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Post#1 » by MKL » Wed Nov 6, 2013 9:43 pm

I want to talk about stuff that is politically impossible by the main stream media.

The rah rah go Rockets is everywhere and I LOVE THE ROCKETS.

There is so many interesting topics that paid writers are afraid of.

Kevin McHale:


Such as, I originally thought Morey hired McHale as a tank commander. There were also rumors that McHale wanted to coach for the Celtics. McHale is a short term solution and expendable. Coaches have a very small window to win before they are fired. McHale has one of the worst W/L record as a professional coach on a contending champion level team. He also barely has any playoff experience at his position.

I'm going to keep updating this thread to keep the conversation moving. Also, this is not a troll topic. Keep the conversation about the Rockets franchise. No personal attacks and accusation of disloyalty. Also, mods, if this topic is too hot, feel free to delete it anytime. I don't know what kind of pressure you guys are under.
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Post#2 » by Mr. E » Wed Nov 6, 2013 9:55 pm

I don't care about his two interim stints as a coach of the Wolves. Since becoming the Rockets head coach he has a .543 winning percentage and his first season he had Luis Scola as his best player.

The next season he only returned two players from the previous year. Many saw Asik, Lin and even Harden as unproven risks. Mid-season he had his starting AND backup power forwards traded on the same day.

This season the Rockets are a championship contender. So far McHale has done way better than most expected with what he had.

I have heard plenty of criticism about McHale's coaching, but for the most part he has done a very good job so far and that's why you aren't seeing the beat writers beating him up in their articles.
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Post#3 » by moofs » Wed Nov 6, 2013 10:08 pm

Well, that and Solomon wouldn't know "logic" or "coherent english" if one of them ramrodded 47 PSI/s of compressed farts up his nostrils.
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Post#4 » by MKL » Wed Nov 6, 2013 10:13 pm

Good post Mr.E

I personally think the pressure is on McHale. Luckily the team is responding well with a 4/1 record. The best in the western conference.

How will the Rockets respond to the Clips for the rematch at home? The Twin Towers got wrecked. I wouldn't want to be McHale.

I believe Jason Kidd and McHale are on the same boat. "Why would they choose that guy to be the coach to win it all."
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Post#5 » by Mr. E » Wed Nov 6, 2013 10:14 pm

The Chronicle expects people to be digital subscribers to read his articles. :D


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Post#6 » by Nebula1 » Wed Nov 6, 2013 10:22 pm

Mr. E wrote:The Chronicle expects people to be digital subscribers to read his articles. :D


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I don't know why publishing companies expect this business model to work. I just go elsewhere as a reader.

Now if the publisher wanted to have subscribers, then make it free like and improve revenue with advertising revenue.

Anyway, I'm not a big McHale fan, but he will be good at leading a team with such high expectations.
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Post#7 » by moofs » Wed Nov 6, 2013 10:29 pm

Mr. E wrote:The Chronicle expects people to be digital subscribers to read his articles. :D


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Wait, people PAY to read things Jerome Solomon "wrote"?

I may be in the wrong line of work.
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Post#8 » by MKL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 4:33 am

Feigan just wrote a piece on how awesome guys Beverley and Casspi are.

So, reading between the lines of that teaser, when can I expect Beverley and Casspi to start games?
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Post#9 » by kam_soluusar » Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:59 am

I am a big fan of the "If the situation fits" starting line-up.

Rotate Lin and Capt. Same for Asik and Casspi if we need to start smaller. I think Asik will be moved, (more than likey at the deadline.) It's sad, but a very distinct possibility. It's also too early in the season to beat up on MchHale. wait until we have some sort of losing streak come together.
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Post#10 » by Sasaki » Thu Nov 7, 2013 10:14 am

Also, mods, if this topic is too hot, feel free to delete it anytime. I don't know what kind of pressure you guys are under.

Really? This is basketball we're talking about, not some government secrets. Get some perspective, man. And if the beat writers' columns meant anything, Morey would have been fired about 15 times by now.
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Post#11 » by MKL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 3:49 pm

Sasaki wrote:
Also, mods, if this topic is too hot, feel free to delete it anytime. I don't know what kind of pressure you guys are under.

Really? This is basketball we're talking about, not some government secrets. Get some perspective, man. And if the beat writers' columns meant anything, Morey would have been fired about 15 times by now.


My original point is to concentrate on forum discussion. Sometimes discussions get heated, people have different perspective and opinion.

Beat writers often have to stick to their talking points and I honestly believe some of them only goes through the motions to earn a paycheck.

However, casual sports fans often take on the narrative of beat writers or sports personalities. Sometimes they legitimatize certain views of fans. It is a little bit similar to a food chain.

Sometimes I think to myself how come beat writers don't criticize James Harden's turnovers and defensive effort? The forums talk about it, they even post videos. The Cron and NBA.com don't even acknowledge the issue.

Forums also talk about players on PED especially HGH. You think beat writers will talk about Wade and HGH?
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Post#12 » by LarsV8 » Thu Nov 7, 2013 4:16 pm

For the media being afraid to talk about it, they sure do talk about it alot.

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Post#13 » by moofs » Thu Nov 7, 2013 4:17 pm

All non-listener-funded media has native conflict of interest.

Easy.

