GT: Lakers VS Spurs 11/1/13 7:30pm TWSN-ESPN

[kblo247]

Williams should not be on an nba team. Nash is the writing checks your body can't cash guy. johnson is athletic, but not anywhere near producing. Young is a scorer... who can't score.

Young is a scorer who can't score and is getting less minutes than the preseason and his years everywhere else, it's like when Nate Robinson stayed on the doghouse and on a short leash. He's not a shooter. He's a scorer who took a whole 3 shots, dew 6 fts, and was sat in 18 mins.

Hill barely used, Kaman barely used, and yet Williams starts to space the floor despite us never actually sitting him in the corner ala Metta. I will give Williams credit for his D, but its stupid. Just **** start him at SF, Young at SG, and Kaman as the spacing can't be worse let alone defense worse than the all Steve back court, and it keeps Dantonis small ball 5 he's been using.

Wes made to check Speights and Diaw in the post, and really his numbers only look bad because of the 1-11 in game 1.

Young used at 3 and let's be real here, he's not used as a scorer, he's used a Pau bailout where he goes nowhere in the post like Kobe got stuck with at least 5 a game.

Meeks is playing well and honestly its bs, he is not getting more of Blake's time as Blake ain't guarding anyone. They've roasted him, Reddick roasted him, Klay roasted him, and whoever he got switched on be it Tony driving, many playing pnr, or Leonard posting him, burned him. He's also shot like ****, and is the guy who couldn't beat out Derek fisher again.

Henry has been a bright spot and used well.

Farmar, no ifs about it, he needs to put Nash's old decrepit ass out to pasture like Old Yeller. I'm talking same way fisher took Harper behind the shed in 01 and never looked back. He needs to be getting 30 minutes as he's the only one on the team dictating anything and making the defense react to him. This ain't even a. Luke and Ariza situation, Luke Walton had and has more game in him than Steve Nash, he'd destroy the guy right now if they rolled a ball out for a roster spot

Props to Rambis though, you see the defensive concepts and principles once the Steve twins sit

[semi-sentient]

With this team I think Kobe might just have a legit shot at breaking the scoring record. He's gonna be gunning when he gets back, and I think I'm OK with that. Let him go bananas the next two seasons, then load up in 2015.

I can't wait for Steve Blake to be out of a job at the end of the season. What a scrub.

[leeprettyp]

With this team I think Kobe might just have a legit shot at breaking the scoring record. He's gonna be gunning when he gets back, and I think I'm OK with that. Let him go bananas the next two seasons, then load up in 2015.

I can't wait for Steve Blake to be out of a job at the end of the season. What a scrub.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[leeprettyp]

Williams should not be on an nba team. Nash is the writing checks your body can't cash guy. johnson is athletic, but not anywhere near producing. Young is a scorer... who can't score.

Young is a scorer who can't score and is getting less minutes than the preseason and his years everywhere else, it's like when Nate Robinson stayed on the doghouse and on a short leash. He's not a shooter. He's a scorer who took a whole 3 shots, dew 6 fts, and was sat in 18 mins.

Hill barely used, Kaman barely used, and yet Williams starts to space the floor despite us never actually sitting him in the corner ala Metta. I will give Williams credit for his D, but its stupid. Just **** start him at SF, Young at SG, and Kaman as the spacing can't be worse let alone defense worse than the all Steve back court, and it keeps Dantonis small ball 5 he's been using.

Wes made to check Speights and Diaw in the post, and really his numbers only look bad because of the 1-11 in game 1.

Young used at 3 and let's be real here, he's not used as a scorer, he's used a Pau bailout where he goes nowhere in the post like Kobe got stuck with at least 5 a game.

Meeks is playing well and honestly its bs, he is not getting more of Blake's time as Blake ain't guarding anyone. They've roasted him, Reddick roasted him, Klay roasted him, and whoever he got switched on be it Tony driving, many playing pnr, or Leonard posting him, burned him. He's also shot like ****, and is the guy who couldn't beat out Derek fisher again.

Henry has been a bright spot and used well.

