Raps' Official 2013-14 Trade Idea Thread

[ballislife]

Amir Johnson + Terrence Ross + DJ Augustin + 2016 Knicks 1st Rd Pick for Kenneth Faried and Andre Miller

I think that's a good deal for both sides... it's more realistic. I'd hate to lose Amir but I love Faried for the future. Miller would give us a proper backup PG with veteran experience. I love the prospect of building with DD, JV, and Faried... we'd need a lot of shooters around them though.

[sweetcity]

Amir Johnson + Terrence Ross + DJ Augustin + 2016 Knicks 1st Rd Pick for Kenneth Faried and Andre Miller

I think that's a good deal for both sides... it's more realistic. I'd hate to lose Amir but I love Faried for the future. Miller would give us a proper backup PG with veteran experience. I love the prospect of building with DD, JV, and Faried... we'd need a lot of shooters around them though.

way to much to give up for Faried. way way way too much.

How much better is Faried then Amir Johnson? and you want to add T Ross and a 1st? Lets face it Andre Miller is just filler.

[bigmandinky]

I like Faried and all, but the only area where he is significantly better than Amir is rebounding. Amir, on the other hand, is a better defender, shot-blocker, and post-scorer. Not to mention he has the size to play center, as well as match up against big 4's.

Also, people are way to eager to use Ross as a throw in for any deal. His defense, 3pt shooting and ball-handling have all looked better this preseason, and its only his second year in the league.

[TheGoodDoctor]

Yeah don't think that trade would be worth it...keeping in mind Faried will need to get paid soon too and you can bet he's going to demand more than what Amir was making.

[ddx19]

#1
TOR trades: Demar Derozan
ATL trades: Dennis Schroder & Louis Williams
#2
TOR trades: Rudy Gay & Amir Johnson
DET trades: Greg Monroe & Rodney Stuckey & Charlie Villanueva
#3
TOR trades: Kyle Lowry
MIL trades: Giannis Adetokunmpo
Reason: Well if this scenario ever plays out (Which I hope it does), Raptors going forward will have a core of Jonas, Monroe, Schroder, and two projects (Tross & Giannis). For the first time in his life Demar will play for a playoff team since there’s no point in making him disgruntled when we are tanking so it’s best for all of us that Demar gets to feed his playoff hunger with Atlanta. For the Detroit scenario, its best to cash in their desperate chase for the playoffs. Lastly, the Milwaukee scenario is basically a salary dump on the Raptors part which benefits both parties since moving forward Lowry should not be our point guard so it’s best to send him to the bucks who will be glad to have a point guard better then Brandon Knight. All in All, the Raptors will be in the chase for the top 10 in the 2014 draft pick
Edit: snap I forgot the roster will add up to 17 so might as well cut some guys (Looking at buycks and Stone)

Interesting trade, but ATL and Detroit say no. Louis Williams when healthy pretty much = DeMar, and adding Schroeder is way too steep.

Detroit can get way more for Monroe + expiring contracts than Rudy and Amir. Remember, they offered toronto Charlie V and Stucky for Rudy straight up, so why would the add in a franchise player for Amir to that deal?

[Crazomali]

#1
TOR trades: Demar Derozan
ATL trades: Dennis Schroder & Louis Williams
#2
TOR trades: Rudy Gay & Amir Johnson
DET trades: Greg Monroe & Rodney Stuckey & Charlie Villanueva
#3
TOR trades: Kyle Lowry
MIL trades: Giannis Adetokunmpo
Reason: Well if this scenario ever plays out (Which I hope it does), Raptors going forward will have a core of Jonas, Monroe, Schroder, and two projects (Tross & Giannis). For the first time in his life Demar will play for a playoff team since there’s no point in making him disgruntled when we are tanking so it’s best for all of us that Demar gets to feed his playoff hunger with Atlanta. For the Detroit scenario, its best to cash in their desperate chase for the playoffs. Lastly, the Milwaukee scenario is basically a salary dump on the Raptors part which benefits both parties since moving forward Lowry should not be our point guard so it’s best to send him to the bucks who will be glad to have a point guard better then Brandon Knight. All in All, the Raptors will be in the chase for the top 10 in the 2014 draft pick
Edit: snap I forgot the roster will add up to 17 so might as well cut some guys (Looking at buycks and Stone)

Interesting trade, but ATL and Detroit say no. Louis Williams when healthy pretty much = DeMar, and adding Schroeder is way too steep.

