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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#341 » by Nivek » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:50 pm

DCZards wrote:
Nivek wrote:
And to DCZards point -- I (and several other posters) named names at the time when the Wizards made the OkAriza trade. Not much point in re-re-re-digging out the list at this point.


I remember that list, Nivek. And, quite frankly, it was pretty weak.


I obviously disagree with that assessment. :D
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#342 » by Dat2U » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:57 pm

DCZards wrote:
Nivek wrote:
And to DCZards point -- I (and several other posters) named names at the time when the Wizards made the OkAriza trade. Not much point in re-re-re-digging out the list at this point.


I remember that list, Nivek. And, quite frankly, it was pretty weak.


Like most of your arguments which you use and reuse time after time.

Your posts are like puzzle pieces for a popular kid's game. You can see how the pieces fit before the puzzle is taken out the box because everyone has played the game countless times before.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#343 » by MJG » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:51 pm

I'm lowering my prediction for a second time, dropping it from 36 wins to 33, which I'll probably stick with as my final. I don't have any on-court reason for this drop; rather, thinking back on my previous predictions over the years, I've found that I often wind up guessing 3-5 wins over the actual total, so this is my attempt to account for that.

The worst part is that as disappointing as 33 wins would be, it would still be our best finish in six years. Go EG!
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#344 » by DCZards » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:09 pm

Dat2U wrote:Like most of your arguments which you use and reuse time after time.

Your posts are like puzzle pieces for a popular kid's game. You can see how the pieces fit before the puzzle is taken out the box because everyone has played the game countless times before.


Dat, isn't it time to stop the personal attacks and address the substance of my argument? Your act is getting old.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#345 » by Dark Faze » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:14 pm

I'd say 38 wins.

We went 29-53 with a start of 5-28 until Wall got back. We were about .500 when healthy from that point on. Then we lost the last 6 games of the season due to tanking/injury when we started sitting everyone.

Even with some injuries I can't imagine us not winning 10 more games than last years team.
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Post#346 » by tontoz » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:22 pm

On a more positive note they should break that magical 30 win barrier. The 9th seed should also be within reach.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#347 » by Dat2U » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:01 pm

DCZards wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Like most of your arguments which you use and reuse time after time.

Your posts are like puzzle pieces for a popular kid's game. You can see how the pieces fit before the puzzle is taken out the box because everyone has played the game countless times before.


Dat, isn't it time to stop the personal attacks and address the substance of my argument? Your act is getting old.


Isn't time to stop using copy & paste for your posts and actually make an argument of substance for once? I see nothing personal about questioning the arguments you continually make.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#348 » by hands11 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:38 pm

Holding firm until I get all the evidence in. No reason to keep adjusting.

That Miami game was the first glimpse at what they can do. I expect better.

Still want to see them do well with Nene and Maynor in there. And I want to hear something about Otto's return.

Glad to see Booker looked healthy. Gotta monitor that. Booker is actually really important without Okafor ready. Plus need to see more Ves staying active. And more AH. And Glen. Wall I'm less concerned about but I want to see a break out game like Beal had. Sure he is feeling like he wants to get there now that Beal did.

Just a lot to still get evaluated.

Ves and Booker just might be able to do enough to cover for Okafor is we have more offense in AH, Beal, Wall and Glen. If that's true, Kevin finding his inner beast become less important. It didn't look that way two weeks ago.

Really good to see Trevor A play better. That was also really important but Nate pointed out that Trev A can be a little lame during preseason. I think it being Miami at home got him up for the game.
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Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#349 » by closg00 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:08 pm

Small-ball will be a temporary band-aid for non-Nene/Okafor lineups, teams will adjust their defenses accordingly. Coach Witt will have to do some brilliant coaching on-the-fly do get the W's this year.


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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#350 » by Joe_Wiz » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:40 am

43-39, because they basically played .500 ball the 2nd half last year, and because Daniel Gilbert persuaded me that being unrealistically optimistic makes one happier.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#351 » by willbcocks » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:33 pm

I'm going with 40-42. I think they will improve a lot over last year. Beal in particular. Wall will play well, but not all-nba level. Our injured front court will hurt badly, and Porter will be too young too contribute much in the win column.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#352 » by hands11 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:16 pm

Man, I hate to write this but.. they really could benefit from another tank year :lol:

I just don't understand how we didn't walk from this draft with one of the 20 centers that were in it.

Even if you didn't use the top pick on someone like Len, why not grab a Witney or Colton Iverson ? Was glen really that important that we couldn't work around not having him or find a way to do both?

I don't hate all things EG like some. He has done some things really well. But then he counteracts the good with other moves. Mostly the smaller ones (expect for the Ves pick at #6)

Its things like not bringing back Mason last year but keeping C Martin instead.
Not drafting T Harris or Faried in 2011 with the 2nd first pick over Singleton and getting Mack in the 2nd This years its not getting at a min a backup quality center to back up Okafor. That was a priority going into the draft in my book and almost all my draft combination had us walking with one. The 2nd round of this draft had a ton of targets I would have liked to see on the team.

