Otto Porter

Durins Baynes · Post #421 » by **Durins Baynes** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:13 pm

Telling players to model themselves after unrealistic players is how players end up broken- like Steve Francis or Blatche or Jamal Crawford or Nick Young or JaVale McGee or Al Harrington. Al Harrington for example could have been a great 6th man his whole career, but he insisted he was an all-star, and kept getting moved from teams who tired of his antics. Don Nelson and George Karl both had words to the same effect about him- "I think he's a good player, he thinks he's a star. I hope he figures it out".

That's one thing the Spurs excel at. Figuring out a guys role and making him excel at that role, and not go outside it. For Otto Porter to think he's anything remotely like Durant is a recipe for disaster.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #422 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:35 am

Durins Baynes wrote:Telling players to model themselves after unrealistic players is how players end up broken- like Steve Francis or Blatche or Jamal Crawford or Nick Young or JaVale McGee or Al Harrington. Al Harrington for example could have been a great 6th man his whole career, but he insisted he was an all-star, and kept getting moved from teams who tired of his antics. Don Nelson and George Karl both had words to the same effect about him- "I think he's a good player, he thinks he's a star. I hope he figures it out".

That's one thing the Spurs excel at. Figuring out a guys role and making him excel at that role, and not go outside it. For Otto Porter to think he's anything remotely like Durant is a recipe for disaster.

I think you're reading way too far into some comments he made to Bill Simmons in a pre-draft media interview.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #423 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:46 am

Upper Decker wrote:Otto Porter is to Durant as N1 is to Kobe Bryant. Both Porter and Durant are tall and skinny, but that's were the comparison ends because Durant is longer and taller and is one of the top 10 shooters in NBA history. He's a top 30 player all time. Porter is closer to Calbert Cheaney than he is to Durant. Durant can get away with be average athletically because he is the best shooter in the game today, probably has the quickest release I've ever seen, and can shoot over anyone. If Durant was simply an above average shooter would his career be any different than Al Harringtons?

Durant's a truly great shooter, but you're overselling his shooting ability. He's not the best shooter in the NBA. I would, however, agree that he's the most valuable great shooter in the NBA. He's the second most valuable player in the NBA period, and the only guy more valuable than him is LeBron, who is not a great shooter.

A lot of what makes Durant special comes from his size. There are a handful of guys who are better shooters than Durant, many of whom are not great players like Jose Calderon and Kyle Korver. But among the great players, Steph Curry, Steve Nash, and Ray Allen for example. Demonstrably better shooters than Durant. What makes Durant a better player than them overall is that he's 6'10 and also an excellent rebounder and defender and he's a tremendous inside scorer whereas those guys are not.

Post #424 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:37 am

Meh. To call anyone a demonstrably better shooter than Durant doesn't pass the smell test. Granted, he's a multi-talented superstar, but shooting is his number 1 attribute, imo.

jivelikenice · Post #425 » by **jivelikenice** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:48 am

Otto's role may be bigger than we anticipate early on. This team needs a some reliable productivity from the bench and nobody has stepped up outside of Al. Our box scores have contribution from less than a handful of players and you can't consistently win with that.

hands11 · Post #426 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:43 am

Otto update coming Monday

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #427 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:15 am

hands11 wrote:Otto update coming Monday

That does not sound promising.

dlts20 · Post #428 » by **dlts20** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:01 pm

The Porter injury sucks. I actually think he couldve been the starter, if not now then very early. Its clear that Witt was looking to bring Web off the bench to have a reliable scorer since he thinks Wall, Beal, & Nene could hold down the O. The problem is that Ariza and the other starter have been terrible on Offense. So much so that I think if they thought Ariza wasnt getting it done, then they would give Porter a look because they wanna keep Webster off the bench for now. Now that thinking is over. Even if Porter came back soon, he's probably out of shape and way behind. There is nothing worst then being injuried early as a rookie. You usually end up spedning the whole season trying to catchup

nashtymvp · Post #429 » by **nashtymvp** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:24 pm

otto porter needs to play the 4

hands11 · Post #430 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:04 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
hands11 wrote:Otto update coming Monday

That does not sound promising.

What you say that ?

They are back in Washington. Doctor are going to look him over and Randy should be able to answer the "what news do you have on Otto" question during pregame.

