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Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room?

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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#81 » by DCZards » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:50 pm

The bad schedule is a factor, but let's not use that as an excuse for the Zards not playing smart bball.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#82 » by hands11 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:48 am

DCZards wrote:The bad schedule is a factor, but let's not use that as an excuse for the Zards not playing smart bball.


Can we use it for an excuse for their record though ?


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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#83 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:09 am

It was annoying how much Wall was shooting it, like he thought he was Gilbert Arenas or something.


Maybe Nene will demand a trade.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#84 » by montestewart » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:33 am

hands11 wrote:
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hands11 wrote:Nene took a dump in Wall shoes.

Glad I'm not the only thinking that throughout this thread.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#85 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:47 am

It starts with John Wall shot selection its been horrible.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#86 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:50 am

WizarDynasty wrote:Wall's predictable uncoordinated dribbling style is the main reason this team isn't able to continously exploit defenses in the half court offense. out of control during crunch time and because his lack of elite point guard handling ability allows hte defense to easily force the offense into bad shots. If wall had elite ball control, he could easily force defenses out of position and draw perimeter shooting fouls. He is always out of control because of his lack of ball handling skills in the half court. He can't post any up because of lack of ball handling skills, he can't shoot of the pick and roll because he dribbles the ball high and slow coming around the corner, and he is always jumping in the air in stead of keeping his dribble when driving in the paint, why because of lack of elilte ball dribbling skills. Just watch how controlled paul is after getting into paint, you never see wall with any kind of control after he drives into the paint. Wall's lack of poise and ball handling skills is a key reason for the wizards woes. He is suppose to turn on his elite ability in the 4th quarter when it counts. He spends most of the game trying to sprint down court in a beeline straight to basket, jumps in the air and hopes for contact or the easy pass. He rarely is controlling the defense with poise. He is suppose to be the best player on the team, yet can't be counted on generate high percentage shots during crunch time because--- he is out of control and uncoordinated offensively with the basket in the half court. His biggest attribute was suppose to be his length, yet he doesn't even know how to use it. His biggest asset was suppose to be his quickness, yet he struggles to maintain control of the ball in the half court whenever he has to slow down.
Not holding Wall to a highest standard is the main reason why this board is failing. Wall is suppose to be the key to this team. The leader but he doesn't have elite skills for a point guard. That's the real problem.

Wall is the main reason were losing he wants to prove he has a improved jumper and its hurting the team.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#87 » by MikeTheKid » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:56 am

3-Way trade lets tank, trade Nene and Gortat and get Asik
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#88 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:59 am

MikeTheKid wrote:3-Way trade lets tank, trade Nene and Gortat and get Asik

And we receive a pick as well.
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Post#89 » by jivelikenice » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:30 am

tontoz wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:Beal and Wall are definitely both taking too many long J's. I don't mind a 15 footer, but it should be that or a 3. No 18-20 ft contested jumpers allowed, or uncontested for the matter....



Near the end of the shot clock an 18-20 footer might be the best available option. But early in the clock (which many of their shots are) it is just bad basketball.


Agreed. Maybe Webster in the starting lineup will help. For everything Ariza has done well. I've seen 2-3 possessions per game where he hold the ball for most of the clock and gives it to Wall or Beal in no position to score with less than 5 seconds to go on the 24....
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#90 » by hands11 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:42 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:It was annoying how much Wall was shooting it, like he thought he was Gilbert Arenas or something.


Maybe Nene will demand a trade.


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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#91 » by Dat2U » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:44 am

truwizfan4evr wrote:It starts with John Wall shot selection its been horrible.


Totally agree. Bench Wall and start Maynor. We won't have to worry about Maynor's shot selection. :wink:
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#92 » by go'stags » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:49 am

All of the talk about Wall's offense, leading the team etc...

Wern't the Wizards ranked 9th in offensive efficiency going into the spurs game? While also attempting the most corner threes in the league , and at a pace that would be the most in NBA history?

Watching the games, its ridiculous how many open threes Wall gets for his teammates, especially considering he is playing with 2 lane cloggers in Nene and Gortat.

He's just trying to do a little too much right now to prove he is worth his contract, and because he really believes in himself and wants to win. He will be fine.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#93 » by FreeBalling » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:04 am

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DCZards wrote:The bad schedule is a factor, but let's not use that as an excuse for the Zards not playing smart bball.