Detroit can get way more for Monroe + expiring contracts than Rudy and Amir. Remember, they offered toronto Charlie V and Stucky for Rudy straight up, so why would the add in a franchise player for Amir to that deal?

To answer your question about the validity of the detroit trade is that many people including me know that ujiri is best at collecting assests and we all know that Joe Dumars is desperate in making his team relevant so basically it all boils down to ujiri taking advantage of the moment (hijacking monroe from pistons). Im predicting that this season the gap between lou williams and demar will get noticeable bigger and if it does it would only be fair to add schroder to deal. Besides imo L.Williams had his best days behind, way too injury prone

[DreamTeam09]

We should make a play for Myers Leonard now that he is the 3rd string center in Portland.

[Brettfinch]

Goran Dragic is being rumored to be on the trading block the Suns really wanna suck bad. Dunno where exactly he would fit but he would fit none the less.

And don't really know what we would trade for him.

[bballsparkin]

Interesting trade, but ATL and Detroit say no. Louis Williams when healthy pretty much = DeMar, and adding Schroeder is way too steep.

Detroit can get way more for Monroe + expiring contracts than Rudy and Amir. Remember, they offered toronto Charlie V and Stucky for Rudy straight up, so why would the add in a franchise player for Amir to that deal?

To answer your question about the validity of the detroit trade is that many people including me know that ujiri is best at collecting assests and we all know that Joe Dumars is desperate in making his team relevant so basically it all boils down to ujiri taking advantage of the moment (hijacking monroe from pistons). Im predicting that this season the gap between lou williams and demar will get noticeable bigger and if it does it would only be fair to add schroder to deal. Besides imo L.Williams had his best days behind, way too injury prone

I highly doubt that Schroder would be available. And Williams's better three point shooting may make him more useful in ATL. Not sure but it's certainly a possibility. Demar could take it to another level and is more durable but Schroder is too steep a price I'm thinking.

And to Monroe, perhaps Detroit would move him because it's true that his defense is lacking and he will soon be looking to get paid. If that's true the Pistons may be inclined to move him for a better fit. As in hopefully Gay.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Maybe, we flip Monroe to a team like OKC, for example, for Reggie Jackson & assets?

[sweetcity]

Maybe, we flip Monroe to a team like OKC, for example, for Reggie Jackson & assets?

why would you flip a potential all star for Reggie Jackson and assets? That's one of the most outlandish things I've read on here.

[rapsanity]

Amir Johnson + Terrence Ross + DJ Augustin + 2016 Knicks 1st Rd Pick for Kenneth Faried and Andre Miller

I think that's a good deal for both sides... it's more realistic. I'd hate to lose Amir but I love Faried for the future. Miller would give us a proper backup PG with veteran experience. I love the prospect of building with DD, JV, and Faried... we'd need a lot of shooters around them though.

way to much to give up for Faried. way way way too much.

How much better is Faried then Amir Johnson? and you want to add T Ross and a 1st? Lets face it Andre Miller is just filler.

Exactly. Plus, Faried will demand a lot of $.

Not worth it

[Rapsfan07]

gay for MKG doesn't work for me right now. We need to see what we have with DeMar and Rudy is the better player right now and will make life easier for DeMar. MKG has no range right now. Charlotte I don't think should do it either since they can wait to see what they have with MKG. It's definitely something to consider if we go the tank route and Rudy/Jefferson/Kemba/Zeller is a decent core

I bolded the problem wrong with what you said.

To be honest, i have NEVER been a huge MKG fan. Never understood the hype and don't see him being all that special but hey. This trade has nothing to do with MKG vs Gay - Gay is absolutely the better player. This would be a huge tank move. I'm also not suggesting that Charlotte would happily give him but they did sign Jefferson so it looks as if the front office is trying to win now and if they are, a Gay-MKG deal would benefit them greatly.

