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Player Development: Ideas && Theories && Concerns 

Post#1 » by Knighthonor » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:08 pm

I thought it would be worthy of a discussion on player development for the Washington Wizards.
Share your concerns, ideas, theories.

@hands you may want to chirp in here with your feedback.
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Post#2 » by nate33 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:11 pm

First, we need a Big Man Shot Fake Draw Foul Defensive Rebounding coach.

And Wall could use a Low Dribble One Hand Bounce Pass in Traffic While Juggling 3 Chainsaws coach.
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Post#3 » by Knighthonor » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:13 pm

Well I was thinking about a way to use JanV

He won't work as a small forward in this league, nor too much as a traditional center.

A PF? Maybe in some ways. But I was thinking, what if the Wizards developed him to be something different than a traditional center. I like the way Duke uses Parker. Of course JV is no Parker, but what if he played the center role in a different way. How could it be done that's effective to the team in a positive way?
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Post#4 » by hands11 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:19 pm

nate33 wrote:First, we need a Big Man Shot Fake Draw Foul Defensive Rebounding coach.

And Wall could use a Low Dribble One Hand Bounce Pass in Traffic While Juggling 3 Chainsaws coach.


And we need a coach for each to train those coaches.
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Post#5 » by AFM » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:29 pm

The official WizD thread?
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Post#6 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:07 am

I expect at least one thread a week from Knighthonor...good job, sir!
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Post#7 » by TGW » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:37 am

This post was made by Knighthonor who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Post#8 » by Knighthonor » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:23 am

well I guess nobody else is going to add to the discussion.

@nate33 mind locking.
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Post#9 » by montestewart » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:42 pm

Knighthonor wrote:well I guess nobody else is going to add to the discussion.

@nate33 mind locking.

You start a thread and then throw in the towel and ask to have it locked in less than 8 hours? Now THAT is a Wizards fan!

Buck up buddy, there's still a lot of ground to cover! Do the Wizards have a personal development program for their players, allowing each one to develop his inner youth leaguer and pursue his long suppressed dream? Maybe Maynor would like to enter politics. Maybe Vesely dreams of being a chef. Maybe Nene has always wanted to act. Pursuing such goals will contribute to the players' personal and spiritual development. That development will in turn contribute to their professional growth. That growth will translate to on court success. Presto change-o.
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Post#10 » by nate33 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:33 pm

Knighthonor wrote:well I guess nobody else is going to add to the discussion.

@nate33 mind locking.

Three things:

First, typically, when you start a thread, you should open it with a post that actually has some opinions for others to comment on. It's lazy to come up with an idea and expect others to do all the work of composing the content.

Secondly, don't be so defensive. I was just taking a lighthearted jab at our good friend Wizardynasty. He occasionally starts player development threads with a, shall we say, unique insight.

Finally, there is at least one if not more player development threads buried here. It might be worth it to go dig one up rather than rehashing old arguments here.
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Post#11 » by AFM » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:41 pm

WizD's posts come off as crazy stream of consciousness blabbering but he actually makes some good points.
Wall does have a very lazy high bounce dribble. I dont know why he doesn't get his pocket picked more when he does that hesitation cross over move. It's predictable.
Also I've noticed he doesn't have a good enough of a handle to keep his dribble alive after a spin move. So that limits where he can execute that move to, well, 2 steps from the basket.
He also doesn't have the awesome in air body control that most explosive athletes have. He frequently finishes below the rim, surprising for such a good athlete. Probably because hes moving so quick to the basket that when he jumps, he jumps almost horizontally.
Didn't know where this post belonged so I'll put it here, to keep KnightHonor's thread alive.
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Post#12 » by dckingsfan » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 pm

nate33 wrote:First, we need a Big Man Shot Fake Draw Foul Defensive Rebounding coach.

And Wall could use a Low Dribble One Hand Bounce Pass in Traffic While Juggling 3 Chainsaws coach.


We need a convince Jan to become a C and bulk-up coach.
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Post#13 » by dckingsfan » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:58 pm

How about a teach Booker to have a 3 point shot like Harrington coach?

I am beginning to really like this thread :)
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Post#14 » by JonathanJoseph » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:46 pm

A fish always rots at the head.

Fire Ernie Grunfeld.

QED.
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Post#15 » by Dat2U » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:56 pm

JonathanJoseph wrote:A fish always rots at the head.

Fire Ernie Grunfeld.

QED.


Somehow, sounds kinda hollow coming from you.
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Post#16 » by JonathanJoseph » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:03 pm

Dat2U wrote:
JonathanJoseph wrote:A fish always rots at the head.

Fire Ernie Grunfeld.

QED.


Somehow, sounds kinda hollow coming from you.


Dude, feel free to check the archives. I've been calling for EG to be fired for about 3 years now.
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Post#17 » by WizarDynasty » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:53 pm

AFM wrote:WizD's posts come off as crazy stream of consciousness blabbering but he actually makes some good points.
Wall does have a very lazy high bounce dribble. I dont know why he doesn't get his pocket picked more when he does that hesitation cross over move. It's predictable.
Also I've noticed he doesn't have a good enough of a handle to keep his dribble alive after a spin move. So that limits where he can execute that move to, well, 2 steps from the basket.
He also doesn't have the awesome in air body control that most explosive athletes have. He frequently finishes below the rim, surprising for such a good athlete. Probably because hes moving so quick to the basket that when he jumps, he jumps almost horizontally.
Didn't know where this post belonged so I'll put it here, to keep KnightHonor's thread alive.



Couldn't have said it more eloquently. Actually you are bringing up things that go way beyond what i have said. 8-)
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Re: Player Development: Ideas && Theories && Concerns 

Post#18 » by LyricalRico » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:01 pm

Looks like WizNas may actually be onto something. Check out what Paul George was working on over the summer:

Just a year ago, George looked like he was in over his head assuming Granger's alpha dog perimeter spot in Indiana's balanced, post-heavy offense. He turned over the ball on 22.7 percent of his pick-and-rolls, per Synergy Sports. Out of 120 players who ran at least 75 pick-and-rolls, only 22 lost the ball more often. He was so out of control trying to split traps on the play that Vogel banned him from trying. "Oh yeah," George says now, laughing. "I heard that from him countless times."

George spent all summer working on his sloppy ballhandling. He ran the hills in Southern California's Runyon Canyon in hopes of increasing the strength and endurance in his legs. A boost there would allow George to stay in a low crouch more consistently when dribbling through defenses. "I knew how to dribble," George says, "but I was always dribbling too high. This summer was all about staying low." George's trainer, Jerry Powell, would shadow George through ballhandling drills, with Powell holding his hand at the height he considered the healthy upper limit of George's dribble. If the ball bounced to that level, Powell would swipe it away and have George start over.


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/100 ... -nba-title

Nothing about hand speed, but definitely low dribbling! :D

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