Bradley Beal - Part II

[stevemcqueen1]

^ when people say "better" that includes defense and offense, you don't have to say "better 2 way player". For some reason people always say that.

I disagree. It makes a specific point. Most of the time, people consider mostly offense when assessing and saying someone is a better 2 way player makes the point that they are a better defender.

[20MexicanosIn1Van]

Bradley Beal has best SG in the league potential. His biggest weakness is his handle which is one of the easier things to improve on.

[mhd]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFFwNot6K4[/youtube]

[tontoz]

Beal is taking 7 three pointers a game shooting 47.6%. Those are Steph Curry numbers.

[Dat2U]

Bradley Beal has best SG in the league potential. His biggest weakness is his handle which is one of the easier things to improve on.

Huh? You think it's easy develop shot creation skills against the highest level of competition in the world? If anything it's probably one of the hardest skills to add if you didn't come into the league already with some ability to create off the dribble.

[dobrojim]

What do you suppose the over under ought to be on how long before BB sets
a new career high with his first 30+ pt game?

damn... should of took the under.

how about that!

Too bad we fritter away the W by stalling too early
and then not fouling when we were up 3 with less than 20 sec.

[DCsOwn]

https://mobile.twitter.com/royceyoung/s ... royceyoung

[nate33]

I tend to agree with Dat2U. I think shot creation skills are very hard to develop. That said, I'm very impressed with how much Beal has improved in that department since last year. He's no Dwyane Wade, but he's on his way to being a Ray Allen, or perhaps even a James Harden.

[nate33]

It feels like Beal started the season with 4 stinkers and then only picked it up the last 2 games, but looking at the game logs, it's really not that bad. Beal was horrendously awful in the first 2 games, but since then he has been somewhere between "decent" and "MVP caliber". Here are his averages over the past 4 games:

24.8 points
4.3 boards
3.3 assists
1.0 steals
2.5 turnovers
.595 TS%

Those are essentially James Harden's numbers from last year, minus 2 assists and a turnover.

[GhostsOfGil]

When Beal was on last night, we saw him create multiple shots for himself. That was truly impressive. Even with thabo draped all over him, he was able to isolate and create separation. Specifically, the baseline step back jumper in the 4th was something we rarely saw last year.

[DCsOwn]

“The kid is really, really good,” said Thunder coach Scott Brooks said of Beal. “He's a special player. There's no question … He has a chance to be an All-Star in this league.”

http://m.newsok.com/okc-thunder-noteboo ... le/3903454

[Nivek]

I like Beal a lot and I think he's going to be a terrific player, but his overall offensive efficiency is subpar to this point despite the superb 3pt shooting. He's shooting 38% from 2pt range, 67% from the FT line, and that his turnovers are up significantly.

[nate33]

I like Beal a lot and I think he's going to be a terrific player, but his overall offensive efficiency is subpar to this point despite the superb 3pt shooting. He's shooting 38% from 2pt range, 67% from the FT line, and that his turnovers are up significantly.

True. But that's mostly due to two horrifically awful games to start the season when he went 10-36 (28%) with 8 turnovers. Since then, he's shot much better and kept the turnovers under control. I'd like to see him get to the FT line a bit more though. The poor FT shooting is probably just a low sample size fluke.

[DCsOwn]

I like Beal a lot and I think he's going to be a terrific player, but his overall offensive efficiency is subpar to this point despite the superb 3pt shooting. He's shooting 38% from 2pt range, 67% from the FT line, and that his turnovers are up significantly.

I respect the fact that you're a data-driven individual, I prefer objective metrics as well, but those numbers given the sample size and point of the season are about as insignificant as you're going to get. There's no way in Hades that Beal is going to shoot anywhere near 67% from the line, and his rate from inside the arc is going to increase appreciably as well. Innumerable high-end players are below their career averages now, likely do to the fact that there is frequently an adjustment from training camp/pre-season intensity to regular season tempo and the fact that a lot of players aren't in the type of condition they'll be in 10 or 15 games into the season. The fact that Beal has already begun to correct some of his below average percentages to the mean portends very good things for him this season I think.

[Nivek]

I'm willing to accept the FT shooting as a low sample fluke, but if that's the case with FT shooting, the same caveat would be necessary on every other stat as well.

The 2pt shooting was atrocious for each of the first 4 games. Even his outstanding game against OKC, he was below 50% on 2pt attempts. Last season, his 2pt% was .424. If there's anything to be concerned about with Beal, it's his 2pt shooting.

That said, EVERY number from this season is subject to the small sample size caveat.

[Higga]

I said Beal will be an All-Star this year. He is the best SG in the East right now. He's going to be a 20 PPG player for the next 10 years. Love him. Bradley "the real deal" Beal.

[Nivek]

I like Beal a lot and I think he's going to be a terrific player, but his overall offensive efficiency is subpar to this point despite the superb 3pt shooting. He's shooting 38% from 2pt range, 67% from the FT line, and that his turnovers are up significantly.

I respect the fact that you're a data-driven individual, I prefer objective metrics as well, but those numbers given the sample size and point of the season are about as insignificant as you're going to get. There's no way in Hades that Beal is going to shoot anywhere near 67% from the line, and his rate from inside the arc is going to increase appreciably as well. Innumerable high-end players are below their career averages now, likely do to the fact that there is frequently an adjustment from training camp/pre-season intensity to regular season tempo and the fact that a lot of players aren't in the type of condition they'll be in 10 or 15 games into the season. The fact that Beal has already begun to correct some of his below average percentages to the mean portends very good things for him this season I think.

Thank you for making the exact point I was making.

Also, if you're going to look at what a player is doing well, you also need to look at what he's not doing well. Whatever the sample size.

[DCsOwn]

I like Beal a lot and I think he's going to be a terrific player, but his overall offensive efficiency is subpar to this point despite the superb 3pt shooting. He's shooting 38% from 2pt range, 67% from the FT line, and that his turnovers are up significantly.

I respect the fact that you're a data-driven individual, I prefer objective metrics as well, but those numbers given the sample size and point of the season are about as insignificant as you're going to get. There's no way in Hades that Beal is going to shoot anywhere near 67% from the line, and his rate from inside the arc is going to increase appreciably as well. Innumerable high-end players are below their career averages now, likely do to the fact that there is frequently an adjustment from training camp/pre-season intensity to regular season tempo and the fact that a lot of players aren't in the type of condition they'll be in 10 or 15 games into the season. The fact that Beal has already begun to correct some of his below average percentages to the mean portends very good things for him this season I think.

Thank you for making the exact point I was making.

Also, if you're going to look at what a player is doing well, you also need to look at what he's not doing well. Whatever the sample size.

Fair point. I'm significantly more concerned with procedure than production at this point in the season was essentially my point. It's clear what Beal needs to continue to improve on going forward, but the demonstrated skill-set definitely warrants the praise that he's receiving from the likes of Scott Brooks and KD. He's not burnished yet, but this kid has a combination of tools that scream perennial allstar.

[tontoz]

Beal's turnover rate has been too high but that doesnt bother me much given that it is early in the season and he is only 20. What does bother me is that he isn't rebounding enough. Seems like he is leaking out early too often trying to cherry pick.

[20MexicanosIn1Van]

Bradley Beal has best SG in the league potential. His biggest weakness is his handle which is one of the easier things to improve on.

Huh? You think it's easy develop shot creation skills against the highest level of competition in the world? If anything it's probably one of the hardest skills to add if you didn't come into the league already with some ability to create off the dribble.

I don't think shot creation and dribbling ability are the same. Great post players are good shot creators because of pump fakes, jab steps, etc. but they are usually poor ball handlers.