Thunder Exercise Options On Jackson, Lamb, Jones

Joest2003 · Post #1 » by **Joest2003** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:15 pm

Lamb is to young and has to much potential to let go of and they must be seeing something in practice out of Jones that im not seeing if they did that but to be honest im not a Reggie Jackson fan at all. He is a decent scorer but he is NOT a real PG. I cant count how many times I see him just put his head down and charge the paint like hes superman or something and half the time its a charge call or a terrible layup attempt. Russel Westbrook gets away with it because hes a beast and even he takes heavy criticism for how he plays his position. Jackson averaged 3.5 assists when he was a starting PG, now you tell me if 3.5 assists when your playing with KD is impressive. Lebron averages twice that passing to the birdman and mike miller and hes not even a PG. we need a pass first PG to go along with KD and Lamb not a less talented version of Russ. I dont see this guy being part of the future here and I hope hes not. Id be happy with Ramon Sessions or Will Bynum because they would get the ball to KD more and in better positions.

Post #2 » by **wizkid27** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:22 pm

I agree with you on Lamb and Jones. Lamb is an easy decision and Jones hasn't shown much. However, the Reggie decision has to be even easier... He's already shown that he can easily fit into a rotational role, which is really the criteria for picking up a rookie option. He's certainty shown more actual production than Lamb, and I assume by draft position, his option was for less.

Assists/game is a bit misleading because even when he started in the playoffs, the offense was running through KD. From a comparison standpoint, Chalmers would be a better comparison (technically a pg but playing alongside others that actually run the offense).

Joest2003 · Post #3 » by **Joest2003** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:27 pm

Im just worried about having 2 shoot first PGs. Look at Miami they have Chalmers who scores 10 on a good night. I just need to see A LOT more than 3.5 assists a game and I cant stand when he puts his head down and charges the lane like he did last year in the playoffs and got called for a change and cost us the game.

Podirk · Post #4 » by **Podirk** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:47 pm

The 3rd and 4th year extensions were no brainers....cheap contracts and good talent (for the money).

Even though the offensive fouls are not as bad as you exagerate (he averaged 3.1 total fouls per game in the playoffs), it was a jump in bball knowledge that Russ had to learn, we saw Harden go through, and now in his 3rd year will see Reg go through. Reg has made it a point in the preseason to get KD and others going even to the point of not attacking..,givin it is the preseason.

Sidenote: We will see Lamb go through it too...Bulls game?

Podirk · Post #5 » by **Podirk** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:08 pm

Joest2003 wrote:...

Jackson averaged 3.5 assists when he was a starting PG, now you tell me if 3.5 assists when your playing with KD is impressive. Lebron averages twice that passing to the birdman and mike miller and hes not even a PG. we need a pass first PG to go along with KD and Lamb not a less talented version of Russ. I dont see this guy being part of the future here and I hope hes not. Id be happy with Ramon Sessions or Will Bynum because they would get the ball to KD more and in better positions.

lol at comparing a backup PG who is starting due to injury to Lebron James!!

You know why birdman, miller, chalmers, cole, battier, etc etc make shots?? cause they are wide open cause you have to double James.

I'm so GLAD we DON"T have Ramon Sessions...his 3.8 assists in ~30 min for the season don't hold up to Reggies 3.6 assists in 33 min vs one of the grittiest defenses and the fact that the team was backpedaling to find anything that worked in the absense of Russ.

Preseason should be noted...cause it was the preseason..but RJ averaged 5.6 in 27 min. (and 1.8 fouls...)

Joest2003 · Post #6 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:37 pm

Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:...

Jackson averaged 3.5 assists when he was a starting PG, now you tell me if 3.5 assists when your playing with KD is impressive. Lebron averages twice that passing to the birdman and mike miller and hes not even a PG. we need a pass first PG to go along with KD and Lamb not a less talented version of Russ. I dont see this guy being part of the future here and I hope hes not. Id be happy with Ramon Sessions or Will Bynum because they would get the ball to KD more and in better positions.

lol at comparing a backup PG who is starting due to injury to Lebron James!!

You know why birdman, miller, chalmers, cole, battier, etc etc make shots?? cause they are wide open cause you have to double James.

