Trade Thread (REVENGE OF THE NERDS II: NERDS IN PARADISE)

[old rem]

I don't see Seth beating out Nedovic.

Well...the commitment of picking Nedovic as a RD 1...even a late one...likely puts him on the roster but that won't say Set does not also make the cut. If both are on the roster...then it boils down to what you are and what you do. In those pre-season games...so little got shown it's inconcusive. Based on Nedovic in Euroball and Seth in College...I see a bit of edge for Seth. He at least is a pretty good shooter. Nedovic...I guess...has stuff that got him drafted but I have not seen it "eyeball" and the stats I saw don't tell me much either way. It seems it gets decided on the floor...but then it's hard to find them quality minutes. GSW also has a battle with Kuzmic and Dedmon and....so there's several candidates for the last couple of spots.

[Left*My*Heart]

Nedovic for sure and I say Dedmon gets the last slot at 15. Need big men more than another tweener guard that lacks size for the 2 and doesn't have the other tangibles to play the point.

[RoyalMajesty]

If Toney Douglas or Nemanja Nedovic can't be able to pick up the slack at the backup PG position, the Warriors should take a look at Nando de Colo from the Spurs. A 6-5 guard that can play some PG. He's not a bad shooter either so that's a plus.

[ChuckDurn]

If Toney Douglas or Nemanja Nedovic can't be able to pick up the slack at the backup PG position, the Warriors should take a look at Nando de Colo from the Spurs. A 6-5 guard that can play some PG. He's not a bad shooter either so that's a plus.

Why does San Antonio trade him, and what do you think we'd have to give up? Pretty sure the answers are "because San Antonio wants a lot more back than we're willing / capable of giving up."

[rcfc1]

So in the ESPN Warrior's Forecast, several posters were saying they think D.Lee will be traded at some point as an odd man out in our floor-spacing schemes right now (they also neglected to mention new defensive mindset). Other posters also said that paying AI indicates that we're going to lose either Klay or Barnes.

Assuming that's true, who do we target?

My first thought was wondering if we could make a run at Greg Monroe with Lee. My second worry is that, right now, the money doesn't match unless we take some combo of Charlie V/Stuckey (plus tweak fillers). But they're on the end of their contracts, and Detroit probably wants to use them for wiser purposes (e.g., trading for better value, or letting them expire to make runs at 2014 FAs). My first, and bigger worry, is that they laugh at us.

Who do you think will take Lee? Do we know any GMs that seem to love the guy? Who are the sucker GMs now and do they have anything we want?

[Left*My*Heart]

So in the ESPN Warrior's Forecast, several posters were saying they think D.Lee will be traded at some point as an odd man out in our floor-spacing schemes right now (they also neglected to mention new defensive mindset). Other posters also said that paying AI indicates that we're going to lose either Klay or Barnes.

Assuming that's true, who do we target?

My first thought was wondering if we could make a run at Greg Monroe with Lee. My second worry is that, right now, the money doesn't match unless we take some combo of Charlie V/Stuckey (plus tweak fillers). But they're on the end of their contracts, and Detroit probably wants to use them for wiser purposes (e.g., trading for better value, or letting them expire to make runs at 2014 FAs). My first, and bigger worry, is that they laugh at us.

Who do you think will take Lee? Do we know any GMs that seem to love the guy? Who are the sucker GMs now and do they have anything we want?

I think the front office shopped him around this off season and discovered they couldn't get anything of value in return for Lee, unless they included Klay or Barnes or both. If the Warriors trade Lee, I would want a PF that is capable of stretching the floor and Monroe is not that player. We would also probably be taking in a lot of weight/garbage to unload him as well. This roster is the first in sometime where we don't have those type of dead weights.

I think Lee is a Warrior at least through this season, unless some GM out there has different ideas.

Even before the Dre trade, the odds of keeping our top 5 players together for the long run was remote.

[rcfc1]

I think the front office shopped him around this off season and discovered they couldn't get anything of value in return for Lee, unless they included Klay or Barnes or both. If the Warriors trade Lee, I would want a PF that is capable of stretching the floor and Monroe is not that player. We would also probably be taking in a lot of weight/garbage to unload him as well. This roster is the first in sometime where we don't have those type of dead weights.

I think Lee is a Warrior at least through this season, unless some GM out there has different ideas.

