JV at EuroBasket 2013 is Done, Lithuania Gets Silver

Regulio · Post #2161 » by **Regulio** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:26 pm

We are playing with confidence and it shows. Really great game so far.

JV4MVP · Post #2162 » by **JV4MVP** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:27 pm

Steve Urkel wrote:
JV4MVP wrote:Great game by Pocius so far

That was a nice move

Duke Grad!!

Italy is making some really tough shots to keep this close.

D-Mo is still too sloppy for this level

Clementine9 · Post #2163 » by **Clementine9** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:30 pm

Whoa did they just call a travel on that drive? Looked like perfect footwork!

EDIT: Jonas is good at altering shots but he has to get his man to man figured out. He'll be solid once he does. The pick and roll has also been annoying but I'm not sure if that's more of a team issue than an individual issue.

Steve Urkel · Post #2164 » by **Steve Urkel** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:31 pm

Datome looks like the hipster that makes me coffee.

UcanUwill · Post #2165 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:33 pm

Coach id following Casey philosophy. I know JV and D-Mo struggles defensing perimeter, but damn, they at least could try to force the match up. They just matching up to DaTome, Gentile.

JV4MVP · Post #2166 » by **JV4MVP** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:35 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Coach id following Casey philosophy. I know JV and D-Mo struggles defensing perimeter, but damn, they at least could try to force the match up. They just matching up to DaTome, Gentile.

I cringe when D-Mo is in during these intense games. He gives sloppy handoff passes, has butterfingers and tends to foul a lot

VinBaker6 · Post #2167 » by **VinBaker6** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:38 pm

Bargs vs JV would've been epic

Steve Urkel · Post #2168 » by **Steve Urkel** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:38 pm

JV4MVP wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Coach id following Casey philosophy. I know JV and D-Mo struggles defensing perimeter, but damn, they at least could try to force the match up. They just matching up to DaTome, Gentile.

I cringe when D-Mo is in during these intense games. He gives sloppy handoff passes, has butterfingers and tends to foul a lot

Agreed, he's got skills/talent but he's not ready yet

JV4MVP · Post #2169 » by **JV4MVP** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:41 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:Bargs vs JV would've been epic

Bargs would've slowed down Italy's offense considerably. They look good running and gunning and I can't believe Italy is only down 1. They've made so many tough shots against a good defense. Andrea's style of play would drain the pace of the game.

UcanUwill · Post #2170 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:44 pm

JV4MVP wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Coach id following Casey philosophy. I know JV and D-Mo struggles defensing perimeter, but damn, they at least could try to force the match up. They just matching up to DaTome, Gentile.

I cringe when D-Mo is in during these intense games. He gives sloppy handoff passes, has butterfingers and tends to foul a lot

I dont like D-Mo, not gonna argue with that. But my point is, they only allow to have 1 true bigman right there, on Cusin. They just trying to match up yo Italy's 4 wing lineup. Kleiza played over 18 minutes...

They should force too bigmen and go to them on O. Maybe it would force Italy to take out of their main scorers out the game. Now, Lithuanian coach just straight up allows Italy to dictate the lineups.

Right now we have a team with huge size disadvantage, but they are allowed to actually turn it into advantage. Casey ball 101.

Post #2171 » by **pbj** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:46 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
JV4MVP wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Coach id following Casey philosophy. I know JV and D-Mo struggles defensing perimeter, but damn, they at least could try to force the match up. They just matching up to DaTome, Gentile.

I cringe when D-Mo is in during these intense games. He gives sloppy handoff passes, has butterfingers and tends to foul a lot

I dont like D-Mo, not gonna argue with that. But my point is, they only allow to have 1 true bigman right there, on Cusin. They just trying to match up yo Italy's 4 wing lineup. Kleiza played over 18 minutes...

They should force too bigmen and go to them on O. Maybe it would force Italy to take out of their main scorers out the game. Now, Lithuanian coach just straight up allows Italy to dictate the lineups.

The thing is I wouldn't trust young bigs to take advantage of mismatches like that.. they more likely to bulldoze the defender and turnover the ball than they are to actually muscle them patiently for an easy bucket, or pass it out when the defense overreacts.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #2172 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Lithuania did well by going inside early. I agree that they overplayed Kleiza. He was hot garbage by the end of the 2nd quarter.

JV4MVP · Post #2173 » by **JV4MVP** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:50 pm

UcanUwill wrote: I dont like D-Mo, not gonna argue with that. But my point is, they only allow to have 1 true bigman right there, on Cusin. They just trying to match up yo Italy's 4 wing lineup. Kleiza played over 18 minutes...

They should force too bigmen and go to them on O. Maybe it would force Italy to take out of their main scorers out the game. Now, Lithuanian coach just straight up allows Italy to dictate the lineups.

Right now we have a team with huge size disadvantage, but they are allowed to actually turn it into advantage. Casey ball 101.

I'd like to see JV and Lav play together. Not sure if the coach is wiling to experiment at this stage though. I can see one team go on a run and the game would be sealed. Risky if you haven't tried this earlier in the tournament.

JV and D-Mo played together before but mostly against teams of Latvia's level.

Clementine9 · Post #2174 » by **Clementine9** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Can Cusin shoot long range?

UcanUwill · Post #2175 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:51 pm

pbj wrote:
The thing is I wouldn't trust young bigs to take advantage of mismatches like that.. they more likely to bulldoze the defender and turnover the ball than they are to actually muscle them patiently for an easy bucket, or pass it out when the defense overreacts.

Doesn't have to be young guys. Could Be Jonas and D. Lavrinovic. I want to see tham at least try it, an underdog team with disadvantages should not dictate the lineups. Lithuanian's aren't even trying to use their big guns.

BLKMASS · Post #2176 » by **BLKMASS** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:58 pm

what's luke ridnour doing playing for lithuania :lol:

MoMan24 · Post #2177 » by **MoMan24** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:03 pm

Where are you guys watching the game, the link on the first page did not help and is in Lithuanian.

blocked · Post #2178 » by **blocked** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:05 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
pbj wrote:
The thing is I wouldn't trust young bigs to take advantage of mismatches like that.. they more likely to bulldoze the defender and turnover the ball than they are to actually muscle them patiently for an easy bucket, or pass it out when the defense overreacts.

Doesn't have to be young guys. Could Be Jonas and D. Lavrinovic. I want to see tham at least try it, an underdog team with disadvantages should not dictate the lineups. Lithuanian's aren't even trying to use their big guns.

You must be watching some different game... Italian defense makes it impossible to play the youngsters that way.

VinBaker6 · Post #2179 » by **VinBaker6** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:05 pm

JV4MVP wrote:
VinBaker6 wrote:Bargs vs JV would've been epic

Bargs would've slowed down Italy's offense considerably. They look good running and gunning and I can't believe Italy is only down 1. They've made so many tough shots against a good defense. Andrea's style of play would drain the pace of the game.

Yea that makes sense. Bargs is such a black hole. How's JoVa doing?

Clementine9 · Post #2180 » by **Clementine9** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:05 pm

MoMan24 wrote:Where are you guys watching the game, the link on the first page did not help and is in Lithuanian.

Check your private messages.