Caron Butler traded to Bucks for Ish Smith and Kratsov

[Thunder Muscle]

Middleton wasn't too excited about Caron's acquisition....this was tweeted the day after we got him.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Khris22m/status/373477869436944384[/tweet]

I can understand his disappointment, he probably felt he was in a position to get good minutes and now it became more of a question mark. At the same time I don't think he's entitled to anything. If he wants to get on the floor, work hard and force the coaches hand. I can't imagine Drew is going to keep him out if he is doing stuff to warrant playing time. Assuming Delfino won't be ready to go by camp, Middleton will get a shot to show something more than likely. If he plays well, they aren't just going to take him out of the lineup.

[emunney]

It's so Bucks to assume that if you have a young team in the 6th seed, that automatically means you should be buyers.

[worthlessBucks]

'We feel like our team is pretty young as it is. Acquiring ____ using our first round pick was a pretty easy decision as it enables us to remain playoff competitive short term while we simultaneously keep our young core players intact. We have a saying around the Cousins Center that Giannis is our '14 lottery pick. He's got so much potential...'

[DanoMac]

Monroe has really gotten bad in the last year. And Greg Jennings wants to talk about the Packers brainwashing people? I don't know what the hell the Bucks do to their employees to get them to talk/think this way.

[paulpressey25]

Monroe has really gotten bad in the last year. And Greg Jennings wants to talk about the Packers brainwashing people? I don't know what the hell the Bucks do to their employees to get them to talk/think this way.

What I find interesting about Nick and his Mentor Jim Paschke (think of that Seinfeld episode with the mentor) is that both tend to take a rather confrontational approach on these things. I realize working PR for the Bucks is a ridiculously challenging task. The front office doesn't give you much material to work with. But they both need to observe Ted Davis and try to adopt his style.

Ted has done a nice job the past 24-months navigating through us angry fans. He has been able to walk the line of acknowledging the front office sucks while at the same time supporting his employer.

I think the other person on in that conversation, Eric Buenning, does some side work for BrewHoop but could be wrong.

[Badgerlander]

I just happened to be tracking that twitter conversation when it happened and made a few comments, but Nick deleted a few of his tweets because he basically said people need to get over the Tobias trade because they acquired a better player.

[ReasonablySober]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

[Chapter29]

Middleton wasn't too excited about Caron's acquisition....this was tweeted the day after we got him.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Khris22m/status/373477869436944384[/tweet]

Well there goes the locker room. Guess its time to turnover 80% of the roster.

Trying to be patient? Why? Just beat out Delfino and/or Butler. That can't be too hard to do.

[CanadaBucks]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

You're not

[Nebula1]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

What's interesting to me is clearly the Milwaukee Bucks are next in line for the classic NBA "Arena Threat" and these guys have their jobs on the line. The more the Bucks do no long-term investment planning, the more the threat of moves closer.

Thanks for the great 25 years, Herb!

[CanadaBucks]

I think the other person on in that conversation, Eric Buenning, does some side work for BrewHoop but could be wrong.

This is correct, he does some of the articles on BH

[Nebula1]

Middleton wasn't too excited about Caron's acquisition....this was tweeted the day after we got him.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Khris22m/status/373477869436944384[/tweet]

Well there goes the locker room. Guess its time to turnover 80% of the roster.

Trying to be patient? Why? Just beat out Delfino and/or Butler. That can't be too hard to do.

Or don't sign either guy and invest that contract money elsewhere. I get your point, but I can understand Middleton's disappointment when he's got two favored veterans in front of him and "the future" behind him.

[jr lucosa]

As long as Caron isn't handed 30 minutes a night just for showing up Middleton should still get a chance to see the floor some, especially if Delfino is out for a long period. Definitely can understand his frustration though.

[DanoMac]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

It's understood that they're doing their jobs. As a Milwaukee Bucks employee, you can't bash the Bucks publicly. I think, and hope, that everyone understands that.

