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Icness wrote:
If he's not fully committed to embracing the physical and mental demands of the NFL, why keep playing? .
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
LAKESHOW wrote:ehh, I don't like that coaching staff and GM anyways, they need to be fired. Just for the hell of it.
Inevitable wrote:Geddy is a good mod actually
ESPN analyst and former Dolphins wide receiver Cris Carter has know Mike Pouncey since the player's childhood. Today Carter said on air he recently spoke to Mike Pouncey and the center, who is Incognito's friend, addressed race.
"They don't feel as if he's a racist, they don't feel as if he picked on Jonathan repeatedly and bullied him, but if they could do it all over again there would be situations that they might change but they’re very, very comfortable with Richie,” Carter said.
“They think it’s sad, not only that Jonathan’s not on the football team, but also that Richie is being depicted as a bigot and as a racist.”
How is this possible?
Well, I've spoken to multiple people today about this and the explanation from all of them is that in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.
And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.
"Richie is honarary," one player who left the Dolphins this offseason told me today. "I don't expect you to understand because you're not black. But being a black guy, being a brother is more than just about skin color. It's about how you carry yourself. How you play. Where you come from. What you've experienced. A lot of things."
Another former Dolphins employee told me Martin is considered "soft" by his teammates and that's a reason he's not readily accepted by some of the players, particularly the black players. His background -- Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people -- was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some players and it perpetuated in the way Martin carried himself.
And so -- agree with it or not, comprehend it or not -- this is a reason the Dolphins haven't turned on Incognito as a racist.
WayOfWade+1 wrote:Just another angle to it, here is one of the posts I saw :
"Emotional Distress"........ $$$$ Harvard educated lawyer parents know how to get cash out of the NFL. Find a racially insensitive phone message, and save it for a rainy day... like when you feel like going AWOL. Pretty sad.
This pretty much sums it up!
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
trwi7 wrote:Why the hell wouldn't you want Martin on your team? Your whole paragraph about giving Martin some blame is **** ridiculous, especially after reading your $.10 column.
DAVIE, Fla. -- Miami Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin confirmed that suspended guard Richie Incognito was investigated last year for allegedly molesting a female volunteer at the team's golf tournament.
"That incident occurred a year and a half ago," Philbin said Saturday. "We were made aware of the incident and we took immediate action."
Philbin declined to elaborate on what kind of actions were taken against Incognito. Philbin also did not reveal whether the NFL was alerted.
Incognito played all 16 games in 2012 and was eventually voted onto Miami's leadership counsel by his teammates in 2013.
No charges were filed against Incognito following the incident at the team's golf tournament, which took place in Aventura, Fla.
However, the police report states that the volunteer told police that Incognito "used his golf club to touch her by rubbing it up against her vagina, then up her stomach then to her chest. He then used the club to knock a pair of sunglasses off the top of her head."
The story was first reported Thursday by WPLG-ABC in Miami.
The woman, who is black, told several media outlets she has declined to talk because she had signed a confidentiality agreement.
The Dolphins suspended Incognito indefinitely last Sunday due to alleged harassment and misconduct toward teammate Jonathan Martin, who left the team due to emotional issues.
The story caused a national media firestorm, prompting the NFL to investigate the Dolphins, Incognito and Martin.
Inevitable wrote:Geddy is a good mod actually
Inevitable wrote:Geddy is a good mod actually
Geddy wrote:I don't get how a guy like Incognito got voted onto the leadership counsel other than by using intimidation or peer pressure. Then again they have other scumbags on that team like Pouncey.
As for Martin I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. With the way the responses have been to this incident from other players you can imagine that he won't fit in with many locker rooms.
TheLowlySquire wrote:Wow, Arda! Huge!
Howard Mass wrote:Arda is not a terrorist. Arda is a good person.
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