Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3

[deneem4]

Nicholson is fckn **** up with the magic...and hes not even the top 5 important young player....imagine when tobias hsrkless, O'Quinn, vuveci, oladipp heat it....I been saying it for the longest the magic is going to be hard

deneem4, ORL sure looks good early. Oladipo is going to make them MUCH better, it appears.

I loved Nicholson his draft. I think they have too many talented young guys in ORL to keep them all. Behind Vucevic both O'Quinn and IMO Nicholson are good. Harris is a beast, but Harkless will become really good. That team is full of young talent.

I agree I think thts y they were pushing v.o. to be pg...to move harkless in sg harris and Nicholson at forward. ..but they're very deep in the frontcourt. ..somrthing we couldve took advantage of with a 1st rd

[hands11]

Wow. LAL just took down the LAC and in decisive fashion.

Their bench actually played most if not all the 4th.

[closg00]

Despite what the Sacramento Kings' front office originally said, Jimmer Fredette is still sitting on the trade block. The point guard is entering his third year in the NBA and has to truly capitalize in the hype that followed him from college. Fredette is not a draft bust, just on a team that is fairly set at the point guard position. While the Kings are insisting they are not actively shopping Fredette around, they are certainly answering the phones when interested teams call.

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articl ... ez-ray.htm

So Jan and Jimmer are the only top-10 picks who did not have their options picked-up (as-off this post)

[Upper Decker]

Dead serious question:

Who has a better front court (PF/CE) rotation; Washington or LA Clippers?

Washington top 5:
1. Nene
2. Gortat
3. Booker
4. Harrington
5. Seraphin

LA Clippers top 5:
1. Griffin
2. Jordan
3. Jamison
4. Mullens
5. Holilns

Griffin is clearly the best player of the ten and him alone probably makes LA Clippers front court better. However, 2-5 Washington is easily better than LA Clippers 2-5. I don't see how LA is a legit championship contender with such a poor front line.

[Nivek]

Dead serious question:

Who has a better front court (PF/CE) rotation; Washington or LA Clippers?

Washington top 5:
1. Nene
2. Gortat
3. Booker
4. Harrington
5. Seraphin

LA Clippers top 5:
1. Griffin
2. Jordan
3. Jamison
4. Mullens
5. Holilns

Griffin is clearly the best player of the ten and him alone probably makes LA Clippers front court better. However, 2-5 Washington is easily better than LA Clippers 2-5. I don't see how LA is a legit championship contender with such a poor front line.

PPA for each player last season:

Wizards

1. Nene -- 119
2. Gortat -- 125
3. Booker -- 96
4. Harrington -- 81 (last full season -- he was out with a staph infection last year)
5. Seraphin -- 22

Clippers

1. Griffin -- 175
2. Jordan -- 152
3. Jamison -- 96
4. Mullens -- 70
5. Hollins -- 39

I'm projecting both Nene and Gortat at 146 this season. My quick and dirty projection on Griffin puts him at a PPA of 180-185 for this season and Jordan at 155-160. The Clippers frontcourt is better.

I'd rather the Clippers top 2 -- ages 24 and 25 (and better production) -- than the Wizards -- ages 31 and 29 (almost 30).

[fishercob]

The fact that the question even deserves a response is why I don't trust the Clips as true contenders. They're way too thin up front after Griffin and Jordan -- both of whom are good but carry questions. Any combo of their backup bigs will get torched defensively, and it's not like Griffin can slide over to C and be effective on defense.

[Upper Decker]

I'm interested how PPA would rank if it were broken out by quarter for DeAndre Jordan. He's incapable of playing in the 4th quarter. I'm not taking this to the bank, but Nene/Gortat seems like a better pairing down the stretch of a close game than Griffin/Hollins.

Also, I'm a bit surprised Mullens ranks so high in PPA. IMO, he's the last front court player I'd want on the Wizards roster. He's the Jordan Crawford of bigs. Charlotte will be 5 games better this season just because he's NOT on their roster.

[verbal8]

I'm interested how PPA would rank if it were broken out by quarter for DeAndre Jordan. He's incapable of playing in the 4th quarter. I'm not taking this to the bank, but Nene/Gortat seems like a better pairing down the stretch of a close game than Griffin/Hollins.

PPA would be roughly the same - in incorporates his terrible FT shooting

Also, I'm a bit surprised Mullens ranks so high in PPA. IMO, he's the last front court player I'd want on the Wizards roster. He's the Jordan Crawford of bigs. Charlotte will be 5 games better this season just because he's NOT on their roster.

100 is average so 70 isn't great

[Nivek]

Dunno about 4th quarter stuff. If someone has the numbers, I could run them. You're probably referring to Jordan's FT%, which is really bad. His overall impact on the game is a definite positive for the Clippers even with that FT shooting. I do agree that the Clippers could use a third big to complement Griffin and Jordan.

