Heat Finalizing Extension With SPO

HEATVols865 · Post #21 » by **HEATVols865** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:56 pm

The guy has won, period.
But, I'm not a fan. I think the Heat would play much better with a less stubborn coach.
His strategy is ISO plays and that's it. We don't have an offensive strategy and our D is average to say the least.
But I don't see anyone out there that would be a better fit unfortunately.
Bosh is underutilized thanks to Spo alone.
As someone pointed out he has improved every year and I hope he does again this year but you can't deny he was outcoached by Pop and the Indy guy last season in the playoffs. We won because LeBron said f it and went into Cleveland mode and because Ray Allen is clutch as hell.

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John Thomas · Post #22 » by **John Thomas** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:39 pm

Everyone in this organization is moving up in the world.

Post #23 » by **BFRESH44** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:59 pm

QueenOfFairies wrote:His strategy is ISO plays and that's it. We don't have an offensive strategy and our D is average to say the least.

This is simply not true. At all.

Rock Hardy · Post #24 » by **Rock Hardy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:45 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:top 3 coach in the league

This. One of the best in the league. Nice to see a lot of people coming to this realization. It's also great to have the continuity for the future. I'd love for this franchise to have a "landmark" coach like Pop. Someone who coaches the team through decades of success like he's done. Spo's only the 3rd coach since Pat took over in '95, and only the 6th in franchise history. Pretty impressive for the team, as a whole, that we don't have a lot of coaching churn like many other franchises.

Post #25 » by **Flash3** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:58 pm

Great, great move to lock him up long term.

And I love the naysayers saying he's still got flaws. I mean, so does Popovich, one of the league's BEST coaches, ever. I mean, just look at some of the rotations he pulled in last year's Finals alone - playing LeBron 1-1 w/o doubling at times, or taking out Duncan when he shouldn't have.

So for those who are still whining, yes, you guys are WHINING - quit it!

Post #26 » by **Flash3** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:59 pm

QueenOfFairies wrote:The guy has won, period.
But, I'm not a fan. I think the Heat would play much better with a less stubborn coach.
His strategy is ISO plays and that's it. We don't have an offensive strategy and our D is average to say the least.
But I don't see anyone out there that would be a better fit unfortunately.
Bosh is underutilized thanks to Spo alone.
As someone pointed out he has improved every year and I hope he does again this year but you can't deny he was outcoached by Pop and the Indy guy last season in the playoffs. We won because LeBron said f it and went into Cleveland mode and because Ray Allen is clutch as hell.

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I am assuming you haven't watched a game the past few years where we are ranked tops in the defensive and offensive categories - or are you just making up non-sense to discredit Spoesltra? I take it's the latter.

Post #27 » by **heat4life** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:03 pm

QueenOfFairies wrote:The guy has won, period.
But, I'm not a fan. I think the Heat would play much better with a less stubborn coach.
His strategy is ISO plays and that's it. We don't have an offensive strategy and our D is average to say the least.
But I don't see anyone out there that would be a better fit unfortunately.
Bosh is underutilized thanks to Spo alone.
As someone pointed out he has improved every year and I hope he does again this year but you can't deny he was outcoached by Pop and the Indy guy last season in the playoffs. We won because LeBron said f it and went into Cleveland mode and because Ray Allen is clutch as hell.

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So the Heat won a championship and Spo got out-coached? Makes no sense.

Game plans have nothing to do with the Heat going 7 games vs Indy and SA. If anything, Spo deserves credit for adjusting on each series considering Wade's health which IMO was more indicative of why we went the distance on the last two rounds.

I get that people have a personal dislike for Spoelstra and that he will always get doubted even after 3 or 4 championships. He is not perfect and IMO he is not above criticism for some of his decisions but the guy has done nothing but to win since he became Head Coach, he plays up to the talent on his roster and deserves respect from our fan base.

He is not Pat Riley and he is not trying to be Pat Riley. He does his own thing. Innovates his own offense, his own rotations, all based on the talent at hand. LeBron, Wade and Bosh, who spend much more time with him than we do, respect him and trust him as a coach. Why can some of us fans do the same?

