Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[BRUNiNHO91]

I like that trade Pogue, get some awkward photos of TOR GM and I think you might have a deal.

I really would like to get Evan Turner out of PHI. Don't know what it would take maybe Bradleyand that same '14 Nets pick.

I really like Evan Turner. The guy can actually dribble a basketball and make a play one on one. I'd trade Bradley for him in a split second. Problem is he's a free agent and will probably ask for more money than he deserves.

As for Bradley, I do wonder what his trade value is around the league..

[soxfan2003]

I like that trade Pogue, get some awkward photos of TOR GM and I think you might have a deal.

I really would like to get Evan Turner out of PHI. Don't know what it would take maybe Bradleyand that same '14 Nets pick.

I really like Evan Turner. The guy can actually dribble a basketball and make a play one on one. I'd trade Bradley for him in a split second. Problem is he's a free agent and will probably ask for more money than he deserves.

As for Bradley, I do wonder what his trade value is around the league..

Wild guess here....I suspect a first round pick in the 15-25 range right now. Last years playoffs did not help his stock and he is about to be a restricted FA.

So I don't think Bradley's trade value throughout the league is that high right now even though ESPN ranked him relatively high before the season and he did make 2nd team all NBA defense.

There are two teams in which I think he could actually help in the playoffs.

1) Houston. With Harden to handle the ball, Bradley doesn't have to do as much on offense. And with Howard on defense, he can afford to be aggressive on defense. Bradley I think is a nice fit for Houston since he could guard the following players in the playoffs. 1) Westbroook 2) Parker 3) Curry 4) Chris Paul and potentially Wade in the finals. Houston could just use him as an energy player coming off the bench that tries to contain these scoring point guards whenever they get hot. And wears them down a bit.

2) Warriors. Curry is not a strong defender and the Warriors defense would probably be substantially improved if they got Bradley. The problem is there offense would decline and he clearly doesn't deserve to start on the Warriors or really contend for a starting spot so I don't think Bradley is a good fit from that perspective.

[bbd24]

Bos Trades: Gerald Wallace, Marshon Brooks, 2nd round pick

For

Sac Trades: John Salmons, Jimmer Fredette

Celtics eat Salmons contract for one less year of Wallaces, and acquire Jimmer Fredette's expiring contract this year. Can choose to keep Fredette or let him walk next summer.

Celtics do it to get out from under Wallace's contract earlier. They also give Fredette a chance to prove himself in the league.

Kings do it to upgrade their 3 spot by adding Wallace. Wallace > Salmons ..... Kings just declined Fredette's option as he's the odd man out in the guard rotation. (Vasquez, Thomas, Thornton, Mclemore)

[Takingbaconback]

Would you guys do this trade?

Derrick Williams and Shabazz for Jeff Green? Or is Boston looking to build around Jeff Green?

[bucknersrevenge]

I like that trade Pogue, get some awkward photos of TOR GM and I think you might have a deal.

I really would like to get Evan Turner out of PHI. Don't know what it would take maybe Bradleyand that same '14 Nets pick.

I really like Evan Turner. The guy can actually dribble a basketball and make a play one on one. I'd trade Bradley for him in a split second. Problem is he's a free agent and will probably ask for more money than he deserves.

As for Bradley, I do wonder what his trade value is around the league..

Wild guess here....I suspect a first round pick in the 15-25 range right now. Last years playoffs did not help his stock and he is about to be a restricted FA.

So I don't think Bradley's trade value throughout the league is that high right now even though ESPN ranked him relatively high before the season and he did make 2nd team all NBA defense.

There are two teams in which I think he could actually help in the playoffs.

1) Houston. With Harden to handle the ball, Bradley doesn't have to do as much on offense. And with Howard on defense, he can afford to be aggressive on defense. Bradley I think is a nice fit for Houston since he could guard the following players in the playoffs. 1) Westbroook 2) Parker 3) Curry 4) Chris Paul and potentially Wade in the finals. Houston could just use him as an energy player coming off the bench that tries to contain these scoring point guards whenever they get hot. And wears them down a bit.

2) Warriors. Curry is not a strong defender and the Warriors defense would probably be substantially improved if they got Bradley. The problem is there offense would decline and he clearly doesn't deserve to start on the Warriors or really contend for a starting spot so I don't think Bradley is a good fit from that perspective.

Houston does make the most sense and your assessment of his value is pretty dead on I think.

[brackdan70]

Eric Bledsoe; Greg Monroe & Gordon Hayward -- They'll all be FA's. And are all 23 years old. I say trade for them, if feasible. Or, go after them in Free Agency.

