Should Lin come off the bench?

[bballfanatic81]

The defense Lin puton Chris Paul was the absolute worst defense i have ever seen on CP3.

Nobody on the Rockets was playing defense worth a damn--its not like Harden was doing a good job on Redick. Lin didn't have a great night, but he was far from the primary reason Houston lost.

He didn't say Lin was the primary reason Houston lost. He said that was the worst defense he's seen played on Paul.

He is pointing out an isolated incident and giving an opinion on it. Stop deflecting blame and accept it.

dumb statements from a bunch of ignorant lin haters watch the game sometime. lin played paul decently all game.

[No35]

The defense Lin puton Chris Paul was the absolute worst defense i have ever seen on CP3.

So, Stephy Curry giving up 42 was a good job.

Lin held him to about 10 points on sub 50% shooting until CPflop flopped his way to a 5th foul in the 4th.

What do you expect a guy with 5 fouls to do?

[inquisitive]

The defense Lin puton Chris Paul was the absolute worst defense i have ever seen on CP3.

nah...guess you didnt see cp3 put 42pts and 15ast on curry.

[Zubby]

Maybe Patrick Beverley is the Claude Makélélé of PG's.

[orlandomanic]

After watching last night, i bet Dwight is really regretting not teaming up with CP3 on the Clippers, Mavs, or Hawks. now he is stuck with Lin ask his PG

[Zubby]

After watching last night, i bet Dwight is really regretting not teaming up with CP3 on the Clippers, Mavs, or Hawks. now he is stuck with Lin ask his PG

Not just Lin... no one on that team knows how throw an entry pass.
But I doubt he is regretting anything yet, it will take some time.

[13th Man]

Yes, Lin is a pretty horrible PG, but an above average ball dominate undersized shooting guard like Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, or Bobby Jackson.

he is a poor defender, below average 3pt shooter, below average passer, but an above average player when it comes to creating his own shot.

he shouldn't start, but he should dominate the ball when Harden goes out and go up against the other team's second unit. but in the last five minutes of the game you could use a line up of Dwight/Parson/Harden/Lin/Beverley if the teams wants to go small and get some 3pt shooting around Dwight.

lol at people making comments without watching games

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about or even know basketball or player evaluation

You shouldn't talk. Did you even watch the game? If you did you would have realized that CP3 scored a bulk of his points while Lin had 5 fouls, which a couple of them were fantom calls resulted from some good CP3 acting.

[Zubby]

You shouldn't talk. Did you even watch the game? If you did you would have realized that CP3 scored a bulk of his points while Lin had 5 fouls, which a couple of them were fantom calls resulted from some good CP3 acting.

You can only blame the refs so much they were bad but Rox got smashed.

[13th Man]

You shouldn't talk. Did you even watch the game? If you did you would have realized that CP3 scored a bulk of his points while Lin had 5 fouls, which a couple of them were fantom calls resulted from some good CP3 acting.

You can only blame the refs so much they were bad but Rox got smashed.

There's no denying that the Clippers were running on all cylinders and deserved the win. Just wanted to point out that CP3 was kept in check scoring-wise for the most part until Lin had 5 fouls and played little defense on him.

[HotRocks34]

Lin played great last night. 8 assists and 1 turnover with 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

[13th Man]

Lin played great last night. 8 turnovers and 1 assist and 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

Nice post. Aside from one game this year I'm noticing that he doesn't pick up his dribble as much when roaming around inside looking for options. That was a big problem for him last year where he'd get lost in mid-air or pick up his dribble without anyone to pass to. Now he's seemingly better at getting the heck out of there when there's nothing going on lol.

[HotRocks34]

Lin played great last night. 8 turnovers and 1 assist and 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

Nice post. Aside from one game this year I'm noticing that he doesn't pick up his dribble as much when roaming around inside looking for options. That was a big problem for him last year where he'd get lost in mid-air or pick up his dribble without anyone to pass to. Now he's seemingly better at getting the heck out of there when there's nothing going on lol.

