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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1361 » by DCZards » Sat Aug 3, 2013 6:25 pm

Ruzious wrote:And not to mention that Wall will often have a significant height advantage over his defender - which he can take advantage of receiving passes closer to the basket.


I think a poised, heady playmaker like Maynor is the perfect guy to free JW up to play some SG and get him the ball close to the basket. Lillard was able to expand his offensive game late last season thanks, in large part, to the presence of Maynor.

I know a lot of posters don't like the signing of Maynor, but I think folks are going to be surprised how good a fit he is.
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Post#1362 » by hands11 » Sat Aug 3, 2013 7:35 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I agree that's his best asset 20MI1V, but I would argue he's also a terrific finisher at the rim. Wall rolling to the hole is going to usually get fouled or score. It would be a nice wrinkle to get John points at the rim where he doesn't have to break his man down. Might help Wall get points late in games, when his jumper might not be reliable. As far as a pick and pop, no, I don't want Wall shooting mid range. I don't want him moving off the ball for jumpers (except possibly a corner three, which I am going to post in the Wall thread).

The context for Wall off the ball is more about an experiment with Beal...

I think it's good to try and improve Beal's handle. I think this is more about growing Beal's game and his ability to handle the ball and make plays on pick and roll. Bradley doesn't need to be one dimensional on offense. Wittman did say he wanted to see if Wall could handle moving off the ball. I don't think he's going to push it if doesn't work out too well. Randy said in the Wall press conference that he doesn't want Wall to think he has to change now that he's a max contract guy. I wouldn't worry about the off the ball experiment they're going to do.


That's it. Its pretty much about PLAYER DEVELOPMENT and options. Building out the play book. More plays that can get called in half court. Its about developing players and the offense as a whole.

Wall is working on his jumper more and extending it to 3 land. Corner 3s are a good place for him to start. Clearly part of what they would do with him offball. But we still need someone who can hit a 3 from the top of the key. Easier for a PG to be that person. And with him at the corner 3, Beal would be a good option to hit from the top of the key since he is a great shooter.

So if you want three player who can all hit 3s and you want Wall on the floor with his best chance to be the 3rd 3 shooter, a good way to start is Webster on one corner, Wall on the other and Beal up top. Thats one reason.

Post game. Wall is working on a post game this summer as well. That could get set up playing him off ball or they can clear a side and dribble down there. This is one way Wall can punish other PG who are good, but not as big as he is. Personally, I don't expect much of it but its good to have in your back pocket for the playoffs.

FOR BEAL. They want to develop his dribble drive skills. We know he can shoot. Thats the Ray Allen side. We know he can finish. Now he needs to be able to do that with the ball in his hand from the top of the key. Thats the Wade side.

This can be a very dynamic team with Wall, Beal, Webster and Nene. Keep in mind everything Nene brings. Great post passer. Great first step and power. If Nene can find that mid range shot again. LOOK OUT. Thats a shorter, stronger Gasol type. Then Okafor is just all bread and butter. Rebounds. Boxing out. Double Double Okafor. Work horse and can do pretty well from the open FT line shot also. Enough to keep teams honest.

That can be a dangerous line up. No nut cases. Everyone a team player. Shooting Driving. Power. Some youth. Some experience. And Wall and Beal have tons of upside. And keep in mind, Trevor A is a legit NBA player who produced in the playoffs. Other players may have more upside, but he has been there and done it. That's counts for a lot. I still see Trevor A as very valuable to this team.

Thats your core.

Everyone else is a role player or project with upside. Booker can rebound. We know that. Kevin S has a baby hook for post points. Maynor can run an offense and pass. Temple is a hybrid guard that is long and can play some PG or some SG and defend. Glen can shoot from outside. Ves is a long glue guy type that can run, scrap and pass. Then there is Singleton. Not really sure what his game is other defender and fouls to get used on strong SFs like LeBron and Melo. Doesn't feel like Singleton is going to make it much longer on the team. He is really running out of time. Something just doesn't seem to fit with him.

But the core 6 is what to focus on. When you think of other playoff teams, its rarely the 7-10 players that make you think they are a playoff team. Its the starters that make you think that. We have a great starting line up plus 1. And we have two young big prospects in Kevin S and Ves. This will be a good year for both to develop. Kevin in year 4. Ves coming into year 3. I think both will mature and show progress this year.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1363 » by popper » Sat Aug 3, 2013 7:39 pm

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Ruzious wrote:And not to mention that Wall will often have a significant height advantage over his defender - which he can take advantage of receiving passes closer to the basket.


