Mirza Teletovic

[Chamilitary Man]

He's not really a big.
He's a stretch forward meant to come off the bench and provide offense.

He's strictly a stretch 4. He's incapable of playing SF and too small to play C.

Not so sure. If Novak, Turk, Peja and others have played SF he might be able to in the right match up.

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

[DarkXaero]

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

Skill wise, Teletovic demolishes Novak and it's not even close. Novak is strictly a 3 pt shooter who only excels at shooting wide open 3s. Teletovic over his career has been a high volume 3 pt shooter who can make contested 3s and has ability to put the ball on the floor to create his own shot. He's also a far better passer and can play in the low post a bit.

[Idee Mixed]

I hope Kidd uses AK and MT3 together a lot.

That is the best situation for MT3 to succeed.

On Offense, MT3 plays the SF role and AK plays PF. On Defense, MT3 TRIES to defend the PF while AK defends the quicker SF.

With AK and MT3 at SF/PF, you can play KG, Lopez or Blatche at Center and will NOT have spacing issues.

AK and Evans will create the same issues as Wallace and Evans. AK needs room in the paint to work. Evans needs to camp in the paint to be affective. MT3 can just pull whoever is guarding him away from the paint.

[Chamilitary Man]

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

Skill wise, Teletovic demolishes Novak and it's not even close. Novak is strictly a 3 pt shooter who only excels at shooting wide open 3s. Teletovic over his career has been a high volume 3 pt shooter who can make contested 3s and has ability to put the ball on the floor to create his own shot. He's also a far better passer and can play in the low post a bit.

I meant on defense. Novak is the better defender, especially when it comes to guarding SFs. On offense I don't think we've ever seen a more one dimensional player than Novak.

[HelloBrooklyn]

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

Skill wise, Teletovic demolishes Novak and it's not even close. Novak is strictly a 3 pt shooter who only excels at shooting wide open 3s. Teletovic over his career has been a high volume 3 pt shooter who can make contested 3s and has ability to put the ball on the floor to create his own shot. He's also a far better passer and can play in the low post a bit.

I meant on defense. Novak is the better defender, especially when it comes to guarding SFs. On offense I don't think we've ever seen a more one dimensional player than Novak.

I wouldn't say he is THAT BAD defensively. Every time he is on the court, opposing teams always run the offense against him. His main problem is that he isn't that strong which he easily back down but he always make good intelligent decisions. All he really needs to bulk up a bit more. Which he did this off-season and we will see if he can match up with NBA power fowards.

[vincecarter4pres]

Most of us pray he gets Evans minutes this year, and with AK and KG there to play next to him, it's a possibility as his defense and rebounding is questionable.

Smart player, good passer and good scorer (more than just a shooter).

He claimed he wasn't prepared last season (major adjustment for him moving his family here and he bulked up which slowed him down) and says he's prepared better for this season.

We shall see.
He's probably the most polarizing player on the team as some have high hopes for him and others expect him to bust.

no, most nets fans prefer evans to him in a bench role... as a starter, sure, no one wanted evans. but with the new team and new dynamic reggie is much better suited to play those 12-15 mpg backing up KG. we have plenty of scoring to make up for him now.

I'll say it like this, I'd prefer Reggie plays 5 to 10 minutes a game and Tele 10 to 18. I'd like to see them both on the floor together with Kirilenko, Livingston and maybe Anderson as a full on bench mob 2nd unit for about 8 to 12 minutes a game in 4 to 5 minute spurts.

[vincecarter4pres]

He's strictly a stretch 4. He's incapable of playing SF and too small to play C.

Not so sure. If Novak, Turk, Peja and others have played SF he might be able to in the right match up.

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

You're showing you nothing of Teletovic.

In no way am I saying he will shine or will ever be able to defend at this level and slow his chucking style enough to stay on the floor for extended minutes, at least on a good team, but his actual skill set is diverse and dynamic. He can put the ball on the floor, he can get out on the break and is a very gifted passer.

[Novocaine]

The Nets big man rotation should be Lopez/Garnett/Kirilenko/Blatche. Evans and Teletovic should only be situational backups for specific matchups and game situations.

I hope Kidd uses AK plenty of minutes at the 4 because they'll need his speed there.

