writersblock wrote:Well, Fran, you can be grateful for Landry going down for 4 months, because that's the reason I accepted the trade offer. Thompson's value goes above and beyond what I would have been getting with Gibson (who does well in the preseason, but doesn't get enough time in the regular season to make enough of a difference).
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fran, are you saying Carl is injury prone? at any rate none of what you are saying seems to have anything to do with my point: the earlier the draft the larger the luck factor. that's just completely obvious.
as for the impact, I don't think you can say Carl wasn't a significant loss because of where he was drafted. it altered bbm projections enough that they dropped my team from 2nd to 5th in their projected standings.
as for the impact, I don't think you can say Carl wasn't a significant loss because of where he was drafted. it altered bbm projections enough that they dropped my team from 2nd to 5th in their projected standings.
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btw bbm is not God and its not 100% right cause if it was it would be $24.99
Imo patterson always fit better than landry
+ Landry would have JT that have 75% of starting games in sac and + 3 year contract
unless if they trade him landry would get more than 22.5mpg
Imo patterson always fit better than landry
+ Landry would have JT that have 75% of starting games in sac and + 3 year contract
unless if they trade him landry would get more than 22.5mpg

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can someone aprove the trade for God sake its preseason
no one going to benefit for the quick aproval
i already wrote blake on the 14th but he doesn´t have a internet connection
if the trade is fair why wait 48h in the preseason
no one going to benefit for the quick aproval
i already wrote blake on the 14th but he doesn´t have a internet connection
if the trade is fair why wait 48h in the preseason

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fraanciiscoo wrote:btw bbm is not God
Who said it was? What it is, is a neutral source. I drafted Landry before they released their projections. So it's not like I picked Landry because he was some BBM outlier. I drafted him, and a neutral source indicates his loss is going to have a significant impact on my team. They could be overestimating his impact. Equally likely is that they are *underestimating* the impact of the loss.
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fraanciiscoo wrote:can someone aprove the trade for God sake its preseason
no one going to benefit for the quick aproval
i already wrote blake on the 14th but he doesn´t have a internet connection
if the trade is fair why wait 48h in the preseason
What's the hurry?
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bww78 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:can someone aprove the trade for God sake its preseason
no one going to benefit for the quick aproval
i already wrote blake on the 14th but he doesn´t have a internet connection
if the trade is fair why wait 48h in the preseason
What's the hurry?
you will understand in less than 24h

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fraanciiscoo wrote:bww78 wrote:fraanciiscoo wrote:can someone aprove the trade for God sake its preseason
no one going to benefit for the quick aproval
i already wrote blake on the 14th but he doesn´t have a internet connection
if the trade is fair why wait 48h in the preseason
What's the hurry?
you will understand in less than 24h
He's going to drop the scrub and grab a free agent. Hmm wonder if I can beat him to him.
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trade to announce already accepted
I get
MCW
R. Jackson
Jazz gets
jrue
w.bynum
I get
MCW
R. Jackson
Jazz gets
jrue
w.bynum

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Yup. Both MCW and Jackson were looking like good picks, but, I felt the chance to consolidate talent was too good to pass up.
Now I finally have a slot to mine the waiver wire with.
Now I finally have a slot to mine the waiver wire with.
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A trade in which Jazzfan gets the far better side & fran gets screwed? The end is near my friends, the end is near.
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its was a good trade for both
jrue wouldnt help my team
1.6 stl not worthy cause i m tanking stl
8,0 ast not worthy cause i didnt had other pg
.430 fg% would kill my fg% with 17fga per game
.750 w/ 4.4fta per game wouldnt help my Ft either
tryed to trade him but to who?
vucevic
wb wanted gibson + jrue and i wouldnt trade gibson what so ever
sabonis offer no pfc sexy to have pfc with 2.6 3pts per game but i thought it was too lilte to give him the dominant in G
wes offer for me is perfect
rjackson have great % w/ westbrook out 4 week at least getting 30mpg+ after that 6man i can leave with that since i m tanking G cats to the G team and have a strong enought team to beat PFC teams in the G cats
MCW is locked to get +30mpg per night and if his fg is not sexy his ability to reb and ast might be a good thing for my team but i opent to trade him
jrue wouldnt help my team
1.6 stl not worthy cause i m tanking stl
8,0 ast not worthy cause i didnt had other pg
.430 fg% would kill my fg% with 17fga per game
.750 w/ 4.4fta per game wouldnt help my Ft either
tryed to trade him but to who?
vucevic
wb wanted gibson + jrue and i wouldnt trade gibson what so ever
sabonis offer no pfc sexy to have pfc with 2.6 3pts per game but i thought it was too lilte to give him the dominant in G
wes offer for me is perfect
rjackson have great % w/ westbrook out 4 week at least getting 30mpg+ after that 6man i can leave with that since i m tanking G cats to the G team and have a strong enought team to beat PFC teams in the G cats
MCW is locked to get +30mpg per night and if his fg is not sexy his ability to reb and ast might be a good thing for my team but i opent to trade him