Great point. This is still one of his biggest problems, getting hung up on drives rather than keeping his dribble, but he is improving.

Look, like a year ago people were saying he couldn't dribble with his left hand or drive left. That's over. So I imagine that, in time, the "hung up on drives" issue will lessen as well.

He's still got a long ways to go. But he now appears to understand which direction he needs to be heading. He's playing great, I'm pumped. Games like last night will happen for the team. But if Lin can keep playing like this, then he and the team will thrive, IMO.

[Zubby]

Lin played great last night. 8 assists and 1 turnover with 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

In the end this is all that matters, Rox get smashed, Lin has "great" numbers, everyone is happy...
Wait


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[bklynstoops]

Lin played great last night. 8 assists and 1 turnover with 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

In the end this is all that matters, Rox get smashed, Lin has "great" numbers, everyone is happy...
Wait


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so, as a Rockets fan, despite a lazy uninspired loss, you don't see the bright side of watching your young PG develop and get better? So odd.

[Peregrine01]

Like most teams, the Rockets struggle with their pick and roll defense and last night was just a clinic from the Clippers.

Defense may continue to be a problem for the Rockets like it was last year. They are an outstanding rebounding team but I don't think the addition of Howard changes a lot on that end.

[HotRocks34]

Lin played great last night. 8 assists and 1 turnover with 14 points on 8 shots. Beverley, in my opinion, is not slowing down Chris Paul. If you think he is, watch the first few minutes of the Charlotte game from this season. Or watch him against Reggie Jackson in the playoffs last year.

Chris Paul's PER coming into last night's game was 37.6. After last night's game it was 37.8. So, he did against Lin what he has done against 3 other teams this season. My guess is that if Beverley plays, Chris Paul plays the same way but you get less offensive production from Beverley than what you got from Lin.

What I was happy about with Lin last night was that he did not force the action. He's finally learning to play under control, steady.

His PER is now like 19.4. During Linsanity, it was about 19.9. He's playing great, improving, playing more consistently, etc.

We'll see what McHale does as regards starter/bench. I honestly don't care as regards Lin if he keeps playing this way. This is how he needs to play in this system and this is how he needs to play if he is going to continue to improve as a player. He's learning to play at different speeds, rather than just always be in 100% Attack (and Turnover) Mode all the time.

Also, his shooting is much better, it seems.

In the end this is all that matters, Rox get smashed, Lin has "great" numbers, everyone is happy...
Wait


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No, actually I was unhappy about the outcome last night. But games like this happen. If LAC hits 15 threes on a 40% clip and CP3 is still on his I Own The Universe roll, we're probably not winning the game. Which is what I predicted yesterday here on the forums, a loss.

Since the loss took place, I am glad that it simultaneously occurred with Lin playing a controlled, measured game that was efficient. He's leading the team in points-per-field-goal-attempt and he's starting to take the next step. Great. That makes me happy. I can be both unhappy with the loss and happy for one player's showing. Kind of like walking and chewing gum at the same time, I guess.

[Hassassin]

Some Lin numbers from NBA's player tracking data:

- 1st in the league in total drives (48) and drives per game (12)
- Shoots 52.9% on his drives
- Averaged 7.5 points on his drives, ranks 5th
- 1st in team PPG when he drives to the basket (15)

[KungFuJoe]

I still think it's nuts how Lin just goes by anyone whenever he wants. I watch him play and he doesn't seem THAT quick, but no one can stay in front of him. His only issue is when that 2nd and 3rd defender comes to help, but no single guy can stay in front of him. And it's not like he has a wide variety of moves...but dat first step...unstoppable.

[Kupchak9]

Yeah Lin's first step is one of the fastest/explosive in the league, but he simply just does not have the agility to get passed second defenders the way guys like CP3, Rose and Parker can.

[bigbreakfast]

i don't get it, lin's defense has been pretty good. he struggles situationally, but many players do. just don't get how ppl continue to hate on him for his defense after the other guy on his team mailed in one of the worst defensive performances of all time.