LeBron startled by hypocrisy of KG, PP leaving Celtics

[smith2373]

Guys take off the green glasses. Ray Allen was traded to Memphis at the break before it fell apart late. Doc and Danny told him so. So, at the end of the year, we expected him to resign?

Half the people here used advanced stats to say that Courtney Lee was better. Really?

Ray Made a mistake (he's a New England guy), Celtics made a mistake. It happens. KGs response to a guy he's known since he was a 13 year old was to me shocking.

I don't think it's the fact that Ray left, it's the team he chose. He took less to play for a team that had knocked the Celtics out of the playoffs two straight years and was coming off a 7 game series in the ECF.

If Ray had went to a team like the Clippers or OKC, he would not have gotten as much hate and backlash as he did.

[King Of The 4th]

Why does this have me so worked up? Wish I didn't care so much, but I'm infuriated.

Comparisons are not even close. The situations are not even in the same galaxy. No-trade was waived because the franchise wanted to trade KG.

WE HAD JUST COME OFF OF A 7 GAME SERIES IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE **** FINALS WITH MIAMI AND THEN RAY ALLEN WENT THERE.

I don't even understand how LeBron could come to this conclusion. Why is it so hard for someone to make the conclusion that being traded doesn't equal leaving in free agency?

[sunshinekids99]

Guys take off the green glasses. Ray Allen was traded to Memphis at the break before it fell apart late. Doc and Danny told him so. So, at the end of the year, we expected him to resign?

Half the people here used advanced stats to say that Courtney Lee was better. Really?

Ray Made a mistake (he's a New England guy), Celtics made a mistake. It happens. KGs response to a guy he's known since he was a 13 year old was to me shocking.

I have no problem with Ray leaving and to be honest I wanted him to leave. I thought Terry and Lee would easily fill in and it just didn't happen. My issue with Ray is his constant ability to run his mouth and he woe is me story.

[Valid]

LMFAO.

Another example of how LeBron is a bitch.

Ray left because he WANTED to leave. He turned down more money from the C's to go to their biggest rival.

KG and Pierce did not want to leave. AINGE WANTED TO REBUILD.

Give me a **** break LeBron. Shut the **** up.

[Valid]

Guys take off the green glasses. Ray Allen was traded to Memphis at the break before it fell apart late. Doc and Danny told him so. So, at the end of the year, we expected him to resign?

Half the people here used advanced stats to say that Courtney Lee was better. Really?

Ray Made a mistake (he's a New England guy), Celtics made a mistake. It happens. KGs response to a guy he's known since he was a 13 year old was to me shocking.

This is ridiculous.

Ainge was prepared to send Rondo to New Orleans. Pierce was almost dealt to the Nets that same year. KG was mentioned in Josh Smith trade rumors.

Do you see any of them bitching about it? No, and you know why?

BECAUSE IT **** HAPPENS. Get over it.

The fact is that Ray took LESS money to go to our biggest rival, something KG, Pierce or Rondo NEVER would have done. None of those guys would be caught dead wearing a Heat jersey.

Also, as far as I know, KG hasn't known Ray since he was 13. He's known PIERCE since he was 13, and even if he did know Ray for that long, don't you think that makes it even worse?

Let's say one of your best friends of 20+ years turns his back on you by joining a group of people that he and you were enemies with for a long period of time. You wouldn't feel betrayed? You wouldn't be pissed?

Please.

These two situations are ENTIRELY different.

LeBron and Wade are bitch ass phonies.

[Slartibartfast]

They really hate KG - it isn't about logic, just about getting in digs.

I love it - it's great to watch teams that legitimately hate each other go at it. Nets/Heat will be lots of fun this year.

[2Mas]

Guys take off the green glasses. Ray Allen was traded to Memphis at the break before it fell apart late. Doc and Danny told him so. So, at the end of the year, we expected him to resign?

Half the people here used advanced stats to say that Courtney Lee was better. Really?

Ray Made a mistake (he's a New England guy), Celtics made a mistake. It happens. KGs response to a guy he's known since he was a 13 year old was to me shocking.

This is ridiculous.

Ainge was prepared to send Rondo to New Orleans. Pierce was almost dealt to the Nets that same year. KG was mentioned in Josh Smith trade rumors.

Do you see any of them bitching about it? No, and you know why?

BECAUSE IT **** HAPPENS. Get over it.

The fact is that Ray took LESS money to go to our biggest rival, something KG, Pierce or Rondo NEVER would have done. None of those guys would be caught dead wearing a Heat jersey.

Also, as far as I know, KG hasn't known Ray since he was 13. He's known PIERCE since he was 13, and even if he did know Ray for that long, don't you think that makes it even worse?

Let's say one of your best friends of 20+ years turns his back on you by joining a group of people that he and you were enemies with for a long period of time. You wouldn't feel betrayed? You wouldn't be pissed?

Please.

These two situations are ENTIRELY different.

LeBron and Wade are bitch ass phonies.

Yessss bro! Preach!

[Valid]

Guys take off the green glasses. Ray Allen was traded to Memphis at the break before it fell apart late. Doc and Danny told him so. So, at the end of the year, we expected him to resign?

Half the people here used advanced stats to say that Courtney Lee was better. Really?

Ray Made a mistake (he's a New England guy), Celtics made a mistake. It happens. KGs response to a guy he's known since he was a 13 year old was to me shocking.