[TripleMKE]

Okay, I suck at proposing trades but I wonder if something like this would be good...

Celtics Get: Ross, Lowry, and Gray (expiring)
Raps Get: Rondo

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mtybs54

I think this core team with Rondo is just as good if not better than the Knicks and easily a second round team.

[Rapsfan07]

I agree, we have a lot of bargaining power with KL right now. Unfortunately for him, the market for PG's is people saturated right now. I'd say we could get him for 4 years $6.5-7m. Packaged with Rudy Gay, we could probably take back Gordan, Kemba or MGK and Biyombo. I've always loved Kemba, the guy is a winner, neither him or MKG is a good fit with DeMar though

Exactly. Brandon Jennings wanted a max deal from Milwaukee and left and ended up signing for less than $8mil/yr in Detroit. There's just so man PG's in the league that nobody is going to shell out big money unless you're a star because you're so easily replaceable. Most good teams (teams that Lowry would want to go to) have a PG already so unless he's willing to come off the bench (which I doubt), his pickings are extremely slim.... And that's IF the teams who want him have the capspace to sign him anyways.

So I think if we offer him a reasonable extension now, we could a) trade him for something down the road and b) avoid having to dish out a lot of money if he has a career year this year.

[Crazomali]

Interesting trade, but ATL and Detroit say no. Louis Williams when healthy pretty much = DeMar, and adding Schroeder is way too steep.

Detroit can get way more for Monroe + expiring contracts than Rudy and Amir. Remember, they offered toronto Charlie V and Stucky for Rudy straight up, so why would the add in a franchise player for Amir to that deal?

To answer your question about the validity of the detroit trade is that many people including me know that ujiri is best at collecting assests and we all know that Joe Dumars is desperate in making his team relevant so basically it all boils down to ujiri taking advantage of the moment (hijacking monroe from pistons). Im predicting that this season the gap between lou williams and demar will get noticeable bigger and if it does it would only be fair to add schroder to deal. Besides imo L.Williams had his best days behind, way too injury prone

I highly doubt that Schroder would be available. And Williams's better three point shooting may make him more useful in ATL. Not sure but it's certainly a possibility. Demar could take it to another level and is more durable but Schroder is too steep a price I'm thinking.

And to Monroe, perhaps Detroit would move him because it's true that his defense is lacking and he will soon be looking to get paid. If that's true the Pistons may be inclined to move him for a better fit. As in hopefully Gay.

Theres nothing in your statement that i can refute. Basically i just it happens make it happen masai

[Rapsfan07]

Amir Johnson + Terrence Ross + DJ Augustin + 2016 Knicks 1st Rd Pick for Kenneth Faried and Andre Miller

I think that's a good deal for both sides... it's more realistic. I'd hate to lose Amir but I love Faried for the future. Miller would give us a proper backup PG with veteran experience. I love the prospect of building with DD, JV, and Faried... we'd need a lot of shooters around them though.

way to much to give up for Faried. way way way too much.

How much better is Faried then Amir Johnson? and you want to add T Ross and a 1st? Lets face it Andre Miller is just filler.

IMO Faried is slowly becoming one of the most overrated players in the league.

He's got great highlights and I appreciate that. But people are getting too far caught up in all of that and not really taking an objective look at him. Statistically, he's not even better than Amir..well except for rebounding.

Amir is taller, can play both PF and C, got a solid mid-range jumper, better shot blocker, better defender AND already locked up to a below market price deal. Faried is looking to be paid soon and the dude who overpays him is going to be very sorry very quickly. And we'd be foolish to let that be us just over a few highlight reels.

And then we're throwing in a first round pick and Ross? No thanks. Not interested.

[Sandman88]

With Bledsoe in Phoenix, I think the Suns may be more inclined to trade drajic for a 2 so that bledsoe can man the point. I also think Drajic would look great on the raps. What do you guys think of trading for Dragic?? Maybe unloading Gay in the process..

[CreaM]

Man, this board sometimes... What the heck is trading for Dragic supposed to do for us for the love of christ?

[Sandman88]

Give us a nice, young point guard for the future?