Preseason Game Thread

Post #1 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 2:25 pm

Figured I'd start a thread for all of the preseason games because I don't know if there will be enough posts to warrant one for individual games...

The Fenerbahce game has been kind of up and down... Jackson has continued to look promising, but Thabeet has more points than Lamb off the bench and that's something that just can't happen this season. Lamb is probably the guy that I'm playing the most attention to this preseason because I think he's easily the X-factor for both our early season success with Westbrook out and is also key if we are trying to make a bid at a championship.

GoSixersBro · Post #2 » by **GoSixersBro** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 2:33 pm

The longer hair is a good look for KD. Just tuned in. I see Kleiza is on this Turkish club.

Devilanche · Post #3 » by **Devilanche** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 2:54 pm

Perkins with a dislocated finger.

Cue shooting efficiency drops.

Post #4 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 3:22 pm

All of the starters are out of the game now (and even the top portion of the bench). Lamb gets a chance to shine a bit and I'm honestly still not too impressed. I'm pretty worried that this is inferior competition to most NBA bench units and he is really unable to score consistently, let alone be the number one option. Fisher got a lot of minutes backing Jackson up and lead the bench in scoring... another bad omen, IMO. We also haven't seen Gomes or Orton at all, which is a little disappointing.

BadWolf · Post #5 » by **BadWolf** » Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:01 pm

fener has a really nice team though, McCaleb and Bogdanoic are both nba caliber players, preldzic was drafted, vidmar and zoric are a nice physical players.

Lamb's performance was not all that impressive, Adams looked better then I expected, specially on offense, nice touch around the rim and a promising passing ability. Had troubles with Vidmar down low, though one of the fouls should be a block. PJ III was invisible most of his time. I liked Roberson, but still think he was taken way to high.

Joest2003 · Post #6 » by **Joest2003** » Sun Oct 6, 2013 4:08 pm

Lamb shot over 50% had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steal,s and 2 blocks with a team high +18. What else do you guys want him to do?? now if he missed a bunch of shots I would agree but thats not the case. I guarantee Brooks liked what he saw.

Post #7 » by **wizkid27** » Sun Oct 6, 2013 5:40 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Lamb shot over 50% had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steal,s and 2 blocks with a team high +18. What else do you guys want him to do?? now if he missed a bunch of shots I would agree but thats not the case. I guarantee Brooks liked what he saw.

Without trying to turn every thread into a Jeremy Lamb thread... It wasn't specifically stats that wasn't all that impressive to me. He honestly just didn't look confident and talented as I would expect against NBA competition, let alone competition that isn't at the level he'll be playing against for the next 8 months. He looked good enough to be maybe the third option off of the bench (I think that's generous from what I was seeing) but he's just definitely not at the sixth man level we need him at while Russ is out. Still have a few weeks to get there, but a lot of my optimism for how he was going to come back significantly better is dampened at this point.

Joest2003 · Post #8 » by **Joest2003** » Sun Oct 6, 2013 11:34 pm

Im just saying when you shoot over 50% and are a team high +18 thats usually not frowned upon.

Post #9 » by **wizkid27** » Tue Oct 8, 2013 9:20 pm

Some quick thoughts on the Sixers game:

Reggie Jackson is ready. He's not Russ, but he looked pretty sharp, in control, confident enough to run the offense, etc. Nothing that just completely blew me away, he just looked like he is really ready for this.

Orton/Adams - I thought they looked similar. I don't know if it is just me thinking the grass is greener by saying that either would be an upgrade from Perk. But it is definitely good to see them both getting minutes. I feel like Orton is the best compliment to Serge, but he also has a lot of moments that remind me of Thabeet (just not looking confident or ready for this level).

PJ3 - Man... I just continue to be disappointed. There is nothing this guy is doing to give me hope. I feel like this is one of those rare cases where you just go ahead and decline the 3rd year option (I don't remember hearing that they've picked it up yet).

Lamb - He showed enough to keep me convinced that at some point he can be a good player. But every bit as ready as Jackson looked, Lamb is on the other side of it. Even his good plays are off of his talent and athleticism and not about hard work, confidence or intelligence. I'd feel reasonably comfortable with this if we had another guy we could fall back on, but seeing as he's going to almost have to be the 6th man and sparkplug to start the season and then at least our top wing off of the bench thereafter. This is the one role I'm still most worried about.

