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Redskins-Packers Postgame Thread 

Post#1 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:24 pm

I'm surprised no one started one of these. Boring blowouts tend to do that.

In any event, great game. Only troubling thing I saw were those three sacks of A-Rod early on where it looked like the O-Line was being over-powered. Then they made adjustments and all was good.

Special teams tackling this year appears to be pretty decent with the return game. Not sure what we do though with Ross. I still don't like him back there.

We played IMO the best team in the NFL last week and now one that doesn't appear to be very good at all (cue Steve Czaban tomorrow on Bob n Brian). Optimistic about the future.
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Post#2 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:27 pm

My biggest thing is I hope this represents a shift in philosophy with regards to playing with a big lead. The best way to control the clock and move the ball is with Rodgers passing, not running into fronts looking to stop the run.
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Post#3 » by whatthe_buck!? » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:28 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:My biggest thing is I hope this represents a shift in philosophy with regards to playing with a big lead. The best way to control the clock and move the ball is with Rodgers passing, not running into fronts looking to stop the run.

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Post#4 » by Balls2TheWalls » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:41 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:My biggest thing is I hope this represents a shift in philosophy with regards to playing with a big lead. The best way to control the clock and move the ball is with Rodgers passing, not running into fronts looking to stop the run.


All he needs to do is make play calls with all of our weapons on the field. When we brought in the double fullback set with Kuhn and Quarless, there was literally nothing we could do other than dives. Keep Kuhn off the field, make the other team respect the playmaking prowess of Cobb, Finley, Nelson, and Jones with Lacy in the backfield (once he is back). The key to being able to sustain long drives is forcing other teams to not be able to key on your formation. I don't mind running, as long as you have the cornerbacks and the safeties worried about covering our big play weapons instead of Quarless and Kuhn bringing people into the box.
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Post#5 » by LUKE23 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:52 pm

Impressed with Starks. Overall, if we get adequate protection nobody will stop this offense this year with the level Rodgers is currently at. It's going to come down to how the pass rush develops as the year progresses.
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Post#6 » by emunney » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:58 pm

Starks looked very patient. I thought he did a great job pressing the hole on a lot of those runs. Once he can stretch those legs out, he can really move. Hope he can stay healthy as he looks like a legit runner when he is.
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Post#7 » by Mags FTW » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:02 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I'm surprised no one started one of these. Boring blowouts tend to do that.

Just like the Bucks board, a lot of PG discussion finds its way into the actual game thread. When possible it would be cool if the game thread could get locked when it's over. It would funnel all of the posts into one thread.
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Post#8 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:05 am

emunney wrote:Starks looked very patient. I thought he did a great job pressing the hole on a lot of those runs. Once he can stretch those legs out, he can really move. Hope he can stay healthy as he looks like a legit runner when he is.


My only problem is that sometimes he is too busy dancing to take the yardage right in front of his face. His patience paid off today, and the offensive line definitely opened up some holes for him. Our receiver set left them with 6 in the box frequently. There were a couple of runs where he could have accelerated up field for more yardage.
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Post#9 » by LikeABosh » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:16 am

I'm gonna go ahead and say it: +40 touchdowns for Rodgers this year
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Post#10 » by BUCKnation » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:14 am

I feel bad for Lacy. He could have easily gone 150+ today and really upped his confidence and for selfish reasons, I have him on my fantasy team he will likely be a huge reason for me losing. Happy Starks had a big day though.

Also, House was a beast today. He and Bush on special teams is going to be fun to watch this year.

Rodgers. I don't have to say anything there.

Finley was very impressive as well. Made some nice grabs and his YAC made people pay.

Still had some Safety trouble this week, but the corners played better. I won't hold the prevent defense against them.

Looks like we will have to get used to slow starts from the line. After the first series they played pretty well again considering the Skins d-line is very solid with Kerrigan and Orakpo.
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Post#11 » by glenn » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:20 am

So, per PFT a league source is saying that Meriweather's hit on Starks was legal since he hit Starks with the side of his helmet and not the crown. Seems crazy to me. I thought helmet to helmet hits by defenders were always illegal.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/15/crown-of-helmet-rule-creates-mixed-bag-of-calls/

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Post#12 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:34 am

BUCKnation wrote:I feel bad for Lacy. He could have easily gone 150+ today and really upped his confidence and for selfish reasons, I have him on my fantasy team he will likely be a huge reason for me losing. Happy Starks had a big day though.

Basically this.

Would've loved to see what Lacy could've done to that defense.
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Post#13 » by Ill-yasova » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:54 am

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BUCKnation wrote:I feel bad for Lacy. He could have easily gone 150+ today and really upped his confidence and for selfish reasons, I have him on my fantasy team he will likely be a huge reason for me losing. Happy Starks had a big day though.

Basically this.

Would've loved to see what Lacy could've done to that defense.

Well at least if Starks can stay healthy we may be able to use these big backs to wear a team down. I'm gonna call them "Thunder and More Thunder".
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Post#14 » by emunney » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:34 am

glenn wrote:So, per PFT a league source is saying that Meriweather's hit on Starks was legal since he hit Starks with the side of his helmet and not the crown. Seems crazy to me. I thought helmet to helmet hits by defenders were always illegal.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/15/crown-of-helmet-rule-creates-mixed-bag-of-calls/

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That is completely ridiculous that they want to parse it that way. You can leave your feet, lead with your helmet with your facemask down and initiate helmet to helmet contact as long as you don't actually make contact on the other player's helmet with the crown of your helmet? Seriously? If that was the kind of hit the NFL is ok with, why was Meriweather unconscious on the grass afterward? Just felt sleepy?
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Post#15 » by emunney » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:40 am

Besides, it's not even true. The above picture is taken after impact when Meriweather's head has bounced to the side. Look at the moment before impact:

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This is exactly how you're not supposed to tackle.
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Post#16 » by glenn » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:58 am

emunney wrote:Besides, it's not even true. The above picture is taken after impact when Meriweather's head has bounced to the side. Look at the moment before impact:

This is exactly how you're not supposed to tackle.


When you watch the video it does, as you say, look like the crown of his helmet hits Starks, then snaps to the side.

My confusion, though, is that either way I thought it was illegal. The new rule, how I understood it, was to keep runners from lowering their head into defenders. The NFL's website has a PDF with its rules that says "if a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily" then it is unnecessary roughness.
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Post#17 » by Captain Erv » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:59 am

I'll only add that this was a comforting victory.
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Post#18 » by emunney » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:01 am

glenn wrote:
emunney wrote:Besides, it's not even true. The above picture is taken after impact when Meriweather's head has bounced to the side. Look at the moment before impact:

This is exactly how you're not supposed to tackle.


When you watch the video it does, as you say, look like the crown of his helmet hits Starks, then snaps to the side.

My confusion, though, is that either way I thought it was illegal. The new rule, how I understood it, was to keep runners from lowering their head into defenders. The NFL's website has a PDF with its rules that says "if a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily" then it is unnecessary roughness.


I didn't look up the rule, but thanks for doing it. I wonder if PFT just has a bad source.
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Post#19 » by trwi7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:45 pm

Yes I know QBR is garbage but holy **** is RGIII doing some major stat padding.

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Post#20 » by whatthe_buck!? » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:36 pm

Please stop quoting QBR stats. If we all ignore it maybe it will just go away lol... :-)

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