Even before the Dre trade, the odds of keeping our top 5 players together for the long run was remote.

So who are those stretch 4's? Ryan Anderson? Ilyasova? Those are the only guys I can think of that we could really run at with Lee. Maybe love if we threw in Barnes...? But Love is getting some cheddar already and I don't know how much I'm really excited about him to be honest.

[Onus]

Patrick Patterson, the good Morris twin, gallinari, tobias harris ...

But really we have the stretch 4 on our team in green and/or Barnes, the 2nd team really does need a true playmaker/initiator though. Nedo may be able to take that role later on, but right now he looks tentative

I still wish we could have gotten the no. 1 pick from cle for Lee and took oladipo.

[TaylorMonkey]

Patrick Patterson, the good Morris twin, gallinari, tobias harris ...

But really we have the stretch 4 on our team in green and/or Barnes, the 2nd team really does need a true playmaker/initiator though. Nedo may be able to take that role later on, but right now he looks tentative

Yes, let's have Barnes defend Kaman/Gasol, Z-Bo, Boozer, Splitter, Griffin, Milsap, Love, Anthony Davis, Garnett, Dirk, and Aldridge and be completely one dimensional with jumpers while hoping Bogut gets 18-20 a night inside on a screwed up elbow with uncertain health. Oh right, we're also doing this so Iggy can get 20+ every night inside.


Green? Stretch? 4?

[BlackFalconGSW]

Swap a first round pick and cash considerations for the Phoenix training staff, and the Warriors just might represent the West in the Finals...

[Onus]

Patrick Patterson, the good Morris twin, gallinari, tobias harris ...

But really we have the stretch 4 on our team in green and/or Barnes, the 2nd team really does need a true playmaker/initiator though. Nedo may be able to take that role later on, but right now he looks tentative

Yes, let's have Barnes defend Kaman/Gasol, Z-Bo, Boozer, Splitter, Griffin, Milsap, Love, Anthony Davis, Garnett, Dirk, and Aldridge and be completely one dimensional with jumpers while hoping Bogut gets 18-20 a night inside on a screwed up elbow with uncertain health. Oh right, we're also doing this so Iggy can get 20+ every night inside.


Green? Stretch? 4?

Are there reallyany stretch 4's that can guard those players? Let alone regular pfs?

and yes green can play the stretch 4 role. His shot isn't consistentbut that;s something he's working on

[TaylorMonkey]

Are there reallyany stretch 4's that can guard those players? Let alone regular pfs?

and yes green can play the stretch 4 role. His shot isn't consistentbut that;s something he's working on

Decently sized power forwards (stretch or otherwise) would fare a little better than undersized stretch 4's which Barnes would be. I know Lee is undersized as well but even trimmed down Lee still has more bulk than Barnes and generally fares okay-ish in man defense.

I would use both the term "stretch 4" very loosely with Green, though he can do it in spot minutes.

He was en fuego in Shanghai though.

[Jester_]

Would Denver bite on a Barnes for Faried swap?

[DLeagueAllStars]

Im curious too, would allow us to trade Lee for possibly a center in case Bogut cant stay healthy

[whocurrz]

Would Denver bite on a Barnes for Faried swap?

I'd rather use Lee in the trade and take back Miller and maybe another contract they want to get rid of. Lee would fit well in a triangle system if that's what Shaw wants to play, but definitely doesn't play the hardnosed type of basketball Shaw likes most.

Maybe if it was something like Lee Barnes for Faried and Gallo it could be more interesting if Gallo can come back healthy. I like Barnes but healthy Gallo would be a really solid fit IMO. However, we'd have the same low post offense the Nuggets did against us in the playoffs

[rcfc1]

Would Denver bite on a Barnes for Faried swap?

I'd rather use Lee in the trade and take back Miller and maybe another contract they want to get rid of. Lee would fit well in a triangle system if that's what Shaw wants to play, but definitely doesn't play the hardnosed type of basketball Shaw likes most.

Maybe if it was something like Lee Barnes for Faried and Gallo it could be more interesting if Gallo can come back healthy. I like Barnes but healthy Gallo would be a really solid fit IMO. However, we'd have the same low post offense the Nuggets did against us in the playoffs

This makes too much sense to happen. I also love the idea of getting Miller. Always been a big fan of his.

