Bears Lead-Up

LUKE23 · Post #1 » by **LUKE23** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:45 pm

Have an extra day rest for this one. Bears are coming off their bye so they will have had 15 days to prepare.

Chance that J. Jones, B. Jones, Perry will be back for this one. With how Barclay has played lately, maybe Sherrod gets a shot at RT. Not sure how close he is though.

Heading in:

Packers offense: 3rd in ppg (30.3), 2nd in ypg (438.9)
Packers defense: 16th in ppg (22.6), 11th in ypg (331.1)

Bears offense: 2nd in ppg (30.4), 11th in ypg (367.7)
Bears defense: 29th in ppg (29.4), 27th in ypg (391.0)

Bears will be without Briggs, after already losing DJ Williams. It's too bad we don't have Finley for this game because it would have been a dream matchup. That said, the Bears pass rush is not what it has been and we should be able to move the ball on them. Chicago is 19th in rushing D at 4.0 YPC and the Packers are 3rd in rushing O at 4.8 YPC. Hopefully we see a lot of drives like we saw last night. Really no reason to lose this game.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #2 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:08 pm

I'll be at this one, my first ever MNF game. I'll be going with a group of friends, one of which is a Bears fan, so it should be a good time.

notoriousTJ11 · Post #3 » by **notoriousTJ11** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:21 pm

I'll be there as well. Looking forward to witnessing Lacy and Starks bash the hell out of the Bears front 7.

Ron Swanson · Post #4 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:39 pm

No Briggs, no Cutler, at Lambeau, no excuse not to win. Without two of their 3 starting LB's, and Melton out for the year, I fully expect us to gash the middle of that defense with our newfound 1-2 punch in Lacy & Starks.

Still looking for a Bostick sighting, but Quarless played well yesterday so it's not of paramount importance, just would like to see us split him out wide and take advantage of some favorable matchups against a depleted LB corps. Their secondary hasn't played well lately, but I doubt they make the same mistake that MIN did, they'll have Tillman shadow Jordy and keep a safety over top all game. Up to Boykin and White to make plays if Jones isn't ready to go.

I don't see us scoring 44 against them, but I'm not overly worried about their offense. McCown makes smarter decisions than Cutler, but he doesn't have the mobility and arm that Jay does to make plays down the field, so Dom needs to dial up the blitzes and trust our man coverage. Stick Shields on Marshall and press Jeffrey, he's still inexperienced for a second year guy and struggles if he doesn't get a good release off the line. Our run defense is good enough to stuff Forte. I think the only advantage/mismatch they have on us would be Bennett vs. our LB pass coverage. He could do some damage if we give McCown time to dissect the middle of the field.

31-17 Pack

Newz · Post #5 » by **Newz** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:14 pm

So what's the deal with Franklin not getting any burn in the RB rotation? He looked great in the limited action he has had in the regular season. Is it because of ball security issues?

Post #6 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:15 pm

Sooooo glad we didn't have any injuries. I'm curious how much Hayeard played, McGinn will have his snap count in his ratings tomorrow. Our "next man up" philosphy has worked well. I guess every team has the same philosphy, the difference being we have some tremendous depth and a GM with a great eye for talent. Who would have thought a receiver cut by the Jags would be so good? I didn't when he dropped the first couple of passes that came his way in the Ravens game. But he's been damn good. You can never overlook the Bears of course. Hopefully Jones and Perry are back. That plus another week for Hayward to heal and I see a 14 point win.

KidA24 · Post #7 » by **KidA24** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:25 pm

Newz wrote:So what's the deal with Franklin not getting any burn in the RB rotation? He looked great in the limited action he has had in the regular season. Is it because of ball security issues?

I'd imagine so. When you fumble on 10% of your touches, you really shouldn't be seeing the field until you fix that problem.

Post #8 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:43 pm

It's a catch 22. He needs ti "fix that problem" but hard to do when you don't get the opportunity. Practice touches don't equal game touches. But unless (knock on wood) Lacey or Starks go down again he won't be seeing action any time soon anyway.

zmanishere11 · Post #9 » by **zmanishere11** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:03 pm

Does anyone know any decent gambling websites? I feel like I should be betting these next few weeks of games....

crkone · Post #10 » by **crkone** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:48 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Sooooo glad we didn't have any injuries. I'm curious how much Hayeard played, McGinn will have his snap count in his ratings tomorrow. Our "next man up" philosphy has worked well. I guess every team has the same philosphy, the difference being we have some tremendous depth and a GM with a great eye for talent. Who would have thought a receiver cut by the Jags would be so good? I didn't when he dropped the first couple of passes that came his way in the Ravens game. But he's been damn good. You can never overlook the Bears of course. Hopefully Jones and Perry are back. That plus another week for Hayward to heal and I see a 14 point win.

