'14 Draft Thread - Now With a Poll: VOTE OR DIE.

[ampd]

Wow this seems productive. College players simply could not defend against an NBA offense. Kansas would be blown out by the Sixers or any other NBA team.

Yeah, even if Wiggins and Selden both went off, and were moderately efficient, which is insanely unlikely considering even guys like Lebron aren't efficient against NBA defenses with high volume in their rookie seasons, theyd maybe put up 60-70 points and the 76ers would easily score 120+.

On top of it literally every other player on the roster is a liability against NBA players.

This isn't quite as bad as when people claim a team like Alabama could beat the Jaguars, but its close.

[skones]

You're just being ignorant.

Take a look in the mirror buddy. Calling me clueless when I had some legitimate arguments is being ignorant.

Like saying Hawes would get abused when Embiid wasn't able to do it against much lesser competition? Is that one of the legitimate arguments you're speaking of?

[Matches Malone]

You're just being ignorant.

Take a look in the mirror buddy. Calling me clueless when I had some legitimate arguments is being ignorant.

Like saying Hawes would get abused when Embiid wasn't able to do it against much lesser competition? Is that one of the legitimate arguments you're speaking of?

Nope

[ReasonablySober]

Kansas would get smoked by the 76ers.

It wouldn't even be remotely close. This is the dumbest argument we've had in here in a long time, and the quicker it dies so we can get back to talking about the '14 draft, the better.

[skones]

Take a look in the mirror buddy. Calling me clueless when I had some legitimate arguments is being ignorant.

Like saying Hawes would get abused when Embiid wasn't able to do it against much lesser competition? Is that one of the legitimate arguments you're speaking of?

Nope

Then what legitimate arguments are you making other than saying Wiggins is good? They have an excellent recruiting class, but ultimately the NBA is full of guys who were recruited very highly and excelled at a level none of these guys actually have. You're talking about one prospect carrying an NBA team on his back without him ever having played in a meaningful game at the NCAA level. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Go to their respective ESPN player pages and look at what guys like Spencer Hawes, James Anderson, Gani Lawal, Lavoy Allen, Darius Morris, Arnett Moultrie, Royce White, Tony Wroten, etc. etc. did in college. You're completely ignoring all of this. You're acting like none of these players had high expectations place upon them. Spencer Hawes, Gani Lawal, Moultrie, White, and Wroten were once all considered lottery prospects.

[VooDoo7]

You could take the best college team ever. And have them play against the worst NBA team ever. The NBA team win's 99.9% of the time.

[Wonka]

Hypothetically, do you think the Fab Five Michigan team could beat the 76ers? or the 7 wins Bobcats?

[emunney]

I think Wooden likely had some teams who could beat historically bad NBA teams. Lew Alcindor gives you a pretty big head start, for instance.

[ampd]

Hypothetically, do you think the Fab Five Michigan team could beat the 76ers? or the 7 wins Bobcats?

No, and no.

[LUKE23]

It wouldn't even be remotely close. This is the dumbest argument we've had in here in a long time, and the quicker it dies so we can get back to talking about the '14 draft, the better.

Yep.

[raysbookclub]

So let's just say we end up being better than the worst 8, and we miss out on Wiggins and PG's Exum, Smart, Harrison. Out of the following guys, right now who do you pick for the Bucks?

SF Glenn Robinson 6'6"
FC Mitch McGary 6'10"
SG Wayne Selden 6'6"
SG Gary Harris 6'4"

[Matches Malone]

So let's just say we end up being better than the worst 8, and we miss out on Wiggins and PG's Exum, Smart, Harrison. Out of the following guys, right now who do you pick for the Bucks?

SF Glenn Robinson 6'6"
FC Mitch McGary 6'10"
SG Wayne Selden 6'6"
SG Gary Harris 6'4"

Out of that group probably Selden. Otherwise Julius Randle, Jabari Parker, James Young, Semaj Christon and Aaron Gordon would be other names I'd consider for our pick.

[machu46]

So let's just say we end up being better than the worst 8, and we miss out on Wiggins and PG's Exum, Smart, Harrison. Out of the following guys, right now who do you pick for the Bucks?

SF Glenn Robinson 6'6"
FC Mitch McGary 6'10"
SG Wayne Selden 6'6"
SG Gary Harris 6'4"

Out of that group probably Selden. Otherwise Julius Randle, Jabari Parker, James Young, Semaj Christon and Aaron Gordon would be other names I'd consider for our pick.

Agreed, though I think Randle, Parker, and Gordon would be gone before our pick at #9 in this hypothetical.

For me, I'd probably take a hard look at Selden and Hezonja, and if we're going regardless of position/fit, I'd probably take a close look at Harrell and Isiah Austin.

[Baddy Chuck]

I'll have to see Selden this year, but Harris really impressed me last season. I was really high on G-Rob III too and wouldn't mind him, just less of a need positionally and probably not all that much more potential.. No thanks on McGary.

[bullox]

A little nugget on Embiid:

ESPN Insider story on Embiid from 10/02/12

Embiid was tossed a basketball lifeline by fellow countryman and current NBA player Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. The Milwaukee Buck saw him at one of his camps in Africa and then got Embiid involved with Basketball Beyond Borders. Mbah a Moute attended Montverde himself where he played for current George Washington assistant Kevin Sutton.

Also, I've seen Embiid play, but he didn't look very good. By all accounts he's improved quite a bit since, but he was a non-factor in the game I saw him.

Monteverde - Findlay Prep. NHSI title game March 2012

Embiid got absolutely destroyed by Brandon Ashley (currently at Arizona). Ashley had 31 and Embiid had 2. It was a great game otherwise.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsxE0ZO68NM[/youtube]


I've gotta sneak in a Findlay Prep mention whenever I get the chance

[DanoMac]

Speaking only on the big names, I've been working on my top 7 long and hard.

1. Wiggins
2. Randle
3. Exum
4. Harrison
5. Parker
6. Gordon
7. Smart

Harrison (Andrew) grows on me more and more. Reminds me of Irving and has a little bit of CP3 in his game.

The toughest debate is Randle and Exum. If I was GM of the Bucks, and I was on the clock and had to make the decision, I would literally flip a coin.

[skones]

Speaking only on the big names, I've been working on my top 7 long and hard.

1. Wiggins
2. Randle
3. Exum
4. Harrison
5. Parker
6. Gordon
7. Smart

Harrison (Andrew) grows on me more and more. Reminds me of Irving and has a little bit of CP3 in his game.

The toughest debate is Randle and Exum. If I was GM of the Bucks, and I was on the clock and had to make the decision, I would literally flip a coin.

I think you see Gordon drop by the time the draft rolls around next season as he's insisting on playing on the perimeter without the skills to match. I also think you'll see Isiah Austin rise considerably from where he's projected at the end of the lottery right now. He's a very odd type of player.

[LUKE23]

Mine as of right now of those 7 would be:

Wiggins
Randle
Parker
Exum
Harrison
Smart
Gordon

[Chuck Diesel]

I was up close and personal for three of Dario Saric's games at the Eurobasket. I still don't really know what to make of him, but I will say that Saric can really handle the ball for a guy his size.

[emunney]

We need a 2nd pick for Micic.