I think a poised, heady playmaker like Maynor is the perfect guy to free JW up to play some SG and get him the ball close to the basket. Lillard was able to expand his offensive game late last season thanks, in large part, to the presence of Maynor.

I know a lot of posters don't like the signing of Maynor, but I think folks are going to be surprised how good a fit he is.


Agree. I think Maynor is going to be an outstanding backup for the Wizards. If we can somehow acquire a stretch 4 Maynor's value will leverage upward and change minds in the process. I do think Witt has to hold him accountable on defense though.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1364 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Aug 3, 2013 10:48 pm

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Ruzious wrote:And not to mention that Wall will often have a significant height advantage over his defender - which he can take advantage of receiving passes closer to the basket.


I think a poised, heady playmaker like Maynor is the perfect guy to free JW up to play some SG and get him the ball close to the basket. Lillard was able to expand his offensive game late last season thanks, in large part, to the presence of Maynor.

I know a lot of posters don't like the signing of Maynor, but I think folks are going to be surprised how good a fit he is.


I don't speak for all but I didn't like the rush to sign Maynor at the BAE. Seemed like they could have waited a while. In the end they might have had Blair at the BAE. I think Blair is better than Maynor. OTOH, I actually agree with you DCZ, that Maynor's going to be a good fit.

Here are some snippets from the debate about the Maynor signing from Truth About It:

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2013/07/the ... ebate.html

#1) Boy, that was quick, right?

Indeed. Ernie Grunfeld usually wags his tail looking up at the table, waiting for scraps.

Picking up the free agents that fall through the cracks is often a fair tactic to take when you’re looking for mid-roster free agent filler. There was no waiting to eat this time.

Not long into the early evening dusk of July 1, the first day NBA teams could contact free agents, reports started surfacing that Grunfeld had landed his target.


The Wizards are putting a fair amount of eggs in the Eric Maynor basket, and with some good reason. Except for defense.

Desperate for more offense off the bench, Washington is choosing that over defense when it comes to the use of their Bi-Annual Exception (BAE) to address Wall’s backup and their backcourt situation. Maynor wasn’t the best option out there—Beno Udrih and Darren Collison are both better offensive players—but Maynor was the most bang the Wizards could get for their BAE buck (just over $4 million for two seasons). Both Udrih and Collison will be looking for more money in the wake of an NBA free agency temporarily held hostage by Dwight Howard.


I think what most opposed to the Maynor signing don't like is his salary and the fact the Wizards used the BAE. Maynor can distribute the ball and I can see him playing a lot with Wall.

Hey, this is the Beal thread ... Maynor and Beal will see some court time together and I expect that will be a good pairing, too.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1365 » by hands11 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:43 pm

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“Everything has been good. My game has been improving. [I'm] putting the ball on the floor a lot more and my confidence is still sky high,” Beal said. “I’m ready for this year and I couldn’t be more excited with the team that we have. And hopefully, starting next week, we’ll have a good start chemistry wise and we’ll go from there.”

ESPN.com recently listed Beal as one of the five top candidates to have a breakout campaign next season, because he will be able to play with point guard John Wall for an entire season and build upon an encouraging stretch of play before he got hurt. When asked about the list, Beal nodded his head in agreement.

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BB is going to rock the house this year. He is going to have more dribble drive this year to go along with that sweet stroke.

If Wall can pick up where he left off last year and Beal expands on what he did, all the sudden the entire D has to gear up for those two, plus you have corner 3 shooters like Webster and Trevor A. That make things easier on everyone else.

Looking for a All Star quality year from Beal. That's a good sign when a player starts their career like that. And that why they added vets to the team. To make things easier on Wall and Beal.

Wizards should like about like GS did last year.
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Post#1366 » by Upper Decker » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:18 pm

1) Second year player coming off leg injury
2) Plays in Washington DC
3) Player has high expectations that he'll improve from his rookie year

I've seen this movie before and I didn't like it. I'm firmly in the camp of "Brad Beal needs to prove he's really worth something before getting excited".
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1367 » by hands11 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:05 pm

Upper Decker wrote:1) Second year player coming off leg injury
2) Plays in Washington DC
3) Player has high expectations that he'll improve from his rookie year

I've seen this movie before and I didn't like it. I'm firmly in the camp of "Brad Beal needs to prove he's really worth something before getting excited".


