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MellowRose wrote:NEM wrote:Wow I thought I didnt like AA, but this guy is on another level... Relax bro... Afflalo is our best sg. It has been made very clear that dipo will play point this year, so you can stop bitching and moaning about how you want him to replace afflalo as the 2. If he replaces anyone it'll be jameer, and that's not for another 2 months at least.
I swear I'm done.
Nyce_1 wrote:All this talk about trying to be like OKC with high lotto picks, i've been impressed with what the Pacers have done with mid-to-late lotto picks. Their highest pick in the last 10 yrs was #10, in 2010......Paul George. Smart drafting, smart FA acquisition, smart trades, and good, solid coaching. They haven't won anything, like OKC, but they're on the same level, through a different route.
Blue_and_Whte wrote:vic is a **** pg right now. Sorry to be the realist of the group but its true. Deal with it.
thelead wrote:If the 15th pick get's a chance to start and learn through his mistakes, so should the #2 pick. Hell, the #2 pick deserves it more considering the investment.
Def Swami wrote:Neon1 wrote:MellowRose wrote:
Any way I can find out his mid range shooting percentage for last year?
That IS from last year. So yeah.
Exactly. The major regression he had in his game last year was from the 3-point arc, where he shot 30%. Very uncanny for a guy who is a career 38-39% shooter from 3 and had 4 straight seasons of nearly +40% shooting from 3 before coming to Orlando. If there are any stats you expect to average out it's that his 3-point shooting improves a lot.
MellowRose wrote:Def Swami wrote:Neon1 wrote:
That IS from last year. So yeah.
Exactly. The major regression he had in his game last year was from the 3-point arc, where he shot 30%. Very uncanny for a guy who is a career 38-39% shooter from 3 and had 4 straight seasons of nearly +40% shooting from 3 before coming to Orlando. If there are any stats you expect to average out it's that his 3-point shooting improves a lot.
I don’t know where you guys are getting your stats from, but AA is shooting an abysmal 36% from mid-range this season, which is 17 made shots out of 47 – just terrible. And if I was to break down his mid-range shooting even further, he’s shooting 5o% from right above the free throw area (can’t take this positively because he’s only shot 2 shots from there and made one), 14% from the right of the free throw are (he’s 1/7), and then right above the corner three (mid-range area), he’s shooting 33% (2/6). Let’s look to the left of the free throw line. Right to the left of the free throw line, he’s shooting 33% (4/12), and then right above the corner 3, he’s shooting 37.50% (3/8). All breakdowns are for ranges from 16-24 feet.
If this isn’t terrible, then IDK what is. His only good shot is 8-16 feet away to the left of the hoop. There he’s shooting 83.33% on 5/6 shooting. The rest of the 8-16 feet away, he’s shooting 33% and 43% (3 of 7 shooting).
BadMofoPimp wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:vic is a **** pg right now. Sorry to be the realist of the group but its true. Deal with it.
Point Guards usually dish out more assists than turnovers. Besides, Vucevic himself even said he wouldn't be as good as he has been without Meer. Why hurt everyone elses development just because people want to see Oladipo take the ball to the rack 20 times a game against all odds? Dipo needs much more time learning than just floor time.
Nyce_1 wrote:All this talk about trying to be like OKC with high lotto picks, i've been impressed with what the Pacers have done with mid-to-late lotto picks. Their highest pick in the last 10 yrs was #10, in 2010......Paul George. Smart drafting, smart FA acquisition, smart trades, and good, solid coaching. They haven't won anything, like OKC, but they're on the same level, through a different route.
OrlandoNed wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:vic is a **** pg right now. Sorry to be the realist of the group but its true. Deal with it.
Point Guards usually dish out more assists than turnovers. Besides, Vucevic himself even said he wouldn't be as good as he has been without Meer. Why hurt everyone elses development just because people want to see Oladipo take the ball to the rack 20 times a game against all odds? Dipo needs much more time learning than just floor time.
Wow, Blue and White is being a realist saying Oladipo is a PG? I think most realists would say he is not a PG, if not a bad one.
Not saying I don't want him to become a PG or I think he can't or should become one but I don't like what I see so far.
Nyce_1 wrote:All this talk about trying to be like OKC with high lotto picks, i've been impressed with what the Pacers have done with mid-to-late lotto picks. Their highest pick in the last 10 yrs was #10, in 2010......Paul George. Smart drafting, smart FA acquisition, smart trades, and good, solid coaching. They haven't won anything, like OKC, but they're on the same level, through a different route.
BadMofoPimp wrote:thelead wrote:If the 15th pick get's a chance to start and learn through his mistakes, so should the #2 pick. Hell, the #2 pick deserves it more considering the investment.
Hark didn't start right off the bat and neither should Oladipo. He hasn't earned that right. He does show flashes of greatness, but only flashes.
Bensational wrote:I wonder how a Bledsoe/Oladipo backcourt would be doing right now?
Neon1 wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:thelead wrote:If the 15th pick get's a chance to start and learn through his mistakes, so should the #2 pick. Hell, the #2 pick deserves it more considering the investment.
Hark didn't start right off the bat and neither should Oladipo. He hasn't earned that right. He does show flashes of greatness, but only flashes.
To be fair Harkless was starting by game #9 (next game), and he had shown not even half of this. Let alone that Oladipo is the #2 pick and the guy the franchise is trying to "sell" to the fanbase.
They started him over Redick moving into the lineup and others.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Neon1 wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:
Hark didn't start right off the bat and neither should Oladipo. He hasn't earned that right. He does show flashes of greatness, but only flashes.
To be fair, the Magic didn't have any other options at SF last season or anyone that could play better than Hark. Dipo is just trying to do too much right now and needs to learn to settle down and play more team ball before he gets the nod. And, he will get the nod at some point. But, Dipo is playing decent minutes for a rookie regardless.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Plus, I don't understand all this hype about OKC. I like Westbrook but he is a chucker who is more of a SG than a PG. He has too many games where he has just one or two assists or even no assists. The only reason they went to the ship is because they had Harden on that team and Perkins was in his prime. But, Westbrook is definitely no superstar. He is just a very good basketball player. I think most people would take Parker, Rose, Deron or Paul over him. Heck, Wade right now could probably do better than Westbrook on that team.
Neon1 wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:Neon1 wrote:
To be fair, the Magic didn't have any other options at SF last season or anyone that could play better than Hark. Dipo is just trying to do too much right now and needs to learn to settle down and play more team ball before he gets the nod. And, he will get the nod at some point. But, Dipo is playing decent minutes for a rookie regardless.
They had Afflalo and Redick, I don't know how well you remember Harkless play at the beginning of last year "earned" the spot as we are saying of Oladipo.