As for Mullens, a) 70 is a low score -- average is 100; b) it was the best mark of his career; and c) he's bad, but he does contribute rebounds, some assists, some blocks, some steals. He's a guy who could help his team more if he'd shoot A LOT less frequently. I mean, I wouldn't want him on my team, but he's not totally useless. How's that for an endorsement?

[nuposse04]

I completely forgot Xavier Henry is only 22 years old. The situation in LAL may be ideal for him. Will be interesting to see if he breaks out.

[LyricalRico]

I completely forgot Xavier Henry is only 22 years old. The situation in LAL may be ideal for him. Will be interesting to see if he breaks out.

Just watched the highlights and he was impressive. He's actually a guy I wanted the Wizards to acquire for the last couple years. I just felt that he was a guy that could produce if he had the opportunity. Obviously it's only one game, he's a young guy with something to play for on a team that is desperate for somebody on the wings to step up. Now is his chance.

[Nivek]

I completely forgot Xavier Henry is only 22 years old. The situation in LAL may be ideal for him. Will be interesting to see if he breaks out.

YODA liked Henry coming out of college. He's been AWFUL in the NBA so far -- like Vesely/Singleton/Seraphin awful. It'd be nice if he could turn it around.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Henry is a guy I liked a lot out of Kansas. Thought for sure I missed on him. Xavier Henry is finally with a coach whose system fits his talent and game. Jan Vesely would IMO do MUCH better on this year's Lakers, just like Henry. Vesely will play a lot better elsewhere, just like Henry.

I think Witt is foolish not to see Gortat a day one starter and to give Jan a DNP-CD game one. Dumb not to involve others. Jan improved a bunch this offseason. Vesely outrebouned everyone and all preseason. Wittman didn't play him game one.

The Wizards never are quick to do right or smart, IMO.

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[mhd]

Pondexter extended for 4 years, 13 million. Great deal for Memphis if Pondexter continues his ascension as a good solid 3&D player.

[FAH1223]

Pondexter extended for 4 years, 13 million. Great deal for Memphis if Pondexter continues his ascension as a good solid 3&D player.

I like it. I think he's played well for them and Hollins was foolish not to use him more in the postseason.

[closg00]

by Ruzious on Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:44 pm

Time to escape to my favorite thread. There's a player out of Washington that's marching up the charts - even though NBAdraft.net has him as a mid 2nd rounder. Quincy Pondexter - a strong athletic 6'6/6'7 3 with length and athleticism who loves to play D, plays with passion, and all of a sudden has become a big scorer and rebounder as a senior. His PER is 6th in the nation - around 35. I've seen him compared to a young James Posey - a player I had always wanted on the Wiz. It'll be interesting to see how high and fast he shoots up in mocks - which might depend on how his 3 point range projects. With his energy and build, I see him as a young poor man's Shawn Marion.

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Not going to bash on the Booker pick, but there were more than a few guys who pimped for Pondexter for this pick and there was some grumbles when we didn't pick him. Glad that Quincy has developed.

[fishercob]

It's official -- no pre-deadline extension from the Pistons for Greg Monroe.

I am guessing he wasn't going to sign for a penny less than the max and that the Pistons were more comfortable seeing another year of health and hopefully progress before making that type of commitment. It's the strategy that I advocated with Wall, but I understand the human elements of Wall's extension before he reached restricted free agency (as well as the risks).

Let's hope Andre Drummond and Josh Smith have great years -- and that Monroe is dying to come back to DC and hook up with his fellow Hoya as well as the Wiz's young core. I think the odds of us landing Monroe next summer are small (10%?). But maybe Detroit lets him walk if they think their resources are better devoted elsewhere.

[Dat2U]

I completely forgot Xavier Henry is only 22 years old. The situation in LAL may be ideal for him. Will be interesting to see if he breaks out.

YODA liked Henry coming out of college. He's been AWFUL in the NBA so far -- like Vesely/Singleton/Seraphin awful. It'd be nice if he could turn it around.

Henry was a guy I thought I had totally missed on. I liked him a lot out of college. Actually had him 7th on my board if I remember correctly, one spot ahead of Paul George.

[pancakes3]

Every year when I get sad about watching our players play stilted, hapless basketball, I switch over to the Rockets. They execute beautifully. Dwight does look more capable and they're running some twin-tower sets with Asik/Howard. Once they get the gears lined up, it's going to be phenomenal.

[verbal8]

I am not really surprised about Hayward not getting an extension, especially if he wanted significantly more than Favors. I am surprised that Bledsoe didn't get one. Especially since he seems to be the only long terms piece on the Suns roster.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... er=ya5nbcs