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Nice deal. Im confused how you go from trying to convince me to trade ibaka for jrue to trading for those 2
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and he was trying to get Ryan Anderson from me. Fran has way too much time in his hands, I think he sent offers to all 19 other managers lol.
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So I'm a little confused Fran, if Jrue didn't fit your team, especially for his Fg%, why trade for him in this deal:
Jrue/Gibson from me
For Lawson and Jason Thompson?
Ty has a better Fg % and fits your team better. If it was just for Gibson, we could've done a smaller deal.
Jrue/Gibson from me
For Lawson and Jason Thompson?
Ty has a better Fg % and fits your team better. If it was just for Gibson, we could've done a smaller deal.
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sabonis wrote:and he was trying to get Ryan Anderson from me. Fran has way too much time in his hands, I think he sent offers to all 19 other managers lol.
He asked about Love for Jrue + other considerations. I couldn't think of anything that would work.
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writersblock wrote:So I'm a little confused Fran, if Jrue didn't fit your team, especially for his Fg%, why trade for him in this deal:
Jrue/Gibson from me
For Lawson and Jason Thompson?
Ty has a better Fg % and fits your team better. If it was just for Gibson, we could've done a smaller deal.
easy
1st
I wanted Gibson !!! for the 1st time he looks like he gain pounds he look stronger and his harms doesn´t look more like a Hs kid !!! He will be getting close to 30mpg and if noah and boozer miss some games ...
2nd last year lawson Ft% took a big hit i wanted to wait and see if it was something only last season but the games i watched outch his FT mecanics look horrible that explain he is shooting 53% this pre season !! Yes he is better than that but i expect to be wrost than th3 75% of last season with almost 5fta per game
3rd also what does jt do? if landry didnt went down for 3/4 month the answer would be sit on the bench or get traded! well now he will get pt for 3/4m but what does he really give? 6/8pts 5/7reb with decent Fg% no blk no stl no ast horrible FT bad to ty for taking him out of my hands i was going to droop him
4th i knew i could ship jrue to others teams that had 1/2 or 3 pg and small ball strategy. The 1st option was to get a pf/c but since a few gm here 2 in love with their team well so in love that they say :
5. Time Lords: Look, anyone who doesn’t think their team is going to compete for a playoff spot, and shoot for a championship before anyone has even played a game (at least in the regular season, preseason is a mirage), obviously didn’t do something right. Of course I think my team will be strong, I drafted it. ☺. But I don’t think I’m top 3 because my %s are pretty bad, and I’ve already ditched TOs and Blocks. It could take some real luck, or a well-timed trade or waiver add to push myself into the top 3. My trade with Skai, I think, puts my chances to get top 4 within reach. I obviously think higher of my lower end guys than most people do, including Fournier, Rush, Stephenson, Gibson, and Hansbrough. If they flame out, then my team will probably flame out with them, but I think they’ll do much better than most people in this league think. That being said, I am the absolute worst team in TOs and probably blocks. So there’s that.
so i decided to get two pg one that fits the other i dont know going to watch some philly games and then decide to keep him or trade him

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Looks like Fraan and I are best trading buddies this year. I drafted MCW and I liked him for my deck. Didn't really want to give him up in our last deal, but, I figured I had to give Fraan a replacement PG.
Fraan came back at me with Korver for MCW. Now, Korver has a ton more value than MCW in my mind. He was a top 50 player last season and there is no reason to think he'll be less this year. But, I'm not really trying to win the percentages or turnovers very hard so mostly he was just a source of 3s for me. Where MCW can help me in a few different areas.
But, still the value was off. So, I pushed for a bit more and got the McBob for Bynum part added. It helps balance my roster a bit and I think McBob is a more valuable player than Bynum. Plus he's been known to hit a 3 now and then so it'll soften the blow of losing Korver a small amount.
Anyway, I now have 3 pgs, right where I was hoping to end up. Holiday, Lowry, and MCW.
Fraan came back at me with Korver for MCW. Now, Korver has a ton more value than MCW in my mind. He was a top 50 player last season and there is no reason to think he'll be less this year. But, I'm not really trying to win the percentages or turnovers very hard so mostly he was just a source of 3s for me. Where MCW can help me in a few different areas.
But, still the value was off. So, I pushed for a bit more and got the McBob for Bynum part added. It helps balance my roster a bit and I think McBob is a more valuable player than Bynum. Plus he's been known to hit a 3 now and then so it'll soften the blow of losing Korver a small amount.
Anyway, I now have 3 pgs, right where I was hoping to end up. Holiday, Lowry, and MCW.
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jazzfan1971 wrote:Looks like Fraan and I are best trading buddies this year. I drafted MCW and I liked him for my deck. Didn't really want to give him up in our last deal, but, I figured I had to give Fraan a replacement PG.
Fraan came back at me with Korver for MCW. Now, Korver has a ton more value than MCW in my mind. He was a top 50 player last season and there is no reason to think he'll be less this year. But, I'm not really trying to win the percentages or turnovers very hard so mostly he was just a source of 3s for me. Where MCW can help me in a few different areas.
But, still the value was off. So, I pushed for a bit more and got the McBob for Bynum part added. It helps balance my roster a bit and I think McBob is a more valuable player than Bynum. Plus he's been known to hit a 3 now and then so it'll soften the blow of losing Korver a small amount.
Anyway, I now have 3 pgs, right where I was hoping to end up. Holiday, Lowry, and MCW.
So much for that. I was interested in Korver and messaged you days ago. I am interested in MCW though. What's the best way to reach you?
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