[DrazenForThree]

Most of us pray he gets Evans minutes this year, and with AK and KG there to play next to him, it's a possibility as his defense and rebounding is questionable.

Smart player, good passer and good scorer (more than just a shooter).

He claimed he wasn't prepared last season (major adjustment for him moving his family here and he bulked up which slowed him down) and says he's prepared better for this season.

We shall see.
He's probably the most polarizing player on the team as some have high hopes for him and others expect him to bust.

no, most nets fans prefer evans to him in a bench role... as a starter, sure, no one wanted evans. but with the new team and new dynamic reggie is much better suited to play those 12-15 mpg backing up KG. we have plenty of scoring to make up for him now.

I'll say it like this, I'd prefer Reggie plays 5 to 10 minutes a game and Tele 10 to 18. I'd like to see them both on the floor together with Kirilenko, Livingston and maybe Anderson as a full on bench mob 2nd unit for about 8 to 12 minutes a game in 4 to 5 minute spurts.

where do you fit blatche in there?

id have no issue with mirza playing and reggie eating bench minutes. last year thats how it SHOULD have been. we needed scoring and spacing. we were gonna suck on D either way so playing the better offensive player made sense.

this year i think we need rebounding/hustle and the better defender as opposed to another shooter. the good thing about reggie is he doesnt need consistent minutes to do what he does, so you can really jerk his minutes around without much effect on his play. id try and use each as the situation calls for it. id also play mirza more with the starters then with the bench, to open it up for those guys or capitalize on them drawing double teams.

its just a clusterfuug... ideally we can trade mirza and recoup a first rounder or add some youth or something.

[vincecarter4pres]

You are vastly underestimating Peja and Turk by mentioning them along with Novak and Teletovic. They were both all around offensive players that could do everything (Peja, more so than Turk). But don't forget that Turk was basically the Magic's point guard during their Finals run in 09.

The positives of their offensive games far outweighed any liability they caused on defense. Novak and Teletovic literally can only shoot on offense and do nothing on defense. (Teletovic is worse than Novak in this regard too)

Skill wise, Teletovic demolishes Novak and it's not even close. Novak is strictly a 3 pt shooter who only excels at shooting wide open 3s. Teletovic over his career has been a high volume 3 pt shooter who can make contested 3s and has ability to put the ball on the floor to create his own shot. He's also a far better passer and can play in the low post a bit.

I meant on defense. Novak is the better defender, especially when it comes to guarding SFs. On offense I don't think we've ever seen a more one dimensional player than Novak.

You meant Teletovic and Novak can literally only shoot on defense? Yeah that's awful. Defenders who can only shoot are terrible. You need to be able to dribble and pass and stuff on defense.

[vincecarter4pres]

where do you fit blatche in there?

id have no issue with mirza playing and reggie eating bench minutes. last year thats how it SHOULD have been. we needed scoring and spacing. we were gonna suck on D either way so playing the better offensive player made sense.

this year i think we need rebounding/hustle and the better defender as opposed to another shooter. the good thing about reggie is he doesnt need consistent minutes to do what he does, so you can really jerk his minutes around without much effect on his play. id try and use each as the situation calls for it. id also play mirza more with the starters then with the bench, to open it up for those guys or capitalize on them drawing double teams.

its just a clusterfuug... ideally we can trade mirza and recoup a first rounder or add some youth or something.

Between the 4 and the 5 there should be about 40 minutes a game to go around.

Say between AK, Tele, Blatche and Evans, you can spread them around.

5 to AK, the rest of his minutes at the 3.

16 to Blatche.

7 to Reggie.

12 to Tele.

[Laure]

Mirza Teletovic is actually Linas Kleiza in disguise.

[vincecarter4pres]

Mirza Teletovic is actually Linas Kleiza in disguise.

Yeah he is similar.

Better shooter, better passer, better shot blocker, worse defender.

[Novocaine]

Mirza Teletovic is actually Linas Kleiza in disguise.

Yeah he is similar.

Better shooter, better passer, better shot blocker, worse defender.

Teletovic is way more one-dimensional as a scorer relatively to Keiza and a worse rebounder.

Nets small 4 needs to be Kirilenko (at least in the playoffs). Teletovic weakens the rotation too much.

[kingkirk]

Most of us pray he gets Evans minutes this year, and with AK and KG there to play next to him, it's a possibility as his defense and rebounding is questionable.

