Game Thread Wiz vs Pelicans in Lexington 7PM

[hands11]

Other than Nene, we get nothing, zilch, zero, nada from our young post players. Seraphin should give us more than 3 points from the foul line. Booker is playing the Dennis Rodman/Reggie Evans role of don't shoot unless it's a dunk which is fine. I know Al is a power forward but he's not really a post or young.

I didn't see that as the biggest problem. Kevin got 9 rebounds in 23 minutes and only shot twice.
Ves grabbed 5 boards in 15 minutes and it sounded like he defended well. Ves had 3 of the teams 8 offensive rebounds in only 15 minutes.

The bigger problems were turnover.. Beal had 6 and Wall 5.
The Trevors didn't get it done. Booker didn't rebound enough and didn't score but 2 pts in 15 min.
Trevor A played good D but 1-6 sucks 3 turnovers in 20 min

And Randy has to just pick one of Temple or Maynor and live with it because I would have rather seen Glen getting some minutes. Glen attacks the basket and they need that. Glen got no mins tonight. But its preseason and I think he is trying to decide which way to go with those two so he played both. I think he knows what he has in Glen Rice already.

[80sballboy]

Webster needs to start.

I don't think strengthening the second unit offensively is more important than starting out strong. I think he's going to have to play Rice at the backup 2 spot over Temple just to get more scoring from the 2nd unit. You don't give Webster that much money to sit.

[dlts20]

I mean why in the world is it even a consideration to play Temple over Rice? You drafted Rice and Temple has no potential to be any kind of good player. Rice gets a DNP over a guy like Temple who shouldnt even see a minute when the season starts? Its annoying. This should be the time when you are giving guys like Rice any leftover minutes

[Illmatic21]

I mean why in the world is it even a consideration to play Temple over Rice? You drafted Rice and Temple has no potential to be any kind of good player. Rice gets a DNP over a guy like Temple who shouldnt even see a minute when the season starts? Its annoying. This should be the time when you are giving guys like Rice any leftover minutes

I think Wittman must be doing it to mess with the rook's head.

[80sballboy]

I mean why in the world is it even a consideration to play Temple over Rice? You drafted Rice and Temple has no potential to be any kind of good player. Rice gets a DNP over a guy like Temple who shouldnt even see a minute when the season starts? Its annoying. This should be the time when you are giving guys like Rice any leftover minutes

It's not annoying, it's preseason. It's where you experiment. He wants Rice to play the right way. He hasn't earned anything yet. Just because he was the 2nd round pick doesn't mean sh-t. Rice doesn't need to be launching 3 pointer after 3 pointer when he can't make them yet. Attack the basket, defend and pass the ball. Don't be a black hole. I think he's sending a message and if you do it in the preseason, who cares? Temple has very little talent but he did show last year that he has some versatility and at least belongs in the league. Rice showed he can play in the D-League.

[nuposse04]

The TOs suck but Beal looks like a legitimate 1st option. On a night where you get to next to nothing via your frontline you're still in the game. Production must get better though. Obviously I can't comment on why they didn't produce since I didn't see most of it but it is a bit odd that Booker only got 15 mins.

I remember reading on twitter Webster had an ankle injury...not sure why he was allowed to play extended minutes if he tweaked something. SF production from nights like this are why we drafted Porter. I think he'll find ways to contribute outside of the 3 pt shooting (which is the primary function of Webster) and w/e it is that Ariza brings.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

26 turnovers, 11 from our starting backcourt.

Until he starts routinely outplaying Jrue Holiday, John Wall will be nowhere near a superstar.

I think Beal is going to be the Wizards best player within two years.

[DANNYLANDOVER]

26 turnovers, 11 from our starting backcourt.

Until he starts routinely outplaying Jrue Holiday, John Wall will be nowhere near a superstar.

I think Beal is going to be the Wizards best player within two years.

You mean the same Holiday that had 8 TOs and pretty much led the league in TOs last season?...yeah, save your Wall hating for the regular season.

[hands11]

I mean why in the world is it even a consideration to play Temple over Rice? You drafted Rice and Temple has no potential to be any kind of good player. Rice gets a DNP over a guy like Temple who shouldnt even see a minute when the season starts? Its annoying. This should be the time when you are giving guys like Rice any leftover minutes

It's not annoying, it's preseason. It's where you experiment. He wants Rice to play the right way. He hasn't earned anything yet. Just because he was the 2nd round pick doesn't mean sh-t. Rice doesn't need to be launching 3 pointer after 3 pointer when he can't make them yet. Attack the basket, defend and pass the ball. Don't be a black hole. I think he's sending a message and if you do it in the preseason, who cares? Temple has very little talent but he did show last year that he has some versatility and at least belongs in the league. Rice showed he can play in the D-League.

Very similar to how I was seeing it. Glen hasn't shot well from outside yet. I think Randy was giving his a night off to watch and think about the game a little. And contrary to what some are saying about Temple, he is a good utility player and he shot a pretty decent 3 ball the end of last year.

Now its down to two games. I think Randy is going to start tighten up the rotations so they can really focus on winning these last two so they have some momentum going into the season. Specially since these next two are on the road. They have to start finding their rotations.

Season opens at Detroit so this next one will be a good test.

[deneem4]

I mean why in the world is it even a consideration to play Temple over Rice? You drafted Rice and Temple has no potential to be any kind of good player. Rice gets a DNP over a guy like Temple who shouldnt even see a minute when the season starts? Its annoying. This should be the time when you are giving guys like Rice any leftover minutes

It's not annoying, it's preseason. It's where you experiment. He wants Rice to play the right way. He hasn't earned anything yet. Just because he was the 2nd round pick doesn't mean sh-t. Rice doesn't need to be launching 3 pointer after 3 pointer when he can't make them yet. Attack the basket, defend and pass the ball. Don't be a black hole. I think he's sending a message and if you do it in the preseason, who cares? Temple has very little talent but he did show last year that he has some versatility and at least belongs in the league. Rice showed he can play in the D-League.