I'm so GLAD we DON"T have Ramon Sessions...his 3.8 assists in ~30 min for the season don't hold up to Reggies 3.6 assists in 33 min vs one of the grittiest defenses and the fact that the team was backpedaling to find anything that worked in the absense of Russ.

Preseason should be noted...cause it was the preseason..but RJ averaged 5.6 in 27 min. (and 1.8 fouls...)

Thanks for proving my point that Sessions averaged MORE assists in LESS time on a team with the WORST shooting percentage in the league......

Podirk · Post #7 » by **Podirk** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:39 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:...

Jackson averaged 3.5 assists when he was a starting PG, now you tell me if 3.5 assists when your playing with KD is impressive. Lebron averages twice that passing to the birdman and mike miller and hes not even a PG. we need a pass first PG to go along with KD and Lamb not a less talented version of Russ. I dont see this guy being part of the future here and I hope hes not. Id be happy with Ramon Sessions or Will Bynum because they would get the ball to KD more and in better positions.

lol at comparing a backup PG who is starting due to injury to Lebron James!!

You know why birdman, miller, chalmers, cole, battier, etc etc make shots?? cause they are wide open cause you have to double James.

I'm so GLAD we DON"T have Ramon Sessions...his 3.8 assists in ~30 min for the season don't hold up to Reggies 3.6 assists in 33 min vs one of the grittiest defenses and the fact that the team was backpedaling to find anything that worked in the absense of Russ.

Preseason should be noted...cause it was the preseason..but RJ averaged 5.6 in 27 min. (and 1.8 fouls...)

Thanks for proving my point that Sessions averaged MORE assists in LESS time on a team with the WORST shooting percentage in the league......

Thanks for missing my point that Reg played vs playoff D while Sessions had a full season.

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Joest2003 · Post #8 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:41 pm

How is 3.5 assists a game for a PG acceptable to you?? not only is that not good its just flat out awful. Am I the only one who sees this? hes not a 20 year old rookie, this guys been around for a little while we know what he is. If we had a starting PG like Rondo or CP3 id say sure we can use a PG who doesn't assist and just scores but we already have that in Westbrook and he takes a lot of criticism for the way he plays his position, the last thing we need is a way less talented version of Westbrook as his backup.

Podirk · Post #9 » by **Podirk** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:45 pm

A person who watches the Thunder regularly knows they struggle moving the ball and often fall into iso offense (which given the offensive struggles of Perk, Thabo is semi understandable). Assists have been a poor area for the Thunder for a while.

A backup PG getting starts in the playoffs due to injury when the Thunder are running there offense through Durant isn't going to throw out amazing assist numbers period.

A PG like Rondo or CP3? They were 1 and 2 in assists...Westbrook however was no slouch at 7. (and was the leading scoring PG as well) Can Russ get better...or course, but it's not like he was poor or average at assists.

Devilanche · Post #10 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:07 am

Don't get caught up in stats, i just want player who don't give up when the odds are against them.

Podirk · Post #11 » by **Podirk** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:46 pm

Devilanche wrote:Don't get caught up in stats, i just want player who don't give up when the odds are against them.

That's why RW is my favorite player...and a reason why RJ is high on my list.

spearsy23 · Post #12 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:48 am

Did you watch the playoffs? Reggie didn't even have the ball in his hands, KD was playing point on offense.

comingbacktousa · Post #13 » by **comingbacktousa** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:41 am

spearsy23 wrote:Did you watch the playoffs? Reggie didn't even have the ball in his hands, KD was playing point on offense.

This. If you want to compare Reggie Jackson's numbers while starting compare it to Chalmers.

When you have a player like Lebron or Durant that draws so much attention from the defense you don't take the ball out of their hands unless you have another play that does the same(Westbrook/Wade). Durant consistently gets more open shots for the rest of the team than Jackson could by running the same simple offense Westbrook runs.

Envelopes · Post #14 » by **Envelopes** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 6:29 am

KD is the only shooter on the team, anyone who wants guys to create less offence is silly. KD creates for himself, and is the leading scorer in the league, you cant give him more shots or teams will play 3 guys on him.

Someone needs to creat there own shot and Reggie shoots at a very good clip at the ring. till Russ gets back, he is exactly what we need.