This is what they said he had

http://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/libra ... endonitis/

The length of recovery depends on many factors such as your age, health, and if you have had a previous hip flexor injury. Recovery time also depends on the severity of the injury. A mild hip flexor strain may recover within a few weeks, whereas a severe injury may take 6 weeks or longer to recover. You need to stop doing the activities that cause pain until the hip has healed. If you continue doing activities that cause pain, your symptoms will return and it will take longer to recover.

When can I return to my normal activities?

Everyone recovers from an injury at a different rate. Return to your activities depends on how soon your hip recovers, not by how many days or weeks it has been since your injury has occurred. In general, the longer you have symptoms before you start treatment, the longer it will take to get better. The goal is to return to your normal activities as soon as is safely possible. If you return too soon you may worsen your injury.

You may safely return to your activities when, starting from the top of the list and progressing to the end, each of the following is true:

You have full range of motion in the leg on the injured side compared to the leg on the uninjured side.
You have full strength of the leg on the injured side compared to the leg on the uninjured side.
You can walk straight ahead without pain or limping.

hands11 · Post #431 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:56 pm

dlts20 wrote:The Porter injury sucks. I actually think he couldve been the starter, if not now then very early. Its clear that Witt was looking to bring Web off the bench to have a reliable scorer since he thinks Wall, Beal, & Nene could hold down the O. The problem is that Ariza and the other starter have been terrible on Offense. So much so that I think if they thought Ariza wasnt getting it done, then they would give Porter a look because they wanna keep Webster off the bench for now. Now that thinking is over. Even if Porter came back soon, he's probably out of shape and way behind. There is nothing worst then being injuried early as a rookie. You usually end up spedning the whole season trying to catchup

Agreed. Otto never even got out of the gate. First he was injured in summer league and then he never even made it on the floor during camp.

About the only thing he can do that will help is learn the language, concepts, watch of film and do very proactive with mental reps when watching games. Mental reps help a good bit if done right. Mental referral and visualization is something even healthy players should do to get better.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGKkmpbhv9k[/youtube]

On a more serious note. This is what I was getting at.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD06AfbmFlY[/youtube]

Nivek · Post #432 » by **Nivek** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:20 pm

nashtymvp wrote:otto porter needs to play the 4

Why?

GhostsOfGil · Post #433 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:57 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
hands11 wrote:Otto update coming Monday

That does not sound promising.

"Just to make sure nothing is out of whack," Porter said. "It still hurts. I've got to heal. It's not healed yet. That's the only thing keeping me from getting out there on the court. I just got to rest and take time to heal."

Sounds like he's still a few weeks away. If Noel plays a game before Porter, I will be one sad dude.

Benjammin · Post #434 » by **Benjammin** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:45 pm

Given Boulez/Wiz history, it's feeling like a wasted season for Porter coming up. I hope I'm wrong. Silver lining, they have their pick in 2014 and somehow, someway Leonsis gets a clue and gives EFG a one-way plane ticket to Bucharest.

Post #435 » by **Rafael122** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:55 pm

He probably tore his hip flexor, probably a similar injury to Landry.

nuposse04 · Post #436 » by **nuposse04** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:28 pm

Rafael122 wrote:He probably tore his hip flexor, probably a similar injury to Landry.

I think they should be competent enough to notice some thing that serious. A bad hip flexor injury can take 6 weeks to heal so his delay isn't something completely novel. Now if he doesn't return before Noel I will be vexed, terribly vexed

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BruceO · Post #437 » by **BruceO** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:07 am

nuposse04 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:He probably tore his hip flexor, probably a similar injury to Landry.

I think they should be competent enough to notice some thing that serious. A bad hip flexor injury can take 6 weeks to heal so his delay isn't something completely novel. Now if he doesn't return before Noel I will be vexed, terribly vexed

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I would be vexed too considering noel is supposedly out for the season riding around in a tank with Philly plates

Bijan · Post #438 » by **Bijan** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:58 pm

I thought Otto was supposed to have gotten an official checkup with team doctors yesterday. Figured there would be an update right now but I haven't seen any. Beat writers are sleeping?

FreeBalling · Post #439 » by **FreeBalling** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:54 am

It would be nice to see Porter play. He's so far behind now. I wonder if he plays this season.

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hands11 · Post #440 » by **hands11** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:49 pm

Bijan wrote:I thought Otto was supposed to have gotten an official checkup with team doctors yesterday. Figured there would be an update right now but I haven't seen any. Beat writers are sleeping?

Randy was asked yesterday. He said Otto and Singleton are visit doctors this week.

Maybe they went yesterday. Maybe they are going today.

Sounds like we should know by Wed or Thursday.