Can we use it for an excuse for their record though ?


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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#94 » by Nivek » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:12 am

The Wizards are 9th in the strength of schedule so far -- 0.64 points per game more difficult than average. Not the easiest schedule, but not brutal either. The Lakers have played the toughest schedule so far -- 3.31 points per game more difficult than average.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#95 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:34 am

MikeTheKid wrote:3-Way trade lets tank, trade Nene and Gortat and get Asik

Nene for Asik does make pretty good sense for both teams. Nene is perfect as a guy who could play both PF and C and can help add some bball IQ to that somewhat dysfunctional team.

We would need to include incentive, and the only guy that makes sense is Gortat. But Houston wouldn't need Gortat. Gortat would have to go to a third team - hopefully with an offensively competent PF coming our way.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#96 » by hands11 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:48 am

Nivek wrote:The Wizards are 9th in the strength of schedule so far -- 0.64 points per game more difficult than average. Not the easiest schedule, but not brutal either. The Lakers have played the toughest schedule so far -- 3.31 points per game more difficult than average.


Not sure how that is calculated..but I would rather have.

MN ranked with above the Wiz
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... mberwolves

The worst was this.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... s-clippers

Hard to say that was worse then what we got.

2nd hardest by SOS. Sorry, don't see it. They did get OKC, NO then SA on a back to back on a road swing. We got OKC, Dallas then SA on on our back to back with OKC so that is kind of similar. But we also had MIA on the road. They had 4 home games. We only had 2. Wizards schedule was tougher then theirs.

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Post#97 » by jivelikenice » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:42 am

Nivek wrote:The Wizards are 9th in the strength of schedule so far -- 0.64 points per game more difficult than average. Not the easiest schedule, but not brutal either. The Lakers have played the toughest schedule so far -- 3.31 points per game more difficult than average.


I think ppl including myself think the schedule is tough based on the strength plus 6 of the first 8 being away....
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Post#98 » by Kanyewest » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:20 pm

nate33 wrote:By singling out the "young guys", it seems like he is really talking about Wall and Beal. Certainly, Webster, Ariza, Gortat and Harrington don't fall under that category. Seraphin didn't play. And Vesely, for all his faults, can hardly be considered a selfish stat whore. I suppose, he could be talking about the last several games, which would include Singleton.

I think the criticism of Beal is misplaced. Beal was awful in his first 2 games, and turnover prone in his 3rd, but in the 5 games since then, he has been either our best scorer or one of our best distributors. He had two awesome games where he scored 29 and 34 respectively on great shooting. He had two relatively poor-shooting nights (7/20 and 2/10) during which he managed to tabulate 8 and 7 assists respectively. And last night against the Spurs, he was a respectable 9 of 19 from the floor on a night when no one other than Webster could score.

Wall has had a rough start shooting wise, but his assists are up and his turnovers are down from last year, so he's headed in the right direction too. Wall probably does deserve a bit more criticism for the number of midrange jumpers he takes given his efficiency - particularly against San Antonio.


I think Beal’s output was OK but it could have been better. He only had 19 points on 19 shots meaning he really isn't doing a good job at getting to the line.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#99 » by Nivek » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:00 pm

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Nivek wrote:The Wizards are 9th in the strength of schedule so far -- 0.64 points per game more difficult than average. Not the easiest schedule, but not brutal either. The Lakers have played the toughest schedule so far -- 3.31 points per game more difficult than average.


I think ppl including myself think the schedule is tough based on the strength plus 6 of the first 8 being away....


The strength of schedule measure accounts for that, but I hear you. It hasn't been an easy schedule. Bright side is they don't have to make a trip to San Antonio, Dallas or OKC again.
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Re: Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room? 

Post#100 » by tontoz » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:01 pm

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MikeTheKid wrote:3-Way trade lets tank, trade Nene and Gortat and get Asik

Nene for Asik does make pretty good sense for both teams. Nene is perfect as a guy who could play both PF and C and can help add some bball IQ to that somewhat dysfunctional team.

We would need to include incentive, and the only guy that makes sense is Gortat. But Houston wouldn't need Gortat. Gortat would have to go to a third team - hopefully with an offensively competent PF coming our way.



I dont think so. Nene's contract is too long for them. It looks like they are setting themselves up to add another max player in the summer of 2015.

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