Hopper15 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
I see a lot of streaming in your future.
I saw that before his first pick.
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Hopper15 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
I see a lot of streaming in your future.
fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
theman wrote:Hopper15 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
I see a lot of streaming in your future.
I saw that before his first pick.


bww78 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
Good in points, FG% and FT%.
Above average in rebounds and blocks.
Below average in TO's and threes.
Bad in assists and steals.
You should win more games than you lose.
theman wrote:Hopper15 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
I see a lot of streaming in your future.
I saw that before his first pick.

fraanciiscoo wrote:theman wrote:Hopper15 wrote:I see a lot of streaming in your future.
I saw that before his first pick.
funny that
a) woody and wb finish with more moves that i
a.1) this year is not going to be different imo
Curtis Lemansky wrote:bww78 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
Good in points, FG% and FT%.
Above average in rebounds and blocks.
Below average in TO's and threes.
Bad in assists and steals.
You should win more games than you lose.
Disagree with this. Allen, Pierce, Lawson, Crawford, Battier, McLemore puts this team above average (somehwere around 5-7 range).. Crawford - Allen - Battier - Pierce all nearly get 2 3's per game. TO's should be average as well (nobody except Lawson (2.5) gets more than 2 turnovers per game.).
On the other hand, blocks should be just average. Gasol and Val bring blocks but nobody else on the roster averages more than 1 bpg if I'm not mistaken
fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
sabonis wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
I don't have spreadsheets like you guys do but does this team have lots of scoring? because Crawford will be scoring less, PP (due to team) and Allen (due to age) will score less as well. Sullinger-Prince-Vala-Battier-Smith-McRoberts are hustle type guys
and Lawson is just an ok scorer.
bww said the team was strong in points but all I see is a weak to mediocre team in points, of course as I said I don't have a spreadsheet, I just comment by taking a quick look.
theman wrote:Hopper15 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
I see a lot of streaming in your future.
I saw that before his first pick.


Curtis Lemansky wrote:Both Allen and Battier's mpg declining doesnt make sense to me. Miami's main concern will be protecting Wade during the season so they will be monitoring Wade's minutes very closely. Furthermore Mike Miller is gone so his 15 mpg is up for grabs as well. That means more pt opportunities for both Allen and Battier because Miami havent added anyone of worth during off-season. I expect their pt to stay the same at worst. And I have very little qualms about them starting coasting. Shaq was never a hard-worker, Allen is probably one of the hardest working players in the history of NBA and Battier is a consummate pro whose work ethic is never questioned. I dont think they will suddenly start coasting.
Curtis Lemansky wrote:Disagree with this. Allen, Pierce, Lawson, Crawford, Battier, McLemore puts this team above average (somehwere around 5-7 range).. Crawford - Allen - Battier - Pierce all nearly get 2 3's per game.
TO's should be average as well (nobody except Lawson (2.5) gets more than 2 turnovers per game.).
On the other hand, blocks should be just average. Gasol and Val bring blocks but nobody else on the roster averages more than 1 bpg if I'm not mistaken
Woody Allen wrote:How is it good at FG%, should be the question. Crawford, McLemore, DeRozan and Pierce are all FG% killers and I see no Shaquille O'Neal on that roster to make up for those. West and Gasol do shoot around 49% but they only attempted 13,8 and 10,9 field goals per game respectively last year.
sabonis wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:my team
PG Ty Lawson pg
sg DeMar DeRozan sg/sf
g Jamal Crawford pg/sg
g Ray Allen sg
sf Paul Pierce sg/sf
PF David West Pf
f Jared Sullinger PF
f Tayshaun Prince sf/PF
C Marc Gasol C
C Jonas Valanciunas C
b Ben McLemore Pg/sg
b Shane Battier sg/sf
b Josh McRoberts PF/c
b Jason Smith Pf/c
I don't have spreadsheets like you guys do but does this team have lots of scoring? because Crawford will be scoring less, PP (due to team) and Allen (due to age) will score less as well. Sullinger-Prince-Vala-Battier-Smith-McRoberts are hustle type guys
and Lawson is just an ok scorer.
bww said the team was strong in points but all I see is a weak to mediocre team in points, of course as I said I don't have a spreadsheet, I just comment by taking a quick look.
writersblock wrote:
I think Allen, Pierce, Battier, and Crawford all take hits to their numbers this year.
Pierce may be the one who is the most unscathed by his situation. He averaged under 2 3s a game (1.8) in 33 mins. I can see him playing closer to 30 throughout the year, to preserve his health/stamina for the playoffs. I'd give him 1.5 3s a game.
Crawford was 6th man behind [removed because he hasn't been picked yet]. [removed because he hasn't been picked yet]!! Two 3s in 30 mins. a game is what it earned him. Redick is a considerable upgrade at starting SG, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Crawford's numbers go down as well, closer to 1.5 3s a game.
As for Allen and Battier, they're playing on a 3-peat seeking team. Do you know when Shaq started to mail in seasons? Right around the back-to-back/3peat timeframe. I don't think Allen and Battier will mail it in, but I do think that they'll be used less extensively during the season considering their age, to save their stamina for the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised to see them dip below the 2 3/game range too. So, just for consistency sake, let's go with 1.5 3s per player.
As for Mclemore, I wouldn't call him the incumbent starter just yet. There's no guarantee he gets minutes or produces. I wouldn't pencil him in for any more than 1 3 a game at this point.
Lawson will need to score more, so I'm going to bump him up to 1.5 3s a game.
That puts Fran at 7.5 3s a game. I haven't checked the competitive field to see where that lands him, but at about 25 3s per week (if he can play all of his guys), I would say that's about average or slightly above. Not top 5 though.
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