You mean like he did in Jan and Feb last year.

He already proved he is something to get excited about.
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Post#1368 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:12 pm

Upper Decker wrote:1) Second year player coming off leg injury
2) Plays in Washington DC
3) Player has high expectations that he'll improve from his rookie year

I've seen this movie before and I didn't like it. I'm firmly in the camp of "Brad Beal needs to prove he's really worth something before getting excited".



Beal already did some things that have me expecting nothing short of greatness.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... lits/2013/

If you look at his three point shooting in Jan/Feb/Mar what you see is 32-63, 14-33, and 15-28. :o

After the all star break, Beal shot .455 on threes alone. He averaged over 16.5, and 5.7 points and rebounds.

I haven't seen any players peak at 20. Beal is improving. He's going to be an all star, sooner than later IMO. He could end up BETTER than Wall.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

I assembled the list of players above by WS/48>.080, age 20 or less, and height 6'6" or less, with MP/G over 20 and games played over 50. The only 19 year olds on the list are Kobe, Kyrie Irving, and Bradley Beal.

Beal at 19 compares somewhat favorably to Harden at 20. Not as good but also a year younger. Beal is truly gifted at shooting threes and at playing very mistake-free basketball for a player his age. He's not a superstar but everything in his first year points to him becoming an all star, eventually. He's clearly several notches below Kobe and Chris Paul, but he's also comfortably in the midst of players who virtually all have made at least one all star team.

I think Wizards fans generally underestimate just how good Bradley Beal is for his age. Only a couple of players with gaudy stats at age 20 or less haven't panned out to be good players.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1369 » by DCZards » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:07 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Upper Decker wrote:1) Second year player coming off leg injury
2) Plays in Washington DC
3) Player has high expectations that he'll improve from his rookie year

I've seen this movie before and I didn't like it. I'm firmly in the camp of "Brad Beal needs to prove he's really worth something before getting excited".



I think Wizards fans generally underestimate just how good Bradley Beal is for his age. Only a couple of players with gaudy stats at age 20 or less haven't panned out to be good players.


Actually ccj, I think most Zard fans are well aware of how good Beal is. Upper Decker may be an exception. But, then again, I suspect Decker is playing a little devil's advocate.

As far as Beal turning out to be better than Wall, that would be a great problem to have. That would mean that the Zards would have a top 3-4 PG and a top 3-4 SG. That would make for a wonderful backcourt of the future.
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Post#1370 » by fugop » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:39 am

Tyreke Evans, Rodrigue Beaubois, Andris Biedrins. There are plenty of cases of guys not (yet) fulfilling early promise. Even Jeremy Lin, though he's a bit of an outlier.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1371 » by payitforward » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:39 am

DCZards wrote:As far as Beal turning out to be better than Wall, that would be a great problem to have. That would mean that the Zards would have a top 3-4 PG and a top 3-4 SG. That would make for a wonderful backcourt of the future.

John Wall had a very good stretch of play last Spring; no doubt about it. Would anyone not a Wizards fan call him "a top 3-4 PG" in the NBA? No, I really don't think so.

I'd call him a guy picked first in the draft who is entering his fourth season with a chance to finally start playing to that level, to his potential, and I hope he does.

And, if so, will that make him "a top 3-4 PG" in the NBA? Maybe and maybe not. But he'll be a very good player. Lets start there. So far he hasn't been that except for 2 months last Spring.
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Post#1372 » by DCZards » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:46 am

Payit, I wasn't suggesting that Wall is currently a top 3-4 PG....just predicting that he would become one.
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Post#1373 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:26 pm

fugop wrote:Tyreke Evans, Rodrigue Beaubois, Andris Biedrins. There are plenty of cases of guys not (yet) fulfilling early promise. Even Jeremy Lin, though he's a bit of an outlier.


fugop, Beaubois has had three surgeries in three separate NBA seasons. Two times for a broken foot and once for a broken hand. Injuries have played a huge part in him not achieving the success he did as a rookie.