Serge - His mid-range jumper is so good and consistent now that I'm almost worried he's too in love with it. I would love to see him add a shot fake a drive to that deadly jumper. I was reasonably impressed with his rebounding too. The Sixers don't have much competition for him on the boards, but it'd be great if he could pick up that part of his game.

Other than that.... I thought everybody pretty much looked like themselves from last year. Anybody else get a chance to watch?

Post #10 » by **bondom34** » Tue Oct 8, 2013 10:23 pm

Glad someone got to see it, unfortunately I didn't, but looking at the box score/play by play info, you seem to confirm some of my thoughts. I was glad to see Adams get a lot of time, and I'm hoping that translates to the RS as well. Lamb seems like he's on/off game to game with his shooting, and I wish Reggie could be sixth man to start the season, but he'll hopefully be there when Russ gets back. I didn't see it, but if Orton and Adams seem similar, I'd rather Adams get the minutes at this point, as he's more likely to show greater growth I'd say. Saw KD lit it up for a while, but it worries me he seems to be distributing at least as much as whoever's PG at the time. Hopefully it evens out a bit, but pumped for the season, and just got League Pass signed up yesterday for the first time ever!

Post #11 » by **wizkid27** » Wed Oct 9, 2013 4:04 am

bondom34 wrote:Glad someone got to see it, unfortunately I didn't, but looking at the box score/play by play info, you seem to confirm some of my thoughts. I was glad to see Adams get a lot of time, and I'm hoping that translates to the RS as well. Lamb seems like he's on/off game to game with his shooting, and I wish Reggie could be sixth man to start the season, but he'll hopefully be there when Russ gets back. I didn't see it, but if Orton and Adams seem similar, I'd rather Adams get the minutes at this point, as he's more likely to show greater growth I'd say. Saw KD lit it up for a while, but it worries me he seems to be distributing at least as much as whoever's PG at the time. Hopefully it evens out a bit, but pumped for the season, and just got League Pass signed up yesterday for the first time ever!

The only thing I'll bring up on Orton vs Adams (although I agree with the overall sentiment) is that Orton seems to have really good hands and a solid feel for the low post offensive game. Adams is more athletic and better in the open court, but if I was going to just toss the ball into the post, I would want Orton to be the one catching it. I do feel like they're somewhere around the same level and that Adams probably has a higher upside though.

I think the KD distributing thing was intentional... In the first half it seemed like he was intentionally NOT looking for his shot (I think he had something like 7 pts/6 rbs/7 asts). He dominated the 3rd (including scoring). I think they're trying to figure out what they can do OTHER than toss the ball to KD, which is definitely what they need to be doing.

I actually just signed up for league pass broadband for the first time myself...

Post #12 » by **bondom34** » Wed Oct 9, 2013 4:09 am

wizkid27 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Glad someone got to see it, unfortunately I didn't, but looking at the box score/play by play info, you seem to confirm some of my thoughts. I was glad to see Adams get a lot of time, and I'm hoping that translates to the RS as well. Lamb seems like he's on/off game to game with his shooting, and I wish Reggie could be sixth man to start the season, but he'll hopefully be there when Russ gets back. I didn't see it, but if Orton and Adams seem similar, I'd rather Adams get the minutes at this point, as he's more likely to show greater growth I'd say. Saw KD lit it up for a while, but it worries me he seems to be distributing at least as much as whoever's PG at the time. Hopefully it evens out a bit, but pumped for the season, and just got League Pass signed up yesterday for the first time ever!

The only thing I'll bring up on Orton vs Adams (although I agree with the overall sentiment) is that Orton seems to have really good hands and a solid feel for the low post offensive game. Adams is more athletic and better in the open court, but if I was going to just toss the ball into the post, I would want Orton to be the one catching it. I do feel like they're somewhere around the same level and that Adams probably has a higher upside though.

I think the KD distributing thing was intentional... In the first half it seemed like he was intentionally NOT looking for his shot (I think he had something like 7 pts/6 rbs/7 asts). He dominated the 3rd (including scoring). I think they're trying to figure out what they can do OTHER than toss the ball to KD, which is definitely what they need to be doing.

I actually just signed up for league pass broadband for the first time myself...

Glad to hear about the KD thing, and that was pretty much my thoughts on Adams/Orton, even if theres a little less skill there, I think Orton's closer to his ceiling than Adams (Adams is a one and done, so he's a yr out of high school, Orton's been around a few years after I think just a yr in college). LP is a good buy to see this team develop I hope.