Farmar, no ifs about it, he needs to put Nash's old decrepit ass out to pasture like Old Yeller. I'm talking same way fisher took Harper behind the shed in 01 and never looked back. He needs to be getting 30 minutes as he's the only one on the team dictating anything and making the defense react to him. This ain't even a. Luke and Ariza situation, Luke Walton had and has more game in him than Steve Nash, he'd destroy the guy right now if they rolled a ball out for a roster spot

Props to Rambis though, you see the defensive concepts and principles once the Steve twins sit

I agree with your last statement. Kurt Rambis is earning his paycheck.. How long before Kurt or either Byron Scott get this coaching dig? lol But lets be real here our bench carries us and our bench is asked of to bring us back into games because our starting lineup isnt bringing it so far. Where Henry Abbott and Colin Cowherd now on how Kobe prevents Steve Nash from having an impact on a game. Anybody with 2 eyes last season could see Nash isnt a threat to get in the paint. And teams were jumping him off the pick n roll on defense and he was turnover prone.

Btw you Nick Young haters amaze me. The guy is on a short leech and its really hard for a scorer to get in a rhythm if he isnt on the floor to make plays. It makes me wonder if you guys knew what we were getting when we signed him. He's a streaky shooter when he's on he can carry an offense for stints in a game. Having him on a short leech isn't helping our team, especially with Kobe out. To be honest in that 4th quarter we really needed a spark on the offensive end last night

[leeprettyp]

Williams,Blake,Young and Nash went 5 for 27 from the field last night smh!!

So cant really single Pau out for this one fellas


Against the Clippers we shot we shot 14/29 from 3
Against the Spurs we shot 8/27 from 3

We're gonna live and die by the 3pt line this season

[DEEP3CL]

We got a few guys here constantly talking "tank"......do guys even realize how hard that is to do ? I mean really unless you're blatantly doing it like Phoenix is trying to do by shedding off all decent talent it can't be done. And hell the Suns just won 2 games....trying to tank.

In reality the real nature of each team will set in a in a few months.Once the scouting reports get nailed down to an exact plan on how to stop teams, then you'll see the tank teams just get the hell beat out of them.

But the Lakers aren't tanking, we just got beat last night because MDA still jerks with rotations. It was always a weak point of his coaching even when he was winning in Phoenix.

I can give the Spurs credit, they're a vet contending team ( though I don't see them coming out the west this year ), they were gonna make the adjustments.

But I know I'll continue to hold to my belief that Farmar needs to start, last night was evident of that. Guys can keep saying he needs to stay with the second unit, but hell even Blake can play with those guys because they can hide his weaknesses.

Our energy to start games is flat due to two guards who are playing in a safety mode rather than being aggressive from the jump. This is where Jordan can be our biggest weapon, plus as a coach you can always flip up the guard with either group at any time. To limit Jordan to just a second unit is just dumb.

[ak7]

We might not be intentionally tanking, but MDA will limit this team's chances of winning on any given night due to his warranted infatuation with Steve Nash.

[leeprettyp]

Laker Nation @LakerNation
Kobe began his three weeks of conditioning this week, per @MarkG_Medina. The countdown begins... #TheReturn

We just gotta keep our heads above water fellas to give Bean the proper amount of time to get back

[IamBBAnalysis]

LOL you know I love it when you do these.. But what has Nash done this season thats warrants any letter grade higher than a D?

Nash was aggressive tonight in driving the lane and that collapsed the defense several times to create open looks for Pau and Blake. His defense has been OK thus far and it hasn't killed us like it did at times last year. His jumper was off like I mentioned but I'd take my chances with Steve finding his stride and shaking off his rust rather than rely on Blake to try to manufacture offense.

Nash at this point of his career may very well be the worst overall starting PG in the NBA right now. Chasing around these starting PG's takes his legs from him and his shot suffers because of it. Face it fellas he's a spot up 3 point shooter in a structured offense. And he definitely isnt a starting PG in the NBA anymore. Man where I think we messed up when getting Nash was not trying to bring over that training/medical staff he had in Phoenix with him lol. As soon as we get him he becomes injury prone lol

I agree with the original poster on Nash. I'm not sure what some of you guys see in all honesty. This was the first game where Nash looked closer to form. But he looked rusty and not with a lot of confidence. But he got tons of open looks for himself and teamates. Definitely a bad game for Nash but much different from all the previous games. You guys are so ready to hate players and right them off. I really don't get it...maybe some emotional thing I don't have.