Rice jr shooting may have not bern on point but he definitely deserve minutes after booker and webster he should be the next man off the bench.
Why?
Because he plays with fearless, he plays like he wan to win the game, thats something we haven't had, especially coming off the bench, his jumper will improve, its a different feel of the game switching from d league to nba...remember how beal was when he started?...couldnt get a shot in...once rice get used to the tempo snf intensity hes probably going to be our 6man...

Another thing is nene is getting too much seniority, for a player who says hr admitted retiring and wants his minutes reduced hes getting treated like he owed something, he shouldve definitely came off thr bench thid game and booker shouldve started, vesley shouldve got more minutes as well...our younger players are important they wont be game like decisions like nene...they need this preseason time...nene is goin to be nene we knows tht...but we dont kno if vesley is learning how to attack the basket or if rice jr can play pg or if booker can defend faster forwards...thats what preseason is for, seems whittman not understanding tht

[DCsOwn]

26 turnovers, 11 from our starting backcourt.

Until he starts routinely outplaying Jrue Holiday, John Wall will be nowhere near a superstar.

I think Beal is going to be the Wizards best player within two years.

John had 16 and 11 in 32 minutes of action. Definitely acceptable production given the circumscribed minutes.

[Knighthonor]

are there any highlights to this game? not even NBA.com has videos.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

26 turnovers, 11 from our starting backcourt.

Until he starts routinely outplaying Jrue Holiday, John Wall will be nowhere near a superstar.

I think Beal is going to be the Wizards best player within two years.

You mean the same Holiday that had 8 TOs and pretty much led the league in TOs last season?...yeah, save your Wall hating for the regular season.

How about you just save it and put me on ignore? Life's too short.

I'm putting you on ignore before the season even starts. I will comment about a max player any way I damn well please and as far as I'm concerned you are my hater, so you fit your accusation well, too.

What I will do is just not respond to your posts.

[dlts20]

80'sballboy & Hands11, I totally disagree with your assesment. In one breath you say its the Preseason and its too experiment while in the next sentence you talk about holding rookies accountable. He wants Rice to play the right way so you bench a rookie in his 4th Preseason game? This is what the Preseason is for. To get him the minutes so he can play the right way. You should easily be able to tell him that without benching him and if he doesnt learn then you bench him during the season.

The only way you bench him now is for guys like Webster to get use to being a 6th man or if Otto Porter is taking his minutes. You dont bench him for Garrett freakin Temple. A guy who shouldnt even be on our roster at all. Its annoying just like Cartier Martin playing over guys. You easily see there limitations when they are out there. Again, Im not saying Rice is the answer, is special, or should even see the floor at all in the regular season but you dont bench him in the Preseason for a regular guy like Temple. It makes no sense at all.

Dont tell me about him being benched for the way he plays when you use to give 40 plus minutes to Nick Young & Jordan Crawford. Again, you should be able to get it through his head without benching him. If you think he is about to tighten the rotation then fine but how can you say he's tighting the rotation but then playing Temple alot in the same breath. He should be nowhere near the rotation

[Dat2U]

In a perfect world, Maynor would have only received camp invite this summer and would already have been cut.

[Ruzious]

In a perfect world, Maynor would have only received camp invite this summer and would already have been cut.

It's the second year that really is just inexplicable. Why they gave him a 2.1 million dollar player option for the second year - which could easily end up limiting what they can do next offseason,,, I can't get my arms around what in the wild world of sports they were thinking. The Webster signing was clearly over-paying, but at least I could see what they were thinking. The Maynor 2nd year... I can't... see what they were thinking.

[miller31time]

In a perfect world, Maynor would have only received camp invite this summer and would already have been cut.

In a perfect world, Ernie Grunfeld wouldn't have the power to manage a professional sports team.

[DCZards]

I see a lot of you are overthinking and overreacting to Rice not playing. There could have been any number of reasons for that. Coaches try and do different thing for different reasons during preseason, including a player's health. Remember, these games don't count.

[dlts20]

I see a lot of you are overthinking and overreacting to Rice not playing. There could have been any number of reasons for that. Coaches try and do different thing for different reasons during preseason, including a player's health. Remember, these games don't count.

again, that just explains why he should be playing. Not the other way around. If he's hurt then thats one thing but if not then he should play over Temple, period. You guys keep saying that its just the Preseason like thats the reason why Witt can do anything he wants. Thats backwards thinking to me. The Preseason is the biggest time for him to get these minutes. I wont trust him in the regular season if he cant play well in the Preseason. Its not like he's a seasoned vet who doesnt need many minutes. He needs all he can get, now. Again, Im not complaining if he's benched for guys like Porter or Webester but Garrett Temple? No way

[pancakes3]

Judging based on the box score, we lost a close game where Beal just went bananas and Wall had a typical above-average game. We couldn't get production out of the SF position and didn't even try to use any low post options. If Beal played had a more typical performance where he didn't go for 30 pts on 75% shooting, we would have lost by double-digits easily.

I don't think the finger of blame goes to Wall or Beal despite their many, many turnovers. It's much more complex than that. It goes to how this team is constructed and how our offense is going to execute. If we're going to be a Wall-driving-then-looking-for-the-kickout Derrick-Rose type offense, the SF's can't go 6-18, and definitely can't have 6 TO's. I'm curious to see just how Web-Riza managed to turn it over so much in their catch-and-shoot role.

It is encouraging to see how strong Seraphin and Vesely's rebounding has been this preseason. Ves is really pushing the offensive boards though, but at least it's progress.