Bobcats Preseason/Training Camp

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:02 pm

Post news, articles, thoughts, pics, videos

Post #2 » by **fatlever** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:03 pm

lots of pics and videos posted on bobcats.com this week of guys at the arena practicing.

here's one pick that made me cringe

Post #3 » by **fatlever** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:07 pm

the rest of the pics here
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/gallery/cats ... -14-season

i didnt see hendo or al jeff in any of the pics, but looks like most everyone else is there, playing.

Fred Williamson · Post #4 » by **Fred Williamson** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:09 pm

looks like our shooting coaches are still in offseason

KingExecutive · Post #5 » by **KingExecutive** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:54 pm

fatlever wrote:lots of pics and videos posted on bobcats.com this week of guys at the arena practicing.

here's one pick that made me cringe

Yikes. His shooting hand is pointing away from the basket!

Liver_Pooty · Post #6 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:33 pm

fatlever wrote:the rest of the pics here
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/gallery/cats ... -14-season

i didnt see hendo or al jeff in any of the pics, but looks like most everyone else is there, playing.

Everyone is there from what I've seen. Saw interview with Jefferson couple days ago and pics with Henderson. Good sign.

countryboi · Post #7 » by **countryboi** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:27 am

MKG shot is still a work in progress I see...his hand placement is awful though

Liver_Pooty · Post #8 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:42 am

countryboi wrote:MKG shot is still a work in progress I see...his hand placement is awful though

Great elevation though. His shot is literally a 3 year project. Don't go doing something tens of thousands of times someone's entire life to having a nice shot. His jumper is on par with Biyombo catching a pass and making a layup. Which is saddening considering that id put them both in the top 40 athletically in the NBA.

Radu_Hornets · Post #9 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:19 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:the rest of the pics here
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/gallery/cats ... -14-season

i didnt see hendo or al jeff in any of the pics, but looks like most everyone else is there, playing.

Everyone is there from what I've seen. Saw interview with Jefferson couple days ago and pics with Henderson. Good sign.

Yeah, hendo is right here, shaved !

amcoolio · Post #10 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:38 pm

He looks like Kobay Bryant

Glad its coming up already. NFL season wasted with the Panthers once again a massive disappointment

Post #11 » by **fatlever** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:13 pm

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... jyqoH-t_Fx

lots of stuff here. too much to pick and choose for quotes.

Liver_Pooty · Post #12 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:13 pm

fatlever wrote:http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/09/20/4328890/coach-steve-clifford-bobcats-team.html#.UjyqoH-t_Fx

lots of stuff here. too much to pick and choose for quotes.

He seems to be extremely high on Zeller, and of course you have Taylor and MKG working their butts off to get ready for the season. It appears as if there is going to be a battle over who the starting PF is opening night. Up to Zeller, McRoberts, or perhaps even Biyombo. Guess it just depends on preseason. Great interview from Bonnell.

Edit: Was hoping he would have some type of praise for Biyombo

amcoolio · Post #13 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:43 am

Zeller is going to be legit. Can't wait to watch him play.

Kinda surprised to see him say that about Taylor, "working his way to be a rotational player". I think he has our best chance to be a star. He was very aggressive wherever he played this offseason and looked like a dream starting 2 guard. Hopefully he gets to that potential in Charlotte and not for his 2nd team

Liver_Pooty · Post #14 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:50 am

amcoolio wrote:Zeller is going to be legit. Can't wait to watch him play.

Kinda surprised to see him say that about Taylor, "working his way to be a rotational player". I think he has our best chance to be a star. He was very aggressive wherever he played this offseason and looked like a dream starting 2 guard. Hopefully he gets to that potential in Charlotte and not for his 2nd team

Taylor reminds me of a poor mans Brandon Roy in his prime.

Snidely FC · Post #15 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:14 am

interested in his comment about rebounding. I mean, you could bring in players that know how to rebound. For instance, get rid of Haywood who was flat out useless last year and bring in a free agent like Shavlik Randolph who grabbed 25% of available rebounds when he was on the floor for BOS. Just an example.

Liver_Pooty · Post #16 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:57 am

Snidely FC wrote:interested in his comment about rebounding. I mean, you could bring in players that know how to rebound. For instance, get rid of Haywood who was flat out useless last year and bring in a free agent like Shavlik Randolph who grabbed 25% of available rebounds when he was on the floor for BOS. Just an example.

Rebounding should improve with Jefferson and Zeller. MKG is already an elite rebounder for his position

HornetJail · Post #17 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:59 am

amcoolio wrote:Kinda surprised to see him say that about Taylor, "working his way to be a rotational player". I think he has our best chance to be a star. He was very aggressive wherever he played this offseason and looked like a dream starting 2 guard. Hopefully he gets to that potential in Charlotte and not for his 2nd team

I don't know about that. He's a good role player and we can hope he turns into an athletic version of Jared Dudley, great three point shooter, smart and tenacious defender, good rebounder, but not a star. That's exactly the kind of guy I'd want on my bench playing 20-25 minutes a game. Let's not get carried away with the SL and Sweden performances. He's still got some ways to go to reach the level of being a great role player in the NBA.

Based on last season, I think it's warranted for Clifford to say that he has to work his way into the rotation. Unfortunately, that probably means more Ben Gordon, but as long as Taylor outplays Gordon, Taylor will get his share of minutes.

Snidely FC wrote:interested in his comment about rebounding. I mean, you could bring in players that know how to rebound. For instance, get rid of Haywood who was flat out useless last year and bring in a free agent like Shavlik Randolph who grabbed 25% of available rebounds when he was on the floor for BOS. Just an example.

When you're the only big man on a team's bench unit, getting 25% of all rebounds during garbage time doesn't mean much. Let's get an undrafted young guy instead of a 30-year-old Shavlik Randolph.

amcoolio · Post #18 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:08 am

I would say besides Kemba he's the least flawed player on the roster, but has the advantage because he has elite size/athleticism for the SG position. He can shoot, he can drive, he can play defense. He seems to be able to handle the ball and dribble in traffic. He is good in transition. His midrange game needs work obviously, but he's been working on that. There's no reason he can't be more than just "a role player", if he is as aggressive and wanting to take over the team as his like he did this season.

You hope he doesn't turn into a star? What kind of thinking is that?

The team he's on/competition doesn't matter that much. There are plenty of NBA players who look just as average playing in much lower competition because of the way they play. I don't think Ben Gordon would have looked as good as Taylor on the Sweedish national team or SL, for example. Same with Henderson. He would have been his same passive self and not been in control like Taylor was.

HornetJail · Post #19 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:22 am

amcoolio wrote:You hope he doesn't turn into a star? What kind of thinking is that?

I never said that. I would be absolutely thrilled if he became a star. I just don't know if he's ever going to be good enough to do so. Don't forget, the dude's already 24- he's not a 19-year-old just barely showing glimpses of crazy potential yet to come.

Liver_Pooty · Post #20 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:36 am

Sorry, but if you put a MOTIVATED, motivated being in caps for a reason... Gordon is a lot better than Taylor right now, as is Henderson. Taylor had a great SL, but come on now.... He's a rotation player for now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.