Devilanche · Post #13 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Oct 9, 2013 12:10 pm

wizkid27 wrote:PJ3 - Man... I just continue to be disappointed. There is nothing this guy is doing to give me hope. I feel like this is one of those rare cases where you just go ahead and decline the 3rd year option (I don't remember hearing that they've picked it up yet).

Still worth a late second somewhere. Heck we gave a second for Lazar.
I think it's closer to season start that options has to be decided upon.

Podirk · Post #14 » by **Podirk** » Wed Oct 9, 2013 8:55 pm

Thoughts through 2 games..

Jackson will be fine with Starter min and will thrive in 6th man role. Reg will need to be considered in the finishing 5 for games.

Adams has continued on impressing similar to Summer League...almost expect him to get some regular season burn...but Brooks looms.

I think Orton is as good as gone...sadly.

Lamb is confusing. Played pretty good D, rebounded well, but struggled shooting in Game 2 (and was NOT over 50% vs Ulker). My biggest problem with Martin last year was when he was off he forced it trying to get on. Hoping the overseas was just missing with his head and by reg season Lamb is draining the 3 and keeping up the defensive intensity.

Fat · Post #15 » by **Fat** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:43 am

havent seen anything from the thunders pre-season yet, hows Adams looking?

Podirk · Post #16 » by **Podirk** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:35 am

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:havent seen anything from the thunders pre-season yet, hows Adams looking?

Caught a few nice passes in traffic and finished, some good o rebounds , screens, movement, picking up the d. Striggled a lil with defensive glass...all from reading and highlights...didn't get to watch the full thing.

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Podirk · Post #17 » by **Podirk** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:49 am

Podirk wrote:Thoughts through 2 games..

Jackson will be fine with Starter min and will thrive in 6th man role. Reg will need to be considered in the finishing 5 for games.

Adams has continued on impressing similar to Summer League...almost expect him to get some regular season burn...but Brooks looms.

I think Orton is as good as gone...sadly.

Lamb is confusing. Played pretty good D, rebounded well, but struggled shooting in Game 2 (and was NOT over 50% vs Ulker). My biggest problem with Martin last year was when he was off he forced it trying to get on. Hoping the overseas was just missing with his head and by reg season Lamb is draining the 3 and keeping up the defensive intensity.

Ha just saw my Orton thoughts...next day waived. Ready to see more of reg lamb jones and Adams! Still a few days left

Post #18 » by **wizkid27** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:33 am

Interesting game today... Durant was dominant, I really feel like he came out saying "I want to score" as opposed to last game, where it seemed like he came out saying "I want to distribute". I have almost no doubt that he is significantly better than last year... that is ridiculous.

Jackson wasn't great, but still seemed like he's got enough to start at PG until Russ gets back and be a great sixth man thereafter.

Adams continues to be an intriguing prospect. He's a foul magnet, like a lot of rookie bigs. But he seems to have better ball control. There was one play where he outran everyone down the floor, sealed Mozgov, got it, and went straight up... That one play is way more than I'm accustomed to seeing out of the center spot on this team.

Thabeet still looks like Thabeet. He's good at a couple of things every once in a while, but doesn't look like he really gets the game. He had a nice putback dunk at one point... sadly it came after a missed lay-in.

Lamb is still really troubling to me. Really what we need him to be is almost JR Smith like. Even Nate Robinson. He's just not there. His shot has been awful almost all preseason. Consistently awful. He's not on PJ3 level of me giving up hope, but he just isn't showing the feel for the offensive game that it seemed like he had in college.

Ibaka had a great game. His numbers weren't particularly eye-popping. But his scoring came in the way that we're going to need it without a wing scoring threat in addition to Durant. He was aggressive and scored more off of post moves and isolation than wide open jumpers. Not that I dislike wide open jumpers at all, he's awesome at them, I just feel like he's going to have to create his own looks a bit more in the early part of the season.

Anybody else get a chance to watch this one?

Podirk · Post #19 » by **Podirk** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:30 pm

You could tell Durant didn't want anyone to forget he can score in bunches. I was most encouraged by the talk of him getting a little better position on defenders...even if it was A Randolph.

Lamb and jones both are a lil concerning, though it doesn't matter for another week or so.

Gomes still not getting any action.

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Post #20 » by **bondom34** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:25 pm

Didn't get to see it, and kinda bummed I won't see them till the RS (busy thursday/Sunday not on TV). From what I could read about it, it looks like Roberson's a solid defensive player and hustles, and Lamb worries me, but I at least like to see he's doing other things (assists/rebounds are there). Just want games to start for real.