dandridge 10 wrote:dlts20 wrote:dandridge 10 wrote:Dlts, I have to disagree that Wall should have passed that ball. You don't pass up a lay-up for a 3 pointer when you only need 1. And, I have watched that last play several times now, and Wall had plenty of space and control to use the board for that lay-up and didn't. Hey, he's human and not perfect, but I do believe that it was a makeable lay-up.
With that said, I don't get all the negative vibe with Wall. I too would like to see him drive a little more, but he seems to be playing more mature and under control this year. He is also taking better control of the ball. Its early in the season and perhaps he is playing with an injured back. Anyway, if he keeps playing the way he is playing but just get to the line a little more, he will be right back to where he was at the end of last year, maybe even better because I think he is playing more under control. I'm not down on Wall at all.
Anyway, I am more encouraged by the Wizards after the last three games. Their defense looks much better, Gortat is fitting in very well and Beal is ballin'. I'm optimistic but I think the next two games will say a lot about this team. Will they come out with the same fire they did tonight, or lay down. We shall see.
As for the layup stuff. Trust me, I know bball. Im the first guy to get upset if guys go for 3 when they are down 1. There is nothing worst with that. However, those situations are different. Thats when a team is down by 1 and a guy runs the clock down to jack up a 3. Or even if the game is tied and they take a 3, I hate that. However, there are some situations where the 3 is actually the best shot because the D took all the 2's away and left a guy wide open. Thats not a bad shot to me. Ill take that all day. Again, that wasnt a normal layup to me.
As for Wall, I disagree with Wiz fans on this issue. Wiz fans are trying to make it seem like its one way or the other. He's either aggressive or he's under control. No. He can be both. He dominated at the end of last season because he was aggressive and under control. Thats what our fans arent getting. This guy is not worth 80mil playing liek that. I can get Darren Collinson or someone to play under control for way less. The fact is Wall mastered it last year. He was playing mad aggressive while still being as under control as he is now.
Not only that but look at the shooting percentage. He played this way last year and shot 30-40% like always but when he started playing aggresive, he was 45-53%. He'll take better shots and he'll even make the same shots he's missing now because he's just in a more aggressive rhythm. He can do both but he has to try. Again, I wont put it on the back because Ive seen him play like that way too often. Its just him
Well, since you know bball, I guess there is nothing else to say.
We will just agree to disagree on the last shot. Regarding him playing more aggressive, I don't necessarily disagree. However, he is showing improvement in other areas (cutting turnovers, more control, 3 pointers), he has reportedly had back spasms, and the Wiz have only played 6 games. You might be right that "its just him." However, he played aggressive for the last few months of last season, and I think its too early to conclude he not going to get back to that level of play this year.
I said I know bball because the other dude tried to act like I didnt. I also said it to say that I know its always better to go for 2 when youre down 1 and Im the 1st guy to say that but their are some exceptions to the rule and I felt this was one of them.
As for Wall, you got me wrong and alot of other Wiz fans do also. Im not ripping Wall or saying he is trash. CJJ might be some but not me. I hate it how the Skins fans turned on RG3 like they dont know he is coming back from injury and its going to take time. I hate it how Bulls fans are doing that now to Rose. These guys arent overrated and didnt forget how to play. The same thing with Wiz fans on Beal to start the year. I predicted it before the season that he was almost too hot in the preseason and he will start off cold until he finds his rhythm again but I had no doubt he would.
Its the same exact thing with Wall. I never said he wouldnt get back to that level. I have no doubt he will. My problem with Wall is that unlike Rose & RG3, its not rust & injury stuff. Unlike Beal, its not being out of rhythm. Wall's problem is he just doesnt always try to be the dominant force. IDK why people dont see this. Again, there are guys in this league who are elite and go through terrible stretches where they are out of rhythm or whatever but 9 times out of 10, they are trying to be great. I can live with that. Its like I could live with Beal sucking because he was trying to be a great player. Wall is just being passive and non aggressive.
Thats how he plays alot of times until something happens where he flips the switch. Its not like he is playing fine but just missing shots. Im glad he is missing shots because otherwise he would think thsi is ok. Part of the problem is that we have a solid team and good shooters so he can play this way and we can still win or come close to winning which we make him be resigned to playing this way but the truth is we wont be a great team until he "tries" to be great. There aint one other superstar or max guy in this league who doesnt try to be a superstar. Wall is the only way. AGain, he's so good that he can control a game and put up numbers without it but he can dominate, truly dominate a game if he wants to, if he tries to. Thats what I want.
There is no doubt in my mind that he'll do it but I just hate having to wait for it. Again, I dont mind waiting for Rose or RG3 because that is an injury, rust, and being use to game speed thing. I dont mind waiting on Beal because he's playing his game and I know he is going ot find his rhythm. Wall's thing is a problem for me because he's just resigned to it unless something makes him flip. People think its ok but then they wonder why he's coming off the bench behind guys like Lilliard on the US team and getting outplayed by other young guys. None of them will outplay the aggressive, passionate Wall. All of them can outplay this version or be on equal teersm
