Markieff Morris

[Saberestar]

Paul Coro:

The Morris twins might be staying put. They are like bench captains who embrace the role. They even pledge to have a new bench nickname after finding out past teams used “Bench Mob.”

“This definitely works,” Marcus said. “We still play together. We’re both successful at what we’re doing. If I get a couple more buckets to fall, I’ll be right there where ‘Kieff’ is at. I don’t want to switch it up. We’re going so well. Why change something that’s going good? Just keep riding with it and hopefully ‘Kieff’ can fight for Sixth Man of the Year. I don’t see him going down from here because his confidence is real high.”

[SideSwipe]

As far as nicknames go, I like the Bomb Squad. They come in and nail threes. As to my showcasing comment. Coaching is a huge part of a players development. So is getting your number called. If a GM says get Markieff some touches to see and show people what we have, and coach does it, it pops value. It is probably a combination of both. The twins have been in lots on trade conversations on this board as possible to include in an acquisition. The Suns can now see Markief has good value. Take him and a couple of picks now and maybe you have a run at Love...or.another pick. Bottom line is you tive your players a test run to see how they respond to additional touches, Markieff has responded well.

[BurningHeart]

I think this is why so many didn't understand why I thought the change in coaching staff could have a much bigger effect on this team and their performance.

Intelligent people know that things like coaching matter a lot.

Don't be offended cause I'm probably completely wrong here but weren't you one of Gentry's supporters when he was here? I know RunDogGun was on the fire Gentry bandwagon but I feel like you were one of the ones that were against it.

Like I said, don't get mad, I could easily have mistook you for someone else. Just asking.

I was relatively ambivalent toward Alvin Gentry. I knew he had severe limitations as a coach and they cost us often, as they did in the 2010 WCF.

[bwgood77]

If Markieff keeps up this level of play, I wonder what the market will be for him after next year and how much he would cost.

[grumpysaddle]

If Markieff keeps up this level of play, I wonder what the market will be for him after next year and how much he would cost.

Considering Phoenix drafted him, then traded to get his brother with him, I could see him giving a great deal to the Suns to keep him here. If he can be a consistent 20ppg 8rpg player, then he's borderline all-star, but I could see him taking 7 or 8M a year to stay in PHX with Marcus. Could keep Marcus for league min.

[Revived]

Uh no Marcus is definitely gonna cost more than the league min lol. And that would be so f***ked up, "So we're giving your brother a pretty good contract and we're gonna give you the cheapest one just to keep your brother happy about you being here".

In reality, I expect Markieff's current numbers to drop and become a 14 & 7 guy. In that case I think we should be able to retain him for somewhere around $5M-$7M per season.

[grumpysaddle]

Uh no Marcus is definitely gonna cost more than the league min lol. And that would be so f***ked up, "So we're giving your brother a pretty good contract and we're gonna give you the cheapest one just to keep your brother happy about you being here".

In reality, I expect Markieff's current numbers to drop and become a 14 & 7 guy. In that case I think we should be able to retain him for somewhere around $5M-$7M per season.

Apologies... I meant to type vet min. Markieff's numbers should be better than he was last year. He's just begun to turn the corner. He's been consistent for the past 4 games now, and has seen the improvements made to his game. Teams will factor him into their game plans more now, but I don't see his numbers going down all that drastically. I'm thinking 19 or 20 ppg and 8-9 rbs.

Marcus will get significantly less than his brother unless he shows the progression Markieff has. He's already stated how happy he is for Markieff, which showed no jealousy on his part. Don't think he'd be all that upset making less than his brother to stay on a team with him.

[Saberestar]

If Markieff can be a 14p, 7r guy playing good defense at the end of the season that would be amazing.
He is in his third year, and he has been making around 7-8 points per game with poor percentages and bad defense in his first two years, so that would be an outstanding progress in his career.

We have the twins next year with us for 6M$, so I think this is not time to evaluate their value right now. Before next season starts, we can work an extension if necessary. They are a keepers for sure.

[Revived]

Uh no Marcus is definitely gonna cost more than the league min lol. And that would be so f***ked up, "So we're giving your brother a pretty good contract and we're gonna give you the cheapest one just to keep your brother happy about you being here".