Heatin4 · Post #28 » by **Heatin4** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:25 pm

John Thomas wrote:Everyone in this organization is moving up in the world.

This is the organization of True Prosperity not the cesspool of collective waste accumulated over the years seen in other teams. Heat truly get work done around here. Not waiting on basketball "Gods" to do their work while purposefully tanking which could take eons to recover into a good team but instead laying the foundation of success through the immaculate planning and execution of Emperor Riley. IRWT.

Heatin4 · Post #29 » by **Heatin4** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:27 pm

Flash3 wrote:Great, great move to lock him up long term.

And I love the naysayers saying he's still got flaws. I mean, so does Popovich, one of the league's BEST coaches, ever. I mean, just look at some of the rotations he pulled in last year's Finals alone - playing LeBron 1-1 w/o doubling at times, or taking out Duncan when he shouldn't have.

So for those who are still whining, yes, you guys are WHINING - quit it!

You know what , Spo is undefeated against Pop in the Finals. Has a Record of 1-0 against one of the top coaches of all time. Top 5 possibly. And he just waxed him in 7 games. In Spo We Trust.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #30 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:54 pm

Well deserved. He's definitely a top 5 coach in the game today. He gets little credit but he's definitely been instrumental in this run we've been on. Still has room for improvement but you can't argue with production. Phil-ipino Jackson 4 Prez!!!!

GetItDone · Post #31 » by **GetItDone** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:12 pm

Why so much hate for him by many? (Not a Heat fan, but just sayin')

Phil gets Jordan/Kobe/Shaq and gets ton of credit.

Pop gets best PF of all time

Spo gets LeBron, injury riddled Wade (well last season), Bosh underperforming and gets no credit.

I think Spo is great. Good move. I love him as a defensive coach. Remember, Bosh was never known as a good defender, but in MIA he's improved a lot.

Post #32 » by **heat4life** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:38 pm

I know a lot of people outside of Heat fans appreciate Spo as a coach and would trade coaches in a heartbeat for their teams.
Some Heat fans just don't appreciate. The funny thing is that I have yet to hear a realistic name of a coach that would be better than Spo in Miami...

With that being said.... I love this picture... Chase the 'chip Spo!

DivineFury · Post #33 » by **DivineFury** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:36 pm

heat4life wrote:I know a lot of people outside of Heat fans appreciate Spo as a coach and would trade coaches in a heartbeat for their teams.
Some Heat fans just don't appreciate. The funny thing is that I have yet to hear a realistic name of a coach that would be better than Spo in Miami...

With that being said.... I love this picture... Chase the 'chip Spo!

You also have the fans who appreciated him before Lebron came over and the rings. He is a solid coach.

Sgt P · Post #34 » by **Sgt P** » Tue Oct 1, 2013 5:48 pm

While catching up on media day articles. I came across a comment on SPO, showing him love.

Here is the http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1793211-is-erik-spoelstra-the-right-coach-to-keep-lebron-james-with-heat-long-term. Note not the article but a comment by dennis mitchell

dennis mitchell wrote:James always had the ability to play EVERY position on the court. But no other coach had the ingenuity to design a system to extract ALL of his talents without overwhelming him. Spoelstra has done that.

Spo also recognized that he had a SG that could, not only play point guard. But block 7 footers and guard any player from 5'8 - 6'9. So he designed a system where his GUARD protects the basket....unheard of in NBA history.

Spo recognized that he had thee most versatile power forward in the NBA. So he designed a system where he plays EVERYWHERE on the court (something no other PF has the skill set to do). Chris Bosh's ability to shoot inside & out, quickness off the dribble, tremendous agility & athleticism & length on pick & rolls (he gave Tony Parker & James Harden fits in the Finals the last 2 years), create a puzzle for the Heat teams can't solve.

James and wade's superhuman quickness, anticipation, & basketball IQ, make them 2 of the best "help defenders" in the Game's history (on par with the legendary Jordan & Pippen in that regard). So he designed a system where they are both allowed to freelance, and be disciplined at the same time. They both often make steals and deflections on the far ends of the court during the same possession. Making the Heat seem as if they have 6 or 7 men on the court at the same time. Wade has contested shots in the paint, and (in the blink of an eye) sprinted out to the 3-point line to contest or even block shots.