Biedrins signed a huge deal after years playing for Don Nelson. He slumped with a different set of teammates and a different coach, after he got paid. From all I've read he doesn't care much about basketball and he might be heading for Celebrity Rehab some day. I wouldn't compare Biedrins to Beal in any way. If Beal fails to improve it won't be due to him chasing bad vices off the court like Biedrins appears to.

Evans is interesting. I looked at his highly successful rookie season and the failures afterward. I see a very clear case of a player who did not stick with what worked for him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ting/2010/

As a rookie the thing Evans did well was getting shots at the rim. He attempted 596 shots at the rim. As a result, Tyreke Evans had a good eFG%.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... sty01.html

The following season his eFG% took a huge hit. Two things occurred in 2010. Evans only played 57 games due to injury.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tyreke_evans/bio/
Missed 20 games due to plantar fasciitis, left foot (12/14/10, 2/15/11-3/23/11) ... Missed four games (1/9/11-1/12, 4/11/11) due to a sprained left ankle


Also in 2010, the Kings acquired a low post presence and high usage player, DeMarcus Cousins.

Here's what happened to Evans' shot selection the following season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ting/2011/

As a second-year player, Evans only took 287 shots at the rim. Less than half of what he attempted the season before. Worse, his shooting ratio of jumpers to layups went from less than one jumper for every layup to over two jumpers for every layup. Evans never has been a good shooter. But at least as a rookie he got to rim a lot and converted.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ting/2012/
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ting/2013/

The past two seasons, Evans has been slightly better but still takes far more jumpers and gets far less layups than he did as a rookie.

Beal has a huge advantage over Evans. Beal can shoot. He also has a lot more stability playing next to John Wall.

I think Beal is a safe bet to substantially improve, provided he can stay healthy.
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Post#1374 » by stevemcqueen1 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:40 pm

DCZards wrote:Actually ccj, I think most Zard fans are well aware of how good Beal is. Upper Decker may be an exception. But, then again, I suspect Decker is playing a little devil's advocate.

As far as Beal turning out to be better than Wall, that would be a great problem to have. That would mean that the Zards would have a top 3-4 PG and a top 3-4 SG. That would make for a wonderful backcourt of the future.


Really enjoyed reading this exchange between you guys. I've been talking Redskins the past few weeks, on a different forum, and it's refreshing to come back to RealGM and read the conversations about BBall because the level of discourse is so much higher.

My thoughts about the Beal > Wall? question is that it's unlikely Beal will actually end up being a better player than Wall. Beal is a very good athlete, but he's not the dynamo that Wall is. Wall checks off pretty much every box on athleticism chart with elite and truly the sky is the limit for him. Beal will never have the same creative ability.

BUT, I think we're most likely to see a synergistic situation where it doesn't really make sense to isolate one player from the other to determine who is better because their performances will rely on each other. They're in a rare situation where their talents almost perfectly compliment each other. Think about those good mid decade Pistons teams or this Spurs team. Whose the best player? Hard to pinpoint. At points Duncan, at points Manu, and now it's probably Parker, but maybe still Duncan.

I also think that Beal will still probably end up being a top 3-4 SG whether or not he ends up being as good as Wall. SG is pretty weak, and Beal definitely looked like the best SG in the league under 23 (Harden's age) last season. A couple years from now, you won't have Wade or Kobe or Allen or Manu or even Joe Johnson. You will have Harden as the top dog. Then you'll have Beal. Then who else? Really no challengers so far until we see how guys like Oladipo and McLemore turn out. The league-wide situation at SG is ugly.
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Post#1375 » by nuposse04 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:38 am

Yeah, I'm actually fairly confident in that Beal has a chance at being the 2nd best SG by default simply because the SG position is lacking some **** luster. I think McLemore will end up being a good player in a couple seasons but has to put in quite a bit of work...plus being on a team that is arguably more dysfunctional then the Wiz is saying something...I'm not really a believer in Oladipo, something about his game just makes me think he'll be easier to defend, I shouldn't probably think that since his advanced stats are so gaudy but I don't think a rich man's Bradley is going to be a contender for 2nd best SG.

I think a better question is, it conceivable we could have two top 10 guards on our hands of the future.

2-3 years from now it could look like (no order):

Rose
Westbrook
Irving
Wall
Curry
Harden
CP3(Although I think he should be tailing off)
Deron Williams
Beal?