I would have even bought a late first to do it if they wanted Glen so much.

This last draft was like the 2011 draft, it was loaded with players. Maybe not top All Stars like KD though VO should shine, but there was a ton of rotation talent and he didn't maximize the opportunity, again.

I want better then that from a GM. You can't miss out of the small details. I was fine with Ted keeping him after taking over the team and even understood him extending him two years. But its time to move on when his contract expires. It would be a clean break.

I just hope whoever we get next is someone we like.

I can understand why people are lowing their projections into the 37 win range. Something just doesn't feel right.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#353 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:43 pm

hands11 wrote:Man, I hate to write this but.. they really could benefit from another tank year :lol:

I just don't understand how we didn't walk from this draft with one of the 20 centers that were in it.

Even if you didn't use the top pick on someone like Len, why not grab a Witney or Colton Iverson ? Was glen really that important that we couldn't work around not having him or find a way to do both?

I don't hate all things EG like some. He has done some things really well. But then he counteracts the good with other moves. Mostly the smaller ones (expect for the Ves pick at #6)

Its things like not bringing back Mason last year but keeping C Martin instead.
Not drafting T Harris or Faried in 2011 with the 2nd first pick over Singleton and getting Mack in the 2nd This years its not getting at a min a backup quality center to back up Okafor. That was a priority going into the draft in my book and almost all my draft combination had us walking with one. The 2nd round of this draft had a ton of targets I would have liked to see on the team.

I would have even bought a late first to do it if they wanted Glen so much.

This last draft was like the 2011 draft, it was loaded with players. Maybe not top All Stars like KD though VO should shine, but there was a ton of rotation talent and he didn't maximize the opportunity, again.

I want better then that from a GM. You can't miss out of the small details. I was fine with Ted keeping him after taking over the team and even understood him extending him two years. But its time to move on when his contract expires. It would be a clean break.

I just hope whoever we get next is someone we like.

I can understand why people are lowing their projections into the 37 win range. Something just doesn't feel right.

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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#354 » by tontoz » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:37 pm

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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#355 » by Upper Decker » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:23 pm

hands11 wrote:Man, I hate to write this but.. they really could benefit from another tank year :lol:

I just don't understand how we didn't walk from this draft with one of the 20 centers that were in it.

Even if you didn't use the top pick on someone like Len, why not grab a Witney or Colton Iverson ? Was glen really that important that we couldn't work around not having him or find a way to do both?

I don't hate all things EG like some. He has done some things really well. But then he counteracts the good with other moves. Mostly the smaller ones (expect for the Ves pick at #6)

Its things like not bringing back Mason last year but keeping C Martin instead.
Not drafting T Harris or Faried in 2011 with the 2nd first pick over Singleton and getting Mack in the 2nd This years its not getting at a min a backup quality center to back up Okafor. That was a priority going into the draft in my book and almost all my draft combination had us walking with one. The 2nd round of this draft had a ton of targets I would have liked to see on the team.

I would have even bought a late first to do it if they wanted Glen so much.

This last draft was like the 2011 draft, it was loaded with players. Maybe not top All Stars like KD though VO should shine, but there was a ton of rotation talent and he didn't maximize the opportunity, again.

I want better then that from a GM. You can't miss out of the small details. I was fine with Ted keeping him after taking over the team and even understood him extending him two years. But its time to move on when his contract expires. It would be a clean break.

I just hope whoever we get next is someone we like.

I can understand why people are lowing their projections into the 37 win range. Something just doesn't feel right.

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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#356 » by Upper Decker » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:16 pm

Just updated the prediction log of accountability, hopefully things are accurate. If you disagree please repost and adjust your win total.

82 - WizardsWorld, daSwami
56 - jeffsays
53 -
52 - Chaos Revenant
51 - Wizardspride, nupose04
50 - JWizmentality, nuposse04
49 - AFM, barelyawake
48 -
47 - The Consiglieri, TwentyOne920, zardsfan, jimij, CntOutSmrtCrazy
46 - Jimmy (for the) Recard, sfam, CaPtaiN eYeSaNo
45 - Rafael122, Fischella, Deeptu McPullup, hands11, Chocolate City Jordanaire
44 - dangermouse, nate33, gesa2, montestewart, TheKingOfVa360
43 - Wallbeliever, Higga, FreeBalling, BarnabyJones, Joe_Wiz
42 - miller31time, TheBabyMaker, stevemcqueen1, barelyawake
41 - long suffrin' boulez fan, sashae
40 - Zonkerbl, The Fax, pineappleheadindc, DaRealHibachi, willbcocks
39 - DCKingsFan
38 - Ruzious, Dark Faze
37 - Earth2Ted, Keynote, The Consiglieri, SUPERBALLMAN
36 - truwizfan4evr, verbal8
35 - FAH1223, AnotherFinn, BigA, GhostsOfGil, dandridge 10
34 - TGW
33 - Closg00, MJG
32 - queridiculo
31 - Floater, Dat2U
30 - Knighthonor
27 - Upper Decker, Induveca