In reality, I expect Markieff's current numbers to drop and become a 14 & 7 guy. In that case I think we should be able to retain him for somewhere around $5M-$7M per season.

Apologies... I meant to type vet min. Markieff's numbers should be better than he was last year. He's just begun to turn the corner. He's been consistent for the past 4 games now, and has seen the improvements made to his game. Teams will factor him into their game plans more now, but I don't see his numbers going down all that drastically. I'm thinking 19 or 20 ppg and 8-9 rbs.

Marcus will get significantly less than his brother unless he shows the progression Markieff has. He's already stated how happy he is for Markieff, which showed no jealousy on his part. Don't think he'd be all that upset making less than his brother to stay on a team with him.

19 or 20 ppg and 8-9 rebounds would be fantastic but I don't know. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic but at best I see him around the 15-16 ppg for the season. His rebounding is still night and day so who knows.

I still think Marcus will command at least a $2-$3M per year contract if he can develop his shooting a little more and become a better defender.

[Ryu]

19 or 20 ppg and 8-9 rebounds are basically all star numbers. It`s unrealistic expecting this type of production of him whole season right now.

I like Keef and would be pleased with 16/7 with good shooting %.

[lilfishi22]

19-20ppg with 8-9rbs is a pretty big stretch. Those are all-star numbers and I just don't see Kieff sustaining it. He's averaging 22/8 so I see it coming down to about 15/7 over the course of the season.

I don't know about Marcus but. He's had some decent shooting performances but he's too much of a tweener. Not big enough to be a consistent scoring threat or defender at the 4. He's not built like a prototypical 3 either, he's not really all that mobile enough to guard 3's consistently nor create his own shot at the perimeter.

[Saberestar]

He's averaging 22/8 so I see it coming down to about 15/7 over the course of the season.

He is averaging 17.2 points and 6.8 rebounds.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6461/markieff-morris

22/8 in his last four games.
I think like you...he can be around 14-15 points and 7 boards at the end of the season.

[grumpysaddle]

19 or 20 ppg and 8-9 rebounds are basically all star numbers. It`s unrealistic expecting this type of production of him whole season right now.

I like Keef and would be pleased with 16/7 with good shooting %.

Those are borderline all-star numbers. All he needs to do is play the same way he's been playing, and I can see him with 19/8. He isn't going to shoot 70%+ all season, but if he continues to be aggressive inside and make his open mid-range shots, I could easily see this happening. It's just my opinion, though. I've never been as down on him as the majority of the posters here have, and legitimately can see him continuing to break out. If that ends up being the case, who needs Aldridge, when we'd have Kieff.

[lilfishi22]

He's averaging 22/8 so I see it coming down to about 15/7 over the course of the season.

He is averaging 17.2 points and 6.8 rebounds.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6461/markieff-morris

22/8 in his last four games.
I think like you...he can be around 14-15 points and 7 boards at the end of the season.

Yep should've added that "over the last four games". Thanks for pointing that out.

[bwgood77]

Pretty good article

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--twins ... ntentstory

[thamadkant]

No doubt it's a nice story... they are so close and family comes first.

But sadly they have to prove that they can be contributors, whether it's mid range shooting, hustle, defense, inside offense etc. they need to contribute.

Ideally you keep them together whether when trading or when keeping.

[phrazbit]

Like a fart in the wind... Markieff has vanished.

I'm not sure how much of it is mental with him and how much is he just isnt all that good, but merely a streaky player. He has been down far more often than not so I've got to think his brief run of success was the aberration, rather than his rapid return to putridity. His game @Sac might have been the worst game by a Sun this year: 0 FGs, 0 rebounds, FIVE fouls in 11 minutes.

[RunDogGun]

Like a fart in the wind... Markieff has vanished.

I'm not sure how much of it is mental with him and how much is he just isnt all that good, but merely a streaky player. He has been down far more often than not so I've got to think his brief run of success was the aberration, rather than his rapid return to putridity. His game @Sac might have been the worst game by a Sun this year: 0 FGs, 0 rebounds, FIVE fouls in 11 minutes.

Maybe it is all mental. Maybe we shouldn't have played him when he had the flu. He was playing great up until then, and has been a no show since. However, besides the turnovers, the other Morris has stepped up.