Ahh can't wait for the season to start.
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Post#1376 » by hands11 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:44 am

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DCZards wrote:Actually ccj, I think most Zard fans are well aware of how good Beal is. Upper Decker may be an exception. But, then again, I suspect Decker is playing a little devil's advocate.

As far as Beal turning out to be better than Wall, that would be a great problem to have. That would mean that the Zards would have a top 3-4 PG and a top 3-4 SG. That would make for a wonderful backcourt of the future.


Really enjoyed reading this exchange between you guys. I've been talking Redskins the past few weeks, on a different forum, and it's refreshing to come back to RealGM and read the conversations about BBall because the level of discourse is so much higher.

My thoughts about the Beal > Wall? question is that it's unlikely Beal will actually end up being a better player than Wall. Beal is a very good athlete, but he's not the dynamo that Wall is. Wall checks off pretty much every box on athleticism chart with elite and truly the sky is the limit for him. Beal will never have the same creative ability.

BUT, I think we're most likely to see a synergistic situation where it doesn't really make sense to isolate one player from the other to determine who is better because their performances will rely on each other. They're in a rare situation where their talents almost perfectly compliment each other. Think about those good mid decade Pistons teams or this Spurs team. Whose the best player? Hard to pinpoint. At points Duncan, at points Manu, and now it's probably Parker, but maybe still Duncan.

I also think that Beal will still probably end up being a top 3-4 SG whether or not he ends up being as good as Wall. SG is pretty weak, and Beal definitely looked like the best SG in the league under 23 (Harden's age) last season. A couple years from now, you won't have Wade or Kobe or Allen or Manu or even Joe Johnson. You will have Harden as the top dog. Then you'll have Beal. Then who else? Really no challengers so far until we see how guys like Oladipo and McLemore turn out. The league-wide situation at SG is ugly.


Having Wall coming into his 4th year at PG as the #1 pick and looking to break out while he is a SG at #3 coming into his 2nd year is kind of idea for Beal. That's going to allow his game to marinate. Specially with vets like Nene, Webster, Trevor A and AH around him. He doesn't have to be the top dog but he will play like one at time during the year. He can just keep working on his game which I fully expect him to do. And when he shines on any given night, he is going to shine in a legit way because it will be with other good players around him, not on a team of maybe some day players.

Beal is driving to be great, but he has the UTR type personality that makes the outside observer under rate him. Every year he will add something and by year 3 is will be playing like a seasoned vet.

I expect him to produce a lot this year and do it very efficiently. Wall and Beal is going to be an amazing pairing for years and most of my warm fuzzes for this franchise is based on that. They are both going to be very good and they are both very likable.

And Wall is a pass first PG. There are going to be other starts that want to come play with those two. Thats what has me talking about players like Dirk and KD. So to me, it looks like they should have plenty of opportunities to build a 3 star team with those two. And that what makes the moves they made around them make sense, because he helps there get to mature stardom quicker. That when you go for another stud closer to their age like KD.

Thats why I wouldn't mind them keeping vet like Nene and Okafor around and why I wouldn't mind them going after a past his peak Dirk for two year. They need to gain that legit game knowledge that you only gain by challenging in playoff games. Dirk could do that for two years vs going after a Monroe who doesn't have that win it all star crunch time experience to get it done.
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Post#1377 » by hands11 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:49 am

nuposse04 wrote:Yeah, I'm actually fairly confident in that Beal has a chance at being the 2nd best SG by default simply because the SG position is lacking some **** luster. I think McLemore will end up being a good player in a couple seasons but has to put in quite a bit of work...plus being on a team that is arguably more dysfunctional then the Wiz is saying something...I'm not really a believer in Oladipo, something about his game just makes me think he'll be easier to defend, I shouldn't probably think that since his advanced stats are so gaudy but I don't think a rich man's Bradley is going to be a contender for 2nd best SG.

I think a better question is, it conceivable we could have two top 10 guards on our hands of the future.

2-3 years from now it could look like (no order):

Rose
Westbrook
Irving
Wall
Curry
Harden
CP3(Although I think he should be tailing off)
Deron Williams
Beal?

Ahh can't wait for the season to start.