This is ridiculous.

Ainge was prepared to send Rondo to New Orleans. Pierce was almost dealt to the Nets that same year. KG was mentioned in Josh Smith trade rumors.

Do you see any of them bitching about it? No, and you know why?

BECAUSE IT **** HAPPENS. Get over it.

The fact is that Ray took LESS money to go to our biggest rival, something KG, Pierce or Rondo NEVER would have done. None of those guys would be caught dead wearing a Heat jersey.

Also, as far as I know, KG hasn't known Ray since he was 13. He's known PIERCE since he was 13, and even if he did know Ray for that long, don't you think that makes it even worse?

Let's say one of your best friends of 20+ years turns his back on you by joining a group of people that he and you were enemies with for a long period of time. You wouldn't feel betrayed? You wouldn't be pissed?

Please.

These two situations are ENTIRELY different.

LeBron and Wade are bitch ass phonies.

Yessss bro! Preach!

Haha. My man! Easily one of my favorite posters here.

[BRUNiNHO91]

I just realized Brooklyn plays Miami tonight on TNT. That should be fun if KG and Paul got a hold of those comments. I'll certainly tune in for that..lol

[Darth Celtic]

I need that poster shutuplebron to respond here, as my only statement is "shut up lebron"

[2Mas]

I just realized Brooklyn plays Miami tonight on TNT. That should be fun if KG and Paul got a hold of those comments. I'll certainly tune in for that..lol

You know they definitely have. It's been what a whole 3 hours since it's been out? Lol imagine being their boy?

me - "Yo Kev man the heat are talking reckless agian!"
Kev -"These &*@$^@^ing %^&(_(#BRP)_YR#)&RFbu"
me - "Yeah man word.. Goodluck though bro."

[BRUNiNHO91]

I just realized Brooklyn plays Miami tonight on TNT. That should be fun if KG and Paul got a hold of those comments. I'll certainly tune in for that..lol

You know they definitely have. It's been what a whole 3 hours since it's been out? Lol imagine being their boy?

me - "Yo Kev man the heat are talking reckless agian!"
Kev -"These &*@$^@^ing %^&(_(#BRP)_YR#)&RFbu"
me - "Yeah man word.. Goodluck though bro."

I could actually picture dude slamming things in the locker room while saying that..

[UHar_Vinnie]

Gotta love that LaQueef kid in Miami.

[Bostons Finest]

Lebron was standing up for his teammate, but it makes him sound like an idiot.

Ray Allen was a FA and Pierce and Garnett were traded. Plus, The KG/PP trade was best for the Celtics, Ray Allen leaving was worst.

[aporel18]

Lebron was standing up for his teammate, but it makes him sound like an idiot.

Ray Allen was a FA and Pierce and Garnett were traded. Plus, The KG/PP trade was best for the Celtics, Ray Allen leaving was worst.

LeBron is an idiot, he's shown that in the past, like when he said he could shoot 50-40-90 over a season if that was his priority.

Shut up and enjoy your back-to-back championships, it won't last forever.

[Durins Baynes]

People have already made my point for me. What Lebron said is pretty reasonable. Guys ripped on Ray for leaving, even though the Celtics were the ones who wouldn't show Ray any loyalty. I'm also not sure the Celtics were really still a real shot for the title when Ray booked, though of course they weren't rebuilding like they are now. KG could have retired or suffered through it, but like most players he did what was best for him. And so did Ray (and in retrospect it worked for him).

[Bar Fight]

I don't get why this dude doesn't just shut up and play basketball. Him and D-Wade are two of the biggest attention whores in the league, always commenting & getting into with other teams/players in the media. He has a point, but he should really just worry about his own damn team and shut the **** up. And Heat/Lebron fans wonder why they're by far the most hated team amongst NBA fans?

[greenmachine_2849]

Some of the hypocrisy regarding Ray Allen on this board is unreal. Danny Ainge was the one who did his damnedest to break up the championship team prematurely (trading Kendrick Perkins to Oklahoma, trading Ray Allen to Memphis, continuously shopping Pierce and Rondo, etc.). Not Ray Allen. So Ray Allen eventually saw the writing on the wall and took control of his own destiny. In hindsight, it was certainly the right move. Had he stayed, he would currently be in one of three situations:

A) be the lone veteran presence on a Celtic team that is actively trying to stink up the joint this season
B) be on a pseudo-contender not of his choosing after reluctantly waiving his no-trade clause to avoid being in scenario A
C) be entering into his first year of retirement

None of those situations seem favorable to the one he actually wound up in. So he took a little less money to chase a second ring. Big deal. The Celtics for the past five years have been signing veterans like Shaq and Rasheed Wallace at discounted prices so they could do the same thing. The only difference is that at the end of the day, Allen succeeded in his chase.

[Marvel]

I can't even comprehend what this guy is saying. I mean, i do, but my brain short circuits when i try to...

There's a HUGE difference between how Ray left and Pierce and KG being traded. I don't blame KG one bit for waiving his NTC. He was forced into that situation. Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work. KG would have had no pleasure in playing for a bottom eastern conference team struggling to win 20 games.

LeBron's so caught up in the hype that he can't think beyond his penis.

[Durins Baynes]

How much money were the Celtics offering Ray anyway, did he really get much less on Miami? They were keen to give his role to someone else as I recall it.