smith and Hortford; PP- Walker and KG) Melo is usually defended by SFs regardless of who is playing PF on the opposing team. So JJ and PP can play PF and still be guarded by an opposing SF. JJ and PP will definitely not guard post banging PFs but either should Melo. Melo is superior in breaking down opposing SF or PF off the dribble and elevating over his defender to shoot, but he isnt IMO that superior in the post than JJ or PP. They have more of an arsenal in the post then Melo. In the paint, JJ has a variety of quick floaters while PP has a wicked turn around jumper. So it is not that far fetched that if Melo can play PF so can JJ or PP.

One of the biggest mistakes Knick fans and NBA anal-yst make is the lack of understanding of the versatility of the Nets roster. Most of the players on the Nets can play 2 or more positions. The Knicks have that two but the Nets are much more versatile.

Dwill(PG/SG) JJ(SG/SF), PP(SG/SF), KG(PF/C), Lopez(PF/C)
Liv (PG/SG/SF) Jet(PG/SG), AK(SF/PF), Blatche(PF/C), Evans(PF/C)
and the rest of the bench

NoLayupRule wrote:Niets have AK-47, Blatche, Evans and the scrubs. they have depth at PF. not so much at center. they have tet and plumlee after lopez and KG



This isnt correct. The versatility is beyond just that.
PF = KG, Blatche, AK, Evans, Televic, Plumlee
C = Lopez, KG, Blatche, Evans, Plumlee

I could throw Lopez in the PF mix too but it isnt necessary to make this point and you would most likely not agree.
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Post#32 » by 165bows » Thu Sep 5, 2013 8:37 pm

One thing to really appreciate about Pierce and KG is that those guys play. I agree with the above post, even though they are older, they have managed to stay on the court. Rivers used to say one of the traits of a superstar is being available, ie, not in and out constantly with injury. Those guys are pros and prepare to play, even if they have a real issue. There were plenty over the last few years that wouldn't come out until after the fact. As old as they were, the major injuries the last few years in Boston were the younger guys, Rondo, Bradley, Sullinger, Etc.
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Post#33 » by M I K E » Thu Sep 5, 2013 9:15 pm

From Brooklyn Game...Doc Rivers speaking about Garnett.

“I don’t necessarily know if he wanted to go. But he went and now when you talk to him ... he’s excited. He’s excited about his new team and he really believes they have a chance of knocking Miami off in the East.”


http://thebrooklyngame.com/doc-rivers-t ... -brooklyn/

Garnett sounds like he's all in. :D
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Post#34 » by Rich Rane » Thu Sep 5, 2013 9:45 pm

KG was asked about his new team, and said he has had dinner with DWill & trained a bit with him in L.A. As far as his thoughts on Brooklyn’s chance to compete for a title, he had this to say:
“I already feel this is a championship-caliber team. They definitely have the temperament of a champion & Deron has a strong heart & strong personality-he’s a good leader-Joe Johnson too. They’re team players and I’m happy to join them.”

On playing the four or five while with the Nets:
“Playing ball is the most important, no matter what position-I have no particular preference. But if I had to choose between the four and the five, I would definitely choose the four. Brook (Nets’ center Lopez) has become one of the league’s top inside players…I’ve always admired his style, attack & defense.”

http://redsarmy.com/2013/09/04/kg-bosto ... -my-heart/

Already, KG and his ego problems! Ugh!
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Post#35 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Sep 5, 2013 11:10 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brettyormark/status/375621444249874432[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brettyormark/status/375631150191886337[/tweet]
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Post#36 » by Paradise » Fri Sep 6, 2013 8:31 pm

KG and Yormark putting in work.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brettyormark/status/375845371743723520[/tweet]
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Post#37 » by DrazenForThree » Sat Sep 7, 2013 1:24 pm

Paradise wrote:KG and Yormark putting in work.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brettyormark/status/375845371743723520[/tweet]


wonder what this is all about?
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Post#38 » by Paradise » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:20 pm

The beef continues

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Post#39 » by NyCeEvO » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:42 am

Some of Pierce's 2012-13 highlights...he's too old.

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Post#40 » by exculpatory » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:02 pm

Awesome hi-lights. STILL elite as all hell.
SamIam 2010: Truth's ability to play so incredibly efficiently is so UNDERAPPRECIATED. Bballcool 2012: Amazing how great Pierce has been for so long. Continues to defy age! KG 2013: P is original Celtic. Wherever he goes, we go. This is The Truth's house.

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