LeBron startled by hypocrisy of KG, PP leaving Celtics

15th overall · Post #41 » by **15th overall** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:42 pm

Durins Baynes wrote:How much money were the Celtics offering Ray anyway, did he really get much less on Miami? They were keen to give his role to someone else as I recall it.

It was either $7 or $9 million per with a full no trade clause and his role here wouldve been pretty much identical to his in Miami.. come off the bench and gun it. So he basically paid 8 figures to stick it to Doc and Danny.

"Classiest player in the league."

Durins Baynes · Post #42 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:09 am

Link? I distinctly remember talk of him being benched for Bradley. Ainge tried to trade him too if I recall right.

Post #43 » by **canman1971** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:49 am

LeBitch just likes to talk out of his ass. That's what happens when uneducated people get a lot of money. They believe everything they say.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #44 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:01 am

Steve Kerr agrees with LeBron. Says Pierce and Garnett did the same Ray did and went to 'greener pastures'.

Post #45 » by **canman1971** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:23 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Steve Kerr agrees with LeBron. Says Pierce and Garnett did the same Ray did and went to 'greener pastures'.

Steve Kerr is also a jock sniffing idiot.

DelMonte West · Post #46 » by **DelMonte West** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:23 am

Durins Baynes wrote:Link? I distinctly remember talk of him being benched for Bradley. Ainge tried to trade him too if I recall right.

Allen was benched for Bradley because Bradley was killing it on the court, wreaking havoc on the defensive end like we hadn't seen since the '07-08 season, while Allen couldn't hit the broad side of the barn. We went on a tear with him in the starting lineup.

And yes, Ainge tried to trade him, just like any competent GM should do to improve his team. Nobody's off-limits.

Durins Baynes · Post #47 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:37 am

So Ray left after being benched and after Ainge tried to trade him (and right after Ainge traded Perkins, who also didn't want to go). Sounds like Allen didn't owe them any loyalty then, and was just reading the writing on the wall.

15th overall · Post #48 » by **15th overall** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:45 am

Durins Baynes wrote:Link? I distinctly remember talk of him being benched for Bradley. Ainge tried to trade him too if I recall right.

Cant find one because google's flooded with this very story right now but it's out there. If I remember right, Ray's counter offer was $12 million per.. and then he bolted to the team that knocked him out of the ECF for the vet minimum.

Guy's not only "classy" and "loyal" but "competitive" as well. The total package.

kulo · Post #49 » by **kulo** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:49 am

Ray was benched because he was injured and while he was the starting unit had good continuity, why change that? Ainge will try trade everyone if it's the right deal, but that's him. Not KG, Pierce, the fans or anyone else that didn't want him traded. Allen didn't owe loyalty to Danny, but to KG, Pierce etc. he did. It's like leaving a domestic basketball team with all your friends because one of your teammates mother doesn't like you. There was no writing on the wall considering Danny offered him and KG a No-Trade clause.

Durins Baynes · Post #50 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:09 am

I call bull on Ray demanding $12 mill. Ray's not an idiot. Heck, he negotiated one of his Milwaukee contracts without an agent (he just hired a lawyer to do the paper work). No way did he ask for $12 mill per. That's just absurd.

kulo · Post #51 » by **kulo** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:25 am

Durins Baynes wrote:I call bull on Ray demanding $12 mill. Ray's not an idiot. Heck, he negotiated one of his Milwaukee contracts without an agent (he just hired a lawyer to do the paper work). No way did he ask for $12 mill per. That's just absurd.

it was 2 Years $12 mill and NTC that Danny offered.

Durins Baynes · Post #52 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:29 am

The poster above claimed Ray wanted $12 mill per year. I call bull on that, not on 2 years $12 mill (which is reasonable). I'd still like to see evidence for it though.

Post #53 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:29 am

Durins Baynes wrote:I call bull on Ray demanding $12 mill. Ray's not an idiot. Heck, he negotiated one of his Milwaukee contracts without an agent (he just hired a lawyer to do the paper work). No way did he ask for $12 mill per. That's just absurd.

It was reported by multiple sources. The Celtics offered him $6 million per season, and he "counter-offered" $12 million/year because he knew the Celtics couldn't and wouldn't do it. Then he turned around and signed a deal with the Heat for $3 million/year if I recall correctly.

Get your facts straight before "calling bull".

Durins Baynes · Post #54 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:33 am

Could someone provide me with a link of this then?

Fiktion · Post #55 » by **Fiktion** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:36 am

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Post #56 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:39 am

Durins Baynes wrote:Could someone provide me with a link of this then?

Are you familiar with Google?

Durins Baynes · Post #57 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:42 am

Are you familiar with google?

I am. And I never saw any evidence around the time this was happening on my daily basketball news reading to suggest he asked for $12 mill per season. Hence why I'm asking if you can provide it.

Post #58 » by **Geoffrey P** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:43 am

Bing is the thing nowadays, SuperDeluxe. Get with the program man

Post #59 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:49 am

Durins Baynes wrote:
Are you familiar with google?

I am. And I never saw any evidence around the time this was happening on my daily basketball news reading to suggest he asked for $12 mill per season. Hence why I'm asking if you can provide it.

I could, but my time is just as valuable as yours. Or maybe more, judging by the time you're devoting to this thread.

Durins Baynes · Post #60 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:54 am

Well, I'm a simple man. I believe in what I can prove, or what makes logical sense, so unless people can present evidence of this claim I'm going to assume it is untrue.