Eric Bledsoe stats
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... ic-bledsoe

Greg Monroe article
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-greg-m ... --nba.html

Gordon Hayward stats
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4249/gordon-hayward

I don't think Cs will have the cap space to sign any of those guys...need to pull off trades.
I like Monroe and / or Hayward. we would have to part with Green I think as well as picks..or Rondo, maybe near the trade deadline we could get one of these guys at a bit of a bargain if their teams don't think they can or want to match an Offer sheet.
i think if the Pistons are playing really well..they won't let Monroe go cheap and may be interested in matching an Offer sheet.
I think Hayward we could possibly pull away but be prepared to match any offer sheet if we do. Utah also has 2.5 million under the cap so could take on a smidgen of Salary.
Green, Crawford, Brooks and 2015 lesser pick for Hayward and Marvin Williams?. or for Bass and Lee and both 2015 picks?

[sdballer]

Bos Trades: Gerald Wallace, Marshon Brooks, 2nd round pick

For

Sac Trades: John Salmons, Jimmer Fredette

Celtics eat Salmons contract for one less year of Wallaces, and acquire Jimmer Fredette's expiring contract this year. Can choose to keep Fredette or let him walk next summer.

Celtics do it to get out from under Wallace's contract earlier. They also give Fredette a chance to prove himself in the league.

Kings do it to upgrade their 3 spot by adding Wallace. Wallace > Salmons ..... Kings just declined Fredette's option as he's the odd man out in the guard rotation. (Vasquez, Thomas, Thornton, Mclemore)

Salmons is basically an expiring due to a small guarantee for next year. Sac would never take on that much long term salary for a guy who is basically breaking down.

[Pacino62]

Eric Bledsoe; Greg Monroe & Gordon Hayward -- They'll all be FA's. And are all 23 years old. I say trade for them, if feasible. Or, go after them in Free Agency.

Eric Bledsoe stats
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... ic-bledsoe

Greg Monroe article
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-greg-m ... --nba.html

Gordon Hayward stats
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4249/gordon-hayward

I don't think Cs will have the cap space to sign any of those guys...need to pull off trades.
I like Monroe and / or Hayward. we would have to part with Green I think as well as picks..or Rondo, maybe near the trade deadline we could get one of these guys at a bit of a bargain if their teams don't think they can or want to match an Offer sheet.
i think if the Pistons are playing really well..they won't let Monroe go cheap and may be interested in matching an Offer sheet.
I think Hayward we could possibly pull away but be prepared to match any offer sheet if we do. Utah also has 2.5 million under the cap so could take on a smidgen of Salary.
Green, Crawford, Brooks and 2015 lesser pick for Hayward and Marvin Williams?. or for Bass and Lee and both 2015 picks?

I think we are good partners with Detroit. I think Bradley would complement Billups and Jennings well in the backcourt. Would Bradley and some draft picks be enough? Probably not.

[Elrod is Back]

I would imagine Danny would not mind unloading some of the contacts that extend past this year and get draft picks and expiring deals in return.

I assume Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace are basically untradeable.

The most likely candidate to go is Brandon Bass. A team like the Wizards could use him and have expiring deals to make it work. The Cs could get a future protected no. 1 in 2016 or 2017. Maybe have to take two or three no. 2 picks instead.

Bass had value and is a solid player. But right now he is taking minutes away from Sully and KO. So he is the best bet to go, if Danny can find a buyer.

The second most likely to go is Avery Bradley. The key issue the Cs need to determine is whether he can be a starting 2 guard in the NBA on a winning team. If so, sign him to a deal this off-season. If they determine he cannot--and right now it is a 50-50 proposition in my mind-- then trade him and get something for him, because someone will be willing to take that risk in free agency. His defense is that good.

I think this is why Danny did not extend AB before the deadline. If AB cannot be a starting 2 guard, then a four year $30 million deal is not going to work with the new salary and luxury tax guidelines in the NBA CBA.

Because Bradley is young and had a low salary he will be easy to trade. The Cs should be able to get at least one no. 1 pick, and possibly two. I would imagine contending teams would kill to have a stopper like AB to create hell in the playoffs.

The third pick (and least likely) is Jeff Green. If the Cs decide he is not the answer, then trade him and get something for the future.I suspect a team like Milwaukee might give two no. 1 picks for Green along with an expiring deal.

Finally, I do not see the Cs trading Rondo.

[brackdan70]

I would imagine Danny would not mind unloading some of the contacts that extend past this year and get draft picks and expiring deals in return.

I assume Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace are basically untradeable.

The most likely candidate to go is Brandon Bass. A team like the Wizards could use him and have expiring deals to make it work. The Cs could get a future protected no. 1 in 2016 or 2017. Maybe have to take two or three no. 2 picks instead.

