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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#121 » by Revived » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:11 am

Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#122 » by Moochthemonkey » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:08 am

SF88 wrote:Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.


>implying Nash didn't have Marion/Bell/Hill to guard the opponent's PGs
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#123 » by Revived » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:40 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.


>implying Nash didn't have Marion/Bell/Hill to guard the opponent's PGs

>implying Dragic didn't have Tucker/Dudley/Johnson to guard the opponent's PGs. Usually after seeing Dragic get lit up, we actually switched Dragic onto one of the weakest offensive players on the court.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#124 » by phrazbit » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:53 am

We didnt use Tucker (guarded forwards almost exclusively), Dudley (typically guarded the slower wing) or Johnson (hardly played, sucks on D anyway) on point guards last year.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#125 » by Revived » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:44 am

Here's the reason that I'm excited about Hornacek right now: After 3 of our wins this season, he has said that he hated how we played and that we played sloppy and that he's not satisfied at all but he will take the win.

Most coaches, especially rookie coaches will be content with wins and probably not push their players that hard after the wins. Hornacek? Different story. And I love that.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#126 » by Revived » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:59 am

N THE ARENA: The crowd of perhaps 7,000 to 8,000 (official attendance was announced at a season-low 13,154) could have been the smallest since the building opened in 1992. A NASCAR race and an NFL game were being playing in the Valley of the Sun on Sunday.


Daaaamn. What's sad is that the Suns are playing better and are definitely more fun to watch than the Cardinals.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#127 » by Sunsss » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:02 pm

Other than Jason Smith's mid-range game, our bigs were very good on defense with very active hands. Including Frye. And that block/dunk sequence end of the game, holy ****.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#128 » by snowthedirtbub » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:45 pm

Does anyone have a gif of the block dunk sequence? I've watched all the highlights and can't find it, was it the block by Bledsoe on Davis?

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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#129 » by Ryu » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:19 pm

snowthedirtbub wrote:Does anyone have a gif of the block dunk sequence? I've watched all the highlights and can't find it, was it the block by Bledsoe on Davis?

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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#130 » by RunDogGun » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:04 pm

SF88 wrote:Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.


Why do people say stuff like this? It's like they never watch a game, and have zero clue that tons of screens are made to free up pgs. It then becomes the (usually a big) guy guarding the screener responsibility to defend.

There is so much more to the game than one on one basketball.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#131 » by DRK » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:13 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.


Why do people say stuff like this? It's like they never watch a game, and have zero clue that tons of screens are made to free up pgs. It then becomes the (usually a big) guy guarding the screener responsibility to defend.

There is so much more to the game than one on one basketball.


This x10000000000.
Especially if you're against a mediocre three point shooting PG in Holiday, youd rather dare him to shoot the 3 than drive+dish to Morrow/Gordon for the open three by going under the screen anyway, thus "leaving him open."
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#132 » by Sundreamer » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:47 pm

The game was incredibly sloppy from both sides for the first 3 quarters. The Suns had plenty of chances to build a comfortable lead and and I had a feeling they might get punished for wasting them. The Pels stayed alive mostly because of that Smith guy. Luckily, the 4th quarter went as planned.

Archie Goodwin was a pleasant surprise in this one. He really can develop into a great player under Hornacek.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#133 » by BurningHeart » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:18 pm

Didn't get to watch the game but that GIF of Bledsoe blocking Davis....jeeeeez.
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Re: Game 7: Pelicans @ Suns 

Post#134 » by Revived » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:36 am

RunDogGun wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dragic has always been a bad defender. Even last year opposing PGs lit him up. We gave up more pts defensively to PGs last year with Goran than we did with Nash at point.


Why do people say stuff like this? It's like they never watch a game, and have zero clue that tons of screens are made to free up pgs. It then becomes the (usually a big) guy guarding the screener responsibility to defend.

There is so much more to the game than one on one basketball.

Well if that's the case then I guess there really aren't any bad defenders in the NBA at all, its just a bunch of teams who are bad at defense. So Nash, Harden, Ellis etc shouldn't keep getting flamed for their defense.

Defense is a lot about 5 guys playing together and concentrating but it also has a lot to do with a player's ability to keep up with another, a player's passion and effort to give it your all on the defensive end and a player's instincts.

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