Smart player, good passer and good scorer (more than just a shooter).

He claimed he wasn't prepared last season (major adjustment for him moving his family here and he bulked up which slowed him down) and says he's prepared better for this season.

We shall see.
He's probably the most polarizing player on the team as some have high hopes for him and others expect him to bust.

I honestly have no idea why he didn't play much last season.

I mean, without watching a host of games from the Nets last season, i would have to assume it was a mixture of Avery and PJ, but he just seemed like a logically fit to play off of Deron and Brook.

I'm not saying he should have been starting and playing 30+ minutes but i would have thought he deserved a little more than 9 minutes a game which he got last season.

He lacks in certain areas of the game, but when you have a knock down shooter from deep who is a big and seems like a logical fit with your 2 best players, he should get 15+ minutes a night.

[HelloBrooklyn]

Most of us pray he gets Evans minutes this year, and with AK and KG there to play next to him, it's a possibility as his defense and rebounding is questionable.

Smart player, good passer and good scorer (more than just a shooter).

He claimed he wasn't prepared last season (major adjustment for him moving his family here and he bulked up which slowed him down) and says he's prepared better for this season.

We shall see.
He's probably the most polarizing player on the team as some have high hopes for him and others expect him to bust.

I honestly have no idea why he didn't play much last season.

I mean, without watching a host of games from the Nets last season, i would have to assume it was a mixture of Avery and PJ, but he just seemed like a logically fit to play off of Deron and Brook.

I'm not saying he should have been starting and playing 30+ minutes but i would have thought he deserved a little more than 9 minutes a game which he got last season.

He lacks in certain areas of the game, but when you have a knock down shooter from deep who is a big and seems like a logical fit with your 2 best players, he should get 15+ minutes a night.

There was an article about Popovich talking about the Nets international players (i.e. Teletovic) being misused and not being properly developed. So that pretty much answer your question

[kingkirk]

There was an article about Popovich talking about the Nets international players (i.e. Teletovic) being misused and not being properly developed. So that pretty much answer your question

I haven't read this, but im assuming he referenced Mirza in a positive light?

He would certainly fit in what San Antonio do.

[HelloBrooklyn]

There was an article about Popovich talking about the Nets international players (i.e. Teletovic) being misused and not being properly developed. So that pretty much answer your question

I haven't read this, but im assuming he referenced Mirza in a positive light?

He would certainly fit in what San Antonio do.

Yeah the article was on netsdaily I don't feel like searching about but you are more than welcome to find it lol

[Trader_Joe]

There was an article about Popovich talking about the Nets international players (i.e. Teletovic) being misused and not being properly developed. So that pretty much answer your question

I haven't read this, but im assuming he referenced Mirza in a positive light?

He would certainly fit in what San Antonio do.

"I won’t mention the team, but a team we played this season … there was a foreign kid on there and the kid was open all the time. He was out there wondering, ‘What the…? I can’t get the ball?’ You’d see that look on his face five times during the game. While an American kid is dribbling in place, holding the ball. The guy played on a good team overseas, in a good program. He came over … [In Europe], he gets the ball and shoots it. Now, it doesn’t come."

Mirza Teletovic played 10 minutes in the Spurs blowout of the Nets, took one shot, a three, and missed it. Popovich was almost certainly talking about the Nets and Teletovic, say multiple sources. Pop's point, of course, was that the team was not making good use of a good player who was raised in a different system.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/2/7/39645 ... a-team-for

Nets have made a point to try to emulate San Antonio as the model for success. Coaches (Avery and PJ) as well as other help on the sidelines or front office. They also want to be able to find late draft talent, especially internationally like the Spurs.

So for Pop to say something like this was a major strike against PJ who was let go partly for his refusal and inability to play the new players.

[Johnlac1]

You acquire a player like Teletovic to do one thing: score points for you. It might be coming off the bench and only playing 20-25 minutes per game, but if you've got him, you have to play to his strengths. If Teletovic is on a team that does that, he could easily average 15-20 ppg even in limited time. He's a more athletic Ryan Anderson...and Anderson is not a bad athlete. But if some team decides he first has to be an outstanding defensive player and pass the ball to less gifted scorers, he is being misused. End of story.