But they way they're handling these things (whether it be that Twitter conversation or interns here on RealGM) is very immature. They're trying to pick fights and almost challenging and questioning the fans' intelligence based on their responses.

It's not so much what they're doing, but the way they're doing it.

[Chapter29]

Well there goes the locker room. Guess its time to turnover 80% of the roster.

Trying to be patient? Why? Just beat out Delfino and/or Butler. That can't be too hard to do.

Or don't sign either guy and invest that contract money elsewhere. I get your point, but I can understand Middleton's disappointment when he's got two favored veterans in front of him and "the future" behind him.

I guess I don't know about that. I mean certainly I wouldn't want Delfino on the team as I honestly dislike him as a player.

I can see what they are doing to some degree. They want to be competitive and want to have young talent in the wings to take over. So you bring in guys that can sort of do the job in Delfino (puke) and Bulter (I don't mind this move) and hope that they effectively help the young kids take their job/role.

So hopefully its a win win. Hopefully for example Butler starts for us, mentors the kids and slowly gives way to them. If Middleton and/or Giannis outperform Delfino and/or Butler we are looking pretty good.

Now if Middleton and Giannis don't outperform them we are in a bit of trouble as we know that a Butler / Delfino SF position is one of the worst in the league. So why start there? Give yourself a chance to win and get better with hopefully younger more talented players.

[stellation]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

I'm with you, I really see no issue with it.

[blazza18]

I guess my only wish they be more realistic. Being competitive shouldn't be a teams number one goal. As a sports fan being ok with a team that has no goal in being a contender for a title is a bit depressing.

[CanadaBucks]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

It's understood that they're doing their jobs. As a Milwaukee Bucks employee, you can't bash the Bucks publicly. I think, and hope, that everyone understands that.

But they way they're handling these things (whether it be that Twitter conversation or interns here on RealGM) is very immature. They're trying to pick fights and almost challenging and questioning the fans' intelligence based on their responses.

It's not so much what they're doing, but the way they're doing it.

I think the thing here is whether you truly believe they are Bucks interns and from my viewpoint, if they are, they have not given any more than they have taken. But I don't think they are Bucks employees I just view them as fans with differing opinions than the majority of the board and difference of opinion is good right?

[JEIS]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care a lick about Milwaukee Bucks employees riding the company line and trying to be as positive as possible, even if their opinions are laughably indefensible?

It's understood that they're doing their jobs. As a Milwaukee Bucks employee, you can't bash the Bucks publicly. I think, and hope, that everyone understands that.

But they way they're handling these things (whether it be that Twitter conversation or interns here on RealGM) is very immature. They're trying to pick fights and almost challenging and questioning the fans' intelligence based on their responses.

It's not so much what they're doing, but the way they're doing it.

I think the thing here is whether you truly believe they are Bucks interns and from my viewpoint, if they are, they have not given any more than they have taken. But I don't think they are Bucks employees I just view them as fans with differing opinions than the majority of the board and difference of opinion is good right?[/quote]

A house divided against itself can not stand.

[paulpressey25]

difference of opinion is good right?

Difference of opinion from you, GoS, Jeremy, is fine. But planted stuff from an employee of a company is a different situation. We see it all the time across the internet. XYZ corporation tries to infiltrate web sites, product reviews, etc.

Additionally, the commentary really isn't so much on the fact they do it. If I worked for the team in sales and promotion, I'd talk them up also. The relevant connection is how clumsily they approach it. It just confirms how dysfunctional things are over there, with such dysfunction also present in how they manage the player personnel and coaching/GM situations.

Just as the front office could be better structured and operated, the PR could as well. As I suggested to Duke two months ago, have Jim Paschke post on here direct, have a couple players sign up for accounts, offer up some exclusive content and access to the board, etc. We'd be eating out of their hands.

Heck, just look at Jason Wilde. He puts up four or five complimentary posts on the Packers board and half the crew is starstruck. All the Bucks have to do is win 50 games or show they have a good plan and we'll all be back to talking up the team here.