Offensive Rating

106 - TwentyOne920
105 - FreeBalling
101 - DCKingsFan

Defensive Rating

104 - TwentyOne920
102 - DCKingsFan has
101 - FreeBalling
86 - hands11

Wall Makes the AllStar Squad

Yes - Higga, stevemcqueen1, dangermouse
No - DCKingsfan
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#357 » by gesa2 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:30 am

I'm dropping my prediction to 38, and that's feeling optimistic. If we can't stop people at the rim we can't win.

(post Gortat trade, increased back to 44 - edited for ease of aggregating data)
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#358 » by SizzlinSimms » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:26 am

Hard to say right now. It is going to hover around .500. The give or take 5 or so wins is going to factor where we make the playoffs, if at all. I do believe this is a playoff team, but there are a lot of questions. And I mean A LOT of questions.

The front court scares the hell out of me. This to me is our make or break. Without Okafor and a formidable defensive caliber player in the front court I think the Wizards are going to be abused in rebounds by any team with decent big men. Vesley tries but sadly it's not there. He was a wasted draft pick on an athletic kid that will never become a decent NBA player. Nene's attitude is extremely worrisome along with his nagging injuries. I wouldn't mind seeing him traded out (which will be difficult). Al Harrington sadly, and I mean sadly, might be our grace here. If he can return to a decent form and is able to hit outside shots that will be a great asset. Seraphin can be a good offensive center. He's horrible defensively, but at least he can add points from a post position. A lot of the season hinges on how long it takes Okafor to recovery, how he plays when back, and if the other players can hold off till then.

Wall & Beal is our team, but they aren't the main factor. They'll win us games whenever one or both get hot, however as I've said right above it's the role players that are our main factor for the season. I BEALieve in Beal and think he'll lead our team in scoring this season with anywhere from 18-20ppg, and might possibly be a candidate for Most Improved Player. Wall will continue to improve. I don't think he'll consistently play at that level we saw for a moment of time, but I'd expect anywhere from 16-18ppg and 8+ assists. Wall also doesn't seem like the score first type PG. He's willing to dish it off to an open Beal or another player. Wall can be an all-star this season and I hope he does make the transition. He has all the potential to be. These two are what is making this season so exciting to watch. They'll be one of the most exciting back courts in the NBA (and hopefully for years to come).

Webster is scaring me. If he's a one season wonder, eh that's not promising. Especially after that contract. I'm assuming Ariza is going to start the season opener for defense and since Porter is hurt. I know Simmons and others have said the only reason we resigned Webster was because he's represented by the same agent as Wall. It sucks because other players that are far more proven such as Korver signed for the same amount or less. Ariza is whatever and I'm glad he's out after this season. I wish we could flip him for something but GM Ernie scares the hell out of me so I guess I'd rather him stay put.

I don't watch college basketball often and didn't see any Otto Porter games. I watched some youtube highlights, which is a horrible indicator, because obviously they are highlights and don't show you the lowlights! Simmons and Rose have him pinned as a possible bust. The summer league games apparently didn't help Porter's cause either. I'm not going to comment so much on him since I haven't had the chance to watch him yet. Let us hope he's like Beal and takes a month or so to get accustomed and then shows his worth.

Another thing I'm not too knowledgeable about is coaching and rotations, so I can't comment too much on Wittman. I know the players like him and want to buy into his coaching, but there are times where I don't feel he's the right coach. I'm sad Dave Joerger got promoted at Memphis as I think he might be the next Thibs.

Lastly, the final thing that scares me is GM Ernie. It's his final season on his contract. You know if the Wizards start out bad and hover around the 10th-8th seed he's going to pull a panic trade. We know Ernie's track record with this. If it pans out and the Wizards make the playoffs does he get an extension? If it doesn't and it ends up screwing us in the future then curse Ernie, but he shouldn't care because he won't be with the team anyway.

With all this being said I predict the Wizards finish with 38 to 40 wins. Enough to put the Wizards in a tight battle for 7th or 8th seed.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '13-'14 season. 

Post#359 » by nuposse04 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:43 am

If Wall doesn't improve his shot selection I might have to drop down from 51 to say.......45. I hope he's just dickin around this preseason. Yeah I gotta go with 45.
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Post#360 » by deneem4 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:12 am

I say 57..
beal will average a minimum of 20 a game...I say 22ppg...stats line of 22/6rbs/3a
Wall will average maybe 22ppg statline 20/10a/5rb/2s/ 1.3blks/7fta

I predict wall will be an allstar,
I predict beal will be fighting for a reserve spot
I predict we make a frontcourt trade, with a certain big man leaving
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