Side note, any possibility of Wade using HGH, is maybe 1/10000 as frustrating as bad refereeing.
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Post#14 » by MKL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 5:19 pm

LarsV8 wrote:For the media being afraid to talk about it, they sure do talk about it alot.

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good post. I mean it.

Now I want Feigan to write a full piece on it. Also, during the Tmac/Yao era, Feigan was my favorite writer. But this year I see that The Cron has other Rockets writers too. I feel that Feigan was pushed to the background.

I haven't seen Feigan write like he used to. In fact Friedman from NBA/Rockets stopped doing podcast and currently writes more in a bland style. Not as insightful compared to previous season. But that might be because of the tampering fine he received.
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Post#15 » by hayden » Thu Nov 7, 2013 6:38 pm

Yeah, McHale has done pretty well on the whole. The fact that Houston had such a great running game last year surprised me. Didn't think he was capable of coaching such an offense.

My issues are more with his personnel managing / rotations: giving Harden too much slack, starting Asik, starting Beverley (we'll see what comes of that).
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Post#16 » by MKL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:55 pm

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... -progress/

Steve Kerr advocates "better fit" for Beverley, but does a 180 for Asik. Little hypocritical Steve?
Also, Kerr was a softy as a player. You think GM Steve would have benched Player Steve?

“It’s not an ideal fit, but I think it makes sense to start Asik and buy some minutes for him at the beginning of the game. He’s not a guy you can play 10 to 12 minutes a game. He’s an elite defender. If you want to trade him, you have to showcase him. You can’t just bring him in for Dwight. You have to find a few minutes on the floor with them together.


As for the guard rotation, Kerr likes Patrick Beverly as starter and Jeremy Lin off the bench. Beverly, he said, “may be the toughest guy on the team. He makes the gritty hustle plays nad has a ton of heart. (James) Harden and Howard will score, but they need guys around to give the team more grit. Beverly does that.”
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Post#17 » by Sasaki » Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:54 pm

MKL wrote:good post. I mean it.

Now I want Feigan to write a full piece on it. Also, during the Tmac/Yao era, Feigan was my favorite writer. But this year I see that The Cron has other Rockets writers too. I feel that Feigan was pushed to the background.

I haven't seen Feigan write like he used to. In fact Friedman from NBA/Rockets stopped doing podcast and currently writes more in a bland style. Not as insightful compared to previous season. But that might be because of the tampering fine he received.

A full piece on what? "James Harden turns the ball over a lot?" There. Done. There's your article. You complain about Friedman being bland, but he mentioned the turnover problem and singled out Harden and Howard for it in the last recap. I mean, The Dreamshake hasn't written any specific articles on Harden's turnovers. Neither has Red94. Why don't you rant about them, especially since I hold those websites to a higher standards than the Comicle?
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Post#18 » by MKL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 11:33 pm

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MKL wrote:good post. I mean it.

Now I want Feigan to write a full piece on it. Also, during the Tmac/Yao era, Feigan was my favorite writer. But this year I see that The Cron has other Rockets writers too. I feel that Feigan was pushed to the background.

I haven't seen Feigan write like he used to. In fact Friedman from NBA/Rockets stopped doing podcast and currently writes more in a bland style. Not as insightful compared to previous season. But that might be because of the tampering fine he received.

A full piece on what? "James Harden turns the ball over a lot?" There. Done. There's your article. You complain about Friedman being bland, but he mentioned the turnover problem and singled out Harden and Howard for it in the last recap. I mean, The Dreamshake hasn't written any specific articles on Harden's turnovers. Neither has Red94. Why don't you rant about them, especially since I hold those websites to a higher standards than the Comicle?


Feel free to keep feeding me ideas.

"James Harden turns the ball over a lot?", That's a start. Holding the players accountable and not breaking plays to heroball. Not flopping and embarrassing the team, some effort on defense. That's enough material for a good article. Something Zack Lowe could write. Maybe put in some Wade comparison at similar age and career.

Friedman used to be really good with his weekly podcasts, he would talk in detail about the team and reasons for lineups and strategy, etc. Currently, it's just not there anymore. It's dry and reads like company shill.

As for Dreamhake and Red94, those are blogs. I hold them to same standard as Bleechers Report, which is not very high.
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Post#19 » by Sasaki » Fri Nov 8, 2013 11:28 am

So, the fact that the Rockets official website, or the Comicle ( seriously, TDS and Red94 produce far better writing than that newspaper - the Chronicle is, and has always been, a joke) don't produce articles on how much Harden sucks means some conspiracy to stifle dissent, as your OP implied ( I can't get over your idiotic "please delete if there is pressure" statement - if the Rockets functioned like that, Clutchfans would have been shut down five years ago, and we would be all the better off for it).

God, I've liked Lin this season so far, but his fans are even more insufferable this season.
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Post#20 » by adrenaLINe » Fri Nov 8, 2013 1:01 pm

Sasaki wrote:So, the fact that the Rockets official website, or the Comicle ( seriously, TDS and Red94 produce far better writing than that newspaper - the Chronicle is, and has always been, a joke) don't produce articles on how much Harden sucks means some conspiracy to stifle dissent, as your OP implied ( I can't get over your idiotic "please delete if there is pressure" statement - if the Rockets functioned like that, Clutchfans would have been shut down five years ago, and we would be all the better off for it).

God, I've liked Lin this season so far, but his fans are even more insufferable this season.


thats because Lin is basically, the last player we should be complaining about, in this new season...

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