Bass had value and is a solid player. But right now he is taking minutes away from Sully and KO. So he is the best bet to go, if Danny can find a buyer.

The second most likely to go is Avery Bradley. The key issue the Cs need to determine is whether he can be a starting 2 guard in the NBA on a winning team. If so, sign him to a deal this off-season. If they determine he cannot--and right now it is a 50-50 proposition in my mind-- then trade him and get something for him, because someone will be willing to take that risk in free agency. His defense is that good.

I think this is why Danny did not extend AB before the deadline. If AB cannot be a starting 2 guard, then a four year $30 million deal is not going to work with the new salary and luxury tax guidelines in the NBA CBA.

Because Bradley is young and had a low salary he will be easy to trade. The Cs should be able to get at least one no. 1 pick, and possibly two. I would imagine contending teams would kill to have a stopper like AB to create hell in the playoffs.

The third pick (and least likely) is Jeff Green. If the Cs decide he is not the answer, then trade him and get something for the future.I suspect a team like Milwaukee might give two no. 1 picks for Green along with an expiring deal.

Finally, I do not see the Cs trading Rondo.

I think you are drastically overestimating the value of these players.
No way you can get a first round pick back for Bass.
best case for AB is you could get one but would have to be part of a larger deal and I don't think the cs are in position to take on Salary. Green is a good asset and you could probably get a first round pick for him, but two? I doubt it.

[Fabulous Melo]

I would imagine Danny would not mind unloading some of the contacts that extend past this year and get draft picks and expiring deals in return.

I assume Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace are basically untradeable.

The most likely candidate to go is Brandon Bass. A team like the Wizards could use him and have expiring deals to make it work. The Cs could get a future protected no. 1 in 2016 or 2017. Maybe have to take two or three no. 2 picks instead.

Bass had value and is a solid player. But right now he is taking minutes away from Sully and KO. So he is the best bet to go, if Danny can find a buyer.

The second most likely to go is Avery Bradley. The key issue the Cs need to determine is whether he can be a starting 2 guard in the NBA on a winning team. If so, sign him to a deal this off-season. If they determine he cannot--and right now it is a 50-50 proposition in my mind-- then trade him and get something for him, because someone will be willing to take that risk in free agency. His defense is that good.

I think this is why Danny did not extend AB before the deadline. If AB cannot be a starting 2 guard, then a four year $30 million deal is not going to work with the new salary and luxury tax guidelines in the NBA CBA.

Because Bradley is young and had a low salary he will be easy to trade. The Cs should be able to get at least one no. 1 pick, and possibly two. I would imagine contending teams would kill to have a stopper like AB to create hell in the playoffs.

The third pick (and least likely) is Jeff Green. If the Cs decide he is not the answer, then trade him and get something for the future.I suspect a team like Milwaukee might give two no. 1 picks for Green along with an expiring deal.

Finally, I do not see the Cs trading Rondo.

I think you are drastically overestimating the value of these players.
No way you can get a first round pick back for Bass.
best case for AB is you could get one but would have to be part of a larger deal and I don't think the cs are in position to take on Salary. Green is a good asset and you could probably get a first round pick for him, but two? I doubt it.

1st round for Bass is pretty realistic, especially if you consider that this pick will come from a contender, so will be something around 20-30. I can totally see somebody like Houston offering a 1st pick for Bass if he keeps playing like this.

[Pogue Mahone]

Once Rondo is back, I wouldn't mind trying to steal a few minutes at SF with Brandon Bass in a Darvin Ham or Gary Trent-like role. It would cut down on his negative rotations and, if it worked, would expand his overall value.

Not completely trade related but more value related.

[brackdan70]

I would imagine Danny would not mind unloading some of the contacts that extend past this year and get draft picks and expiring deals in return.

I assume Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace are basically untradeable.

The most likely candidate to go is Brandon Bass. A team like the Wizards could use him and have expiring deals to make it work. The Cs could get a future protected no. 1 in 2016 or 2017. Maybe have to take two or three no. 2 picks instead.

Bass had value and is a solid player. But right now he is taking minutes away from Sully and KO. So he is the best bet to go, if Danny can find a buyer.

The second most likely to go is Avery Bradley. The key issue the Cs need to determine is whether he can be a starting 2 guard in the NBA on a winning team. If so, sign him to a deal this off-season. If they determine he cannot--and right now it is a 50-50 proposition in my mind-- then trade him and get something for him, because someone will be willing to take that risk in free agency. His defense is that good.

I think this is why Danny did not extend AB before the deadline. If AB cannot be a starting 2 guard, then a four year $30 million deal is not going to work with the new salary and luxury tax guidelines in the NBA CBA.