On the final play of Game 6 in the Finals. Chris Bosh not only caught up to the crosscourt pass to Danny Green, but actually BLOCKED the shot!? Few ,if any, PF's in the NBA could cover that kind of ground.

Gregg Popovich and Frank Vogel, and Doc Rivers routinely state that the Heat present a dilemma no other team can match. Spo's players always had this unique ability. But no other coach was clever enough to capitalize on their "hybridness". Why be "conventional", when you have unconventional players? So Spo designed a system exclusive to his players' ability; where they are practically in 2 places at once. A system that only HIS DISTINCTIVE TEAM COULD PLAY. When Ginobli turned the ball over on that last play in Game 7, Bosh and James instinctively switched (actually BEFORE Ginobli finished his move) on a play that would've been open against almost any other team; completely stunning Ginobli. All women will tell you: "it's one thing to have the equipment...but it's another TO KNOW HOW to use it!"

Spo also realized that despite James' incredible talent. He will always struggle playing "off the ball" (he's much better than he use to be). whereas Wade, though better with the ball in his hands, can be effective off the ball. (he is now one of the NBA's most lethal "backcutters"). Designing a system, with James as a clear number 1 option, maximizes his team's output. They go from a great team...to a 'team for the ages". It's easy to say NOW that anybody would have made these moves ,given the players, that Spo has made. But the fact of the matter is, NO ONE did before him. James never went "down low" until he came to South Beach.

Where Spo ranks as a coach is debatable. But his place as THEE architect of a spectacular system ,tailor made for spectacular players, is not. He has introduced the NBA to perhaps a new era that can not be denied.

I think the commenter went a bit over but, SPO is a mad scientist up in the lab. Well deserved contract SPO.

dolphinatik · Post #35 » by **dolphinatik** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 3:12 pm

he earned it. Really thought he turned some corners last year

LikeABosh · Post #36 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 3:16 pm

No one but the Oregon Ducks can take Spo from us now. **** yeah!

LikeABosh · Post #37 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 3:19 pm

GetItDone wrote:Why so much hate for him by many? (Not a Heat fan, but just sayin')

Phil gets Jordan/Kobe/Shaq and gets ton of credit.

Pop gets best PF of all time

Spo gets LeBron, injury riddled Wade (well last season), Bosh underperforming and gets no credit.

I think Spo is great. Good move. I love him as a defensive coach. Remember, Bosh was never known as a good defender, but in MIA he's improved a lot.

Fans will always hate on their team's coach. Even Spurs fans and Bulls fans are pissed at their coaches from time to time and Thibs/Pop are the 2 best coaches in the league

Post #38 » by **LEIF** » Fri Oct 4, 2013 2:44 am

have to repost what I said in the other front office moves thread recently:

This may come as a surprise to most but I think that eventually Spo could do what Riley did for us early on as a coach/person who makes the ultimate call on basketball decisions. He will have a ton of help with his staff and the stability of the Arison family and Andy crunching numbers. He will have Riley as a consultant (probably Coach K too with the Arison connection) His background with scouting talent and also his ability to relate to players makes him a good/smart recruiter. He is getting cosigned by pretty much anybody who holds weight in basketball. I think NArison, Spoelstra, Ellisberg, Craig is the next MArison, Riley, Ellisberg, Spoelstra 4some in the FO leadership roles long term. barring something really unforeseen

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Flash4thewin · Post #39 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 2:53 pm

Spo has gotten better but still has a way to go. There are times you just cant help but wonder what hes doing then at other times it all clicks. Spo is someone who grew into the job yes if we had a more seasoned coach we would be on our way to a 4 peat but we have what we have so might as well enjoy the ride. Depending on how healthy our additions are we should see more creative line ups this season with Oden and maybe Beasley this season. Either way we should have fun this up coming season

insfo · Post #40 » by **insfo** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 5:37 pm

I hate it when I give into the temptation of clicking on the "Display this post" of some posters

Anyway, on topic ... good for Spo. Hot job/salary/role/organization/girlfriend .. dude got it all!