I posted about Hayward in the post game thread. 23 snaps, allowed 1 catch on one pass thrown at him to Jennings for 9 yards, 3 after the catch. Tramon and Shields had 49 snaps, Hyde had 19 and House had 12.

Post #11 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:19 pm

Great, 23 snaps and apparently the hammy held up.

El Duderino · Post #12 » by **El Duderino** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:25 pm

Newz wrote:So what's the deal with Franklin not getting any burn in the RB rotation? He looked great in the limited action he has had in the regular season. Is it because of ball security issues?

I think the fumbles are the biggest reason, but besides that, who would you give him carries over? With Starks and Lacy playing so well, there is no place for Franklin to get carries and then mix in the fumbles, he's stuck on the bench.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #13 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:30 pm

El Duderino wrote:
Newz wrote:So what's the deal with Franklin not getting any burn in the RB rotation? He looked great in the limited action he has had in the regular season. Is it because of ball security issues?

I think the fumbles are the biggest reason, but besides that, who would you give him carries over? With Starks and Lacy playing so well, there is no place for Franklin to get carries and then mix in the fumbles, he's stuck on the bench.

Yeah I agree. With that being said if we were hit with some injuries to Lacy and/or Starks, I would have no problem with him getting a heavy workload. He has talent, but just needs to work on his ball protection.

Ron Swanson · Post #14 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:30 pm

crkone wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Sooooo glad we didn't have any injuries. I'm curious how much Hayeard played, McGinn will have his snap count in his ratings tomorrow. Our "next man up" philosphy has worked well. I guess every team has the same philosphy, the difference being we have some tremendous depth and a GM with a great eye for talent. Who would have thought a receiver cut by the Jags would be so good? I didn't when he dropped the first couple of passes that came his way in the Ravens game. But he's been damn good. You can never overlook the Bears of course. Hopefully Jones and Perry are back. That plus another week for Hayward to heal and I see a 14 point win.

I posted about Hayward in the post game thread. 23 snaps, allowed 1 catch on one pass thrown at him to Jennings for 9 yards, 3 after the catch. Tramon and Shields had 49 snaps, Hyde had 19 and House had 12.

I'm still wondering why Tramon is getting quadruple the amount of snaps as House. Other than that great break where he nearly had a pick six, he's been wildly inconsistent, and IMO has been the weakest link in the secondary not named Jerron McMillan.

I won't fault him for the BS pass interference call, but it seems as if he's playing a step slower than what he used to. Given his age it's not surprising, but he seems to have a very generous leash based just on his "veteran status".

Post #15 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:37 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Great, 23 snaps and apparently the hammy held up.

I'll be honest...I didn't even realize he was playing this past week. Something is wrong with me. :lol:

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #16 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:42 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Great, 23 snaps and apparently the hammy held up.

I'll be honest...I didn't even realize he was playing this past week. Something is wrong with me.

I didn't realize either.

BUCKnation · Post #17 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:54 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Great, 23 snaps and apparently the hammy held up.

I'll be honest...I didn't even realize he was playing this past week. Something is wrong with me.

I didn't realize either.

Same, figured he was held out again. I guess its good that we didn't hear about him though.

Newz · Post #18 » by **Newz** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:58 pm

El Duderino wrote:
Newz wrote:So what's the deal with Franklin not getting any burn in the RB rotation? He looked great in the limited action he has had in the regular season. Is it because of ball security issues?

I think the fumbles are the biggest reason, but besides that, who would you give him carries over? With Starks and Lacy playing so well, there is no place for Franklin to get carries and then mix in the fumbles, he's stuck on the bench.

From what I saw when he was on the field? I would give him just as many, if not more touches than those guys. I would find ways to get him on the field... he was extremely impressive, at least he was to me.

I am a big believer that TOs lose games though, so I can understand if it is the ball protection keeping him on the bench.

Ron Swanson · Post #19 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:11 pm

Newz wrote:
From what I saw when he was on the field? I would give him just as many, if not more touches than those guys. I would find ways to get him on the field... he was extremely impressive, at least he was to me.

I am a big believer that TOs lose games though, so I can understand if it is the ball protection keeping him on the bench.

I can understand limiting his touches based on the fumbles, but I think he can be special in the screen game. Utilize him in space much like we did with Cobb, screens, draws, and shotgun tosses. Have Lacy and Starks wear the defense down between the tackles, then it softens up the edge of the those D-lines. I really hope he shows improved ball security so McCarthy can get him on the field.

Kerb Hohl · Post #20 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:31 pm

I'm pretty much in the same boat on not realizing anything with Hayward. I thought I saw "29" on the field in a play late in the game but when some on here suggested he didn't play, I just thought maybe I saw the wrong number on a play. Surprised NBC didn't focus in on his return a bit more.