[IamBBAnalysis]

KEVIN DING ✔ @KevinDing

Through three games, Nick Young is shooting 6 for 22 (27 percent) with one assist in 60 minutes.

Mike Trudell ✔ @LakersReporter

D’Antoni said his focus is on deciding on a rotation ASAP. Wants to get Hill more minutes while still getting Kaman on the floor.

Right. As far as the minutes everyone is complaining about and trying to work themselves into a D'Antonni hate frenzy...it looks like experimenting to me. I was perplexed by not seeing Hill as well. But I think what he was doing now is trying Kaman in the first half and Hill in the 2nd. He's still trying things because of the depth of the team and all the new players.

Yes I understand Williams is not making shots and everyone hates him but as a player the guy does seem to have the ability to play the stretch 4 ok. Everyone seems to focus on made shots so much though.

Anyway, as far as why Williams is playing...to space the floor and to be able to move and help guard on the pick and roll defense. And hopefully not give up rebounding. He really has been unimpressive so far and he may play his way out of the lineup but to suggest he shouldn't have been playing at all is just fans being short sighted.

Take this particular game. The Laker offense with the starters was pretty wide open. Lots of easy looks. However, no one was really making shots. This was the first game though where the offense with the starters showed many wide open looks. Pro players normally make these though. Its a good sign. But there are many tweaks to be made...like getting Gasol closer to the hoop more often and Young getting plays where he is comfortable scoring.

[IamBBAnalysis]

Damn! we should of won that game if only MDA played our bench more minutes then our starters.
Our bench is finally better then our starting line up

- Meeks needs to start driving the lane more and stop shooting 3's only shoot 3's if open or heating up
- Pau/Nash while I love both I hope they aren't back next year
- Hill needs to get more minutes so many of you underestimate what hills presence does out there
- Blake needs to go along with Williams not a fan of either
- Kaman is good off the bench nice shot

When Kobe comes back our line up should be
Pau
Hill
Johnson
Kobe
Farmer < Nash/Blake shouldn't start

Bench
Kaman
Williams
Henry <<< I like Henry but Johnson wins starting role due to defense
Nash/Blake

He did play the bench down the stretch in the 4th and not bring back the starters that were struggling (Nash, Young, Williams) at all. He didn't play Farmar because Farmar is wild, doesn't make great decisions in terms of leading the team, and is a poor defender. So he used Blake. It was a judgement call.

Farmar may have worked better though, to have someone who could get their own shot a little easier. But I do notice he gets tired pretty quickly right now. Maybe Nash would have worked. Its a guessing game. Really easy to say after a loss that it was bad. I thought it was pretty solid strategy at the time. He kept in the big lineup that people seem to be calling for down the stretch (Gasol, Hill, and Wesley Johnson) but they still lost.

[IamBBAnalysis]

On a brighter note... Wes Johnson looked confident out there tonight. Love the effort he plays with on the defensive end

He was really taking pride in D. We need more of that from others.

[IamBBAnalysis]

Who's the best player on this team right now?

Jordan Farmar
Jordan Hill
Xavier Henry
Jodie Meeks
Pau Gasol
Chris Kaman
Wes Johnson
Shawn Williams
Steve Blake
Nick Young
Steve Nash

Nothing really wrong with this list, but I don't think you know which player Meeks is...

I think I'd go with this at this point:
Farmar
Pau
Henry
HIll
Kaman
Johnson
Williams
Blake
Young
Nash

Henry #3 why? He had a good first game but two terrible games. Yes, he has ability and I like him too but people getting a little carried away. He still has to prove himself.

[Kilroy]

Don't look so much at the stats... Henry is the energy/emotion guy for the best lineups we've had on the court so far... When he went down last night, our intensity and execution suffered.

“When X (Xavier) got hurt for whatever reason the air got out of us.” – D’Antoni — Serena Winters (@SerenaWinters) November 2, 2013

[Anklebreaker702]

On officially on the fire D'antoni band wagon. I hate coaches that hold vendetta's at the expense of the team

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What vendetta is this ?

Jordan Hill