[Left*My*Heart]

Would Denver bite on a Barnes for Faried swap?

I'd rather use Lee in the trade and take back Miller and maybe another contract they want to get rid of. Lee would fit well in a triangle system if that's what Shaw wants to play, but definitely doesn't play the hardnosed type of basketball Shaw likes most.

Maybe if it was something like Lee Barnes for Faried and Gallo it could be more interesting if Gallo can come back healthy. I like Barnes but healthy Gallo would be a really solid fit IMO. However, we'd have the same low post offense the Nuggets did against us in the playoffs

There is a reason Denver is gauging interest in Faried. A rumor out of Denver is that the FO believes Faried has reached his ceiling and his perceived value around the league is at the highest it will ever be. This is also based on the fact he is undersized for his position and relies so much on his athleticism, that his productivity will wane with the wear and tear on his body. I think Faried's perimeter offensive game is so limited, I think he would create spacing problems. Love his hustle, but he is going to demand a lot more money than he is worth.

I would be really careful in throwing any valuable assets to Denver for Faried. Lee and Barnes, IMO hold a lot more value than Gallo and Faried. I like Gallo a lot, but coming off a bad knee injury and that he plays a position of strength for the Warriors, I pass. I also don't like idea of trading Barnes.

This proposed trade would make the Warriors worse.

[whocurrz]

Would Denver bite on a Barnes for Faried swap?

I'd rather use Lee in the trade and take back Miller and maybe another contract they want to get rid of. Lee would fit well in a triangle system if that's what Shaw wants to play, but definitely doesn't play the hardnosed type of basketball Shaw likes most.

Maybe if it was something like Lee Barnes for Faried and Gallo it could be more interesting if Gallo can come back healthy. I like Barnes but healthy Gallo would be a really solid fit IMO. However, we'd have the same low post offense the Nuggets did against us in the playoffs

There is a reason Denver is gauging interest in Faried. A rumor out of Denver is that the FO believes Faried has reached his ceiling and his perceived value around the league is at the highest it will ever be. This is also based on the fact he is undersized for his position and relies so much on his athleticism, that his productivity will wane with the wear and tear on his body. I think Faried's perimeter offensive game is so limited, I think he would create spacing problems. Love his hustle, but he is going to demand a lot more money than he is worth.

I would be really careful in throwing any valuable assets to Denver for Faried. Lee and Barnes, IMO hold a lot more value than Gallo and Faried. I like Gallo a lot, but coming off a bad knee injury and that he plays a position of strength for the Warriors, I pass. I also don't like idea of trading Barnes.

This proposed trade would make the Warriors worse.

Yeah I'm not sure I would to it. Just more intrigued by those guys than a swap of Barnes for Faried

[Onus]

The Warriors actually have 16 players

Curry/Douglas/Nedovic
Thompson/Bazemore/Curry
Iguoldala/Barnes/Green
Lee/Speights/Dedmon
Bogut/O'neal/Ezeli/Kuzmic

Our last spot is up for grabs between Dedmon and little Curry with it most likely going to Dedmon.

Would like to make a 2 for 1 trade for an offensive spark plug for the bench. The problem is we just signed a lot these guys and the only guys that have been on the team longer than a few months that are at the end of the bench are Bazemore/Green/Ezeli (injured), and Green will most likely be 8th/9th man off the bench.

Other tradeable assets are Thompson/Barnes and Lee/Bogut as an expiring. But if we're trading these assets we need an upgrade at a big position.

Maybe something like a Horford + Teague/schroder

[old rem]

Yesterday Love had a slight edge on Lee.....but Thompson and Barnes were real solid and GSW won even with Curry not 100%. Speights and Dray combined for 14 boards and 2 blocks. I don't see a need for Faried. I like him but he's kind of "Role". If you look at UPSIDE....Barnes is loaded with upside. Faried is good but mostly is close to whatever he can be. No way GSW deals Barnes unless the deal is so SWEET...nobody on RGM thinks it works.

As for Seth Curry and Dedmon...they ain't officially roster. There's a poicy now of having some first claims on certain guys on the D League team...and that's kind of like NFL practice squad in that they ain't on your roster and CAN be signed by another team if you don't put them on the roster. I don't know the details...but that's about it. If for instance the Suns want to sign Dedmon...we can put him on the GSW roster...or the Suns can have him.