Because Bradley is young and had a low salary he will be easy to trade. The Cs should be able to get at least one no. 1 pick, and possibly two. I would imagine contending teams would kill to have a stopper like AB to create hell in the playoffs.

The third pick (and least likely) is Jeff Green. If the Cs decide he is not the answer, then trade him and get something for the future.I suspect a team like Milwaukee might give two no. 1 picks for Green along with an expiring deal.

Finally, I do not see the Cs trading Rondo.

I think you are drastically overestimating the value of these players.
No way you can get a first round pick back for Bass.
best case for AB is you could get one but would have to be part of a larger deal and I don't think the cs are in position to take on Salary. Green is a good asset and you could probably get a first round pick for him, but two? I doubt it.

1st round for Bass is pretty realistic, especially if you consider that this pick will come from a contender, so will be something around 20-30. I can totally see somebody like Houston offering a 1st pick for Bass if he keeps playing like this.

I think we will have to agree to disagree there. if Houston thinks a player like Bass will put them over the top come trade deadline time, they could do a lot better if they are willing to give up a first rounder. I'd love to be wrong in this case and hope something like that happens..but i think its dreaming.

[MKG35]

I really would like to get Evan Turner out of PHI. Don't know what it would take maybe Bradleyand that same '14 Nets pick.

I was thinking of Turner as well since they didn't give him an extension. Which position will he play at, 2 or 3? I rather see Jeff Green at the 3 and have an actual 4 and 5. I don't like this small ball approach.


Or you turn it around and you get rid of Wallace/Green/... and try to get Turner somehow.

Eric Bledsoe; Greg Monroe & Gordon Hayward -- They'll all be FA's. And are all 23 years old. I say trade for them, if feasible. Or, go after them in Free Agency.

Monroe? I don't even think that's possible.

[sully00]

Would you guys do this trade?

Derrick Williams and Shabazz for Jeff Green? Or is Boston looking to build around Jeff Green?

Build around Green? No. Build with Green probably yes but this team is also 0-3 and not exactly looking like it has a lot of the right ingredients so I would say that Boston will probably be interested in such a concept if that doesn't change when Rondo returns. It also would have to mean that Williams stop being average and Shabazz straighten out his act.

[Slartibartfast]

Any Hump ideas?

We're not likely to have any cap space next year so I don't think Danny would have any problems taking back an extra year of salary in the deal.

Humphries for Steve Nash - Lakers free up $9.7 mil for the free agency bonanza next year. Celtics get a quality back-up PG, shooter and veteran leader. In the event that Nash's back is cooked, we're essentially rolling over Humphries contract as financial ballast.

Hump for Bargnani - in case the Knicks want a little tax relief next year. Bargs is pretty awful, but we do need some jump-shooting and, again, we could trade him as an expiring next year.

[24istheLAW]

Build around Green? No. Build with Green probably yes but this team is also 0-3 and not exactly looking like it has a lot of the right ingredients so I would say that Boston will probably be interested in such a concept if that doesn't change when Rondo returns. It also would have to mean that Williams stop being average and Shabazz straighten out his act.

Williams reminds me of Green, in that there's a lot of aspects of his game that are nice in a vacuum, but when you put it together the whole is less than the sum of its parts.

So even if Williams doesn't stop being average, he's just a lateral move from Green who is being average, with some upside and a lower price tag.

I'd just look as the trade as a Green-Williams swap, with Muhammad as a throw-in to be honest. If you think Williams is more valuable than Green you can do the trade and just cut Shabazz.

[stiles21]

I like Gordon Hayward but I think I would be careful going after a guy like that. A good player in a contract year getting a ton of minutes on a bad team... That seems like the perfect situation for Hayward to get overpaid and we have enough bad contracts. I wouldn't want to pay him more than around 8MIl but you got to assume he's getting more than that, right?

[ddb]

I would love to see the following trade

Green/Bradley/Brooks to Utah for Hayward/Jefferson

Reunite Stevens and Hayward. Give him the Jeff Green $$ at the end of the season. 4-years 9-10 per. Jefferson comes off the books. Hopefully Celts have 1 of the top picks and can land Wiggins or Parker. Let's say they land Parker.

[Slartibartfast]

I would love to see the following trade

Green/Bradley/Brooks to Utah for Hayward/Jefferson

Reunite Stevens and Hayward. Give him the Jeff Green $$ at the end of the season. 4-years 9-10 per. Jefferson comes off the books. Hopefully Celts have 1 of the top picks and can land Wiggins or Parker. Let's say they land Parker.

That's a steep price to pay for Hayward. Is he any better than Jeff Green? And throwing in Bradley? Ouch.

I know Bradley looks terrible as a PG, but his defense is still off the charts and he's got the offensive game to be productive off-the-ball (transition scorer, cutter, corner 3 shooter).