I think VO is going to be really good and I expect him to show some of it in his first year. I really like Beal but I wouldn't take anything away from VO in saying that. Specially since they already gave him some PG minutes in grooming him. I think VO is going to be an AS. I expect him to be on that list.
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Post#1378 » by nuposse04 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:08 am

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nuposse04 wrote:Yeah, I'm actually fairly confident in that Beal has a chance at being the 2nd best SG by default simply because the SG position is lacking some **** luster. I think McLemore will end up being a good player in a couple seasons but has to put in quite a bit of work...plus being on a team that is arguably more dysfunctional then the Wiz is saying something...I'm not really a believer in Oladipo, something about his game just makes me think he'll be easier to defend, I shouldn't probably think that since his advanced stats are so gaudy but I don't think a rich man's Bradley is going to be a contender for 2nd best SG.

I think a better question is, it conceivable we could have two top 10 guards on our hands of the future.

2-3 years from now it could look like (no order):

Rose
Westbrook
Irving
Wall
Curry
Harden
CP3(Although I think he should be tailing off)
Deron Williams
Beal?

Ahh can't wait for the season to start.


I think VO is going to be really good and I expect him to show some of it in his first year. I really like Beal but I wouldn't take anything away from VO in saying that. Specially since they already gave him some PG minutes in grooming him. I think VO is going to be an AS. I expect him to be on that list.


I'd expect him to show SOMETHING early on, wasn't he at Indiana for 3 years? I imagine he's already quite developed, not to the degree lillard is, but he should have a leg up on most other rookies from his class in adapting quicker cause he's already filled out some and just has more experience. The one thing he does have that is unteachable is a good first step. I'm not a fan of his shooting motion but other people have had worse. For people who watched him at Indiana more than myself, can they comment on whether the majority of his 3s were uncontested or not? He shot very well from 3 pt land but so did Derrick Williams.
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Post#1379 » by hands11 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:02 am

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nuposse04 wrote:Yeah, I'm actually fairly confident in that Beal has a chance at being the 2nd best SG by default simply because the SG position is lacking some **** luster. I think McLemore will end up being a good player in a couple seasons but has to put in quite a bit of work...plus being on a team that is arguably more dysfunctional then the Wiz is saying something...I'm not really a believer in Oladipo, something about his game just makes me think he'll be easier to defend, I shouldn't probably think that since his advanced stats are so gaudy but I don't think a rich man's Bradley is going to be a contender for 2nd best SG.

I think a better question is, it conceivable we could have two top 10 guards on our hands of the future.

2-3 years from now it could look like (no order):

Rose
Westbrook
Irving
Wall
Curry
Harden
CP3(Although I think he should be tailing off)
Deron Williams
Beal?

Ahh can't wait for the season to start.


I think VO is going to be really good and I expect him to show some of it in his first year. I really like Beal but I wouldn't take anything away from VO in saying that. Specially since they already gave him some PG minutes in grooming him. I think VO is going to be an AS. I expect him to be on that list.


I'd expect him to show SOMETHING early on, wasn't he at Indiana for 3 years? I imagine he's already quite developed, not to the degree lillard is, but he should have a leg up on most other rookies from his class in adapting quicker cause he's already filled out some and just has more experience. The one thing he does have that is unteachable is a good first step. I'm not a fan of his shooting motion but other people have had worse. For people who watched him at Indiana more than myself, can they comment on whether the majority of his 3s were uncontested or not? He shot very well from 3 pt land but so did Derrick Williams.


And he is amazingly confident while still humble and hard working. Actually kind of like Beal with more swag.

I saw his shooting during SL and he has already started to open it up. Stroke looked wet and confident. Playing him a PG was a really smart move to get him ball handling experience.

He is going to have a green light with the Magic. I plan on watching their games when I can. Real excited to see VO on the court.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#1380 » by hands11 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:06 am

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... /index.jsp


How cool was that. Beal making a Ray Allen and D Wade reference. I like it. That he is a blend of talents from both is something some of us have said we saw in him.

So two new nicknames came to mind.

The young man is so relaxed and cool. So one would be Cue or Cool, because he is always cool as a cucumber.

Other could be School. Because he is too cool for school. And hopefully he is schooling players this year.

Also, B Smooth

I really like this young man.

And in case you're reading Casey.. Heyyyyaayyy. That's one sexy women.

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