With the 10th pick in the draft...Madison Bumgarner
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Hopper15 wrote:Big kid 6'5 220...won't turn 18 until August
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Who would you compare him to?
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Well it looks like the Giants blew most of their early picks (especially sups) on no-names who will be cheap....And probably coulda been had iin the sixth round....Strong work, Sabean...
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What the hell is this?
This is a bigger droped ball for the Giants than the WS drop against the Angles! It could be said that with Bonds leaving after this year, this was the biggest draft in decades and they go for high school players? Pitchers at that? Then two shortstops? Didn't they get shortstops and second basemen last year? And they are contact hitters at that. Still no powerbat? I dont care if this kid at #10 is the next Roger, if he only gives up 1 run (Morris) and we score 0 runs (last nights) he still looses. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Last starter drafted, Feliz in 94. Last all-star drafted, Matt Williams. More pitchers to trade for 30 somethings? I guess so.
I am done with the Giants. They shall recieve no more of my time or my money. I blame myself. I actually believed in them.
This is a bigger droped ball for the Giants than the WS drop against the Angles! It could be said that with Bonds leaving after this year, this was the biggest draft in decades and they go for high school players? Pitchers at that? Then two shortstops? Didn't they get shortstops and second basemen last year? And they are contact hitters at that. Still no powerbat? I dont care if this kid at #10 is the next Roger, if he only gives up 1 run (Morris) and we score 0 runs (last nights) he still looses. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Last starter drafted, Feliz in 94. Last all-star drafted, Matt Williams. More pitchers to trade for 30 somethings? I guess so.
I am done with the Giants. They shall recieve no more of my time or my money. I blame myself. I actually believed in them.

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Honestly, can someone please cheer me up about this draft? This is depressing.
We lack hitting, and we draft pitching....raw pitching at that. At least last year we got a stud pitcher who was MLB ready right out of college.
So many exciting 3-4 hitters that we past up, I'm depressed.
The only positive I can think of is we can trade our pitching talent for a MLB ready hitter later on?
We lack hitting, and we draft pitching....raw pitching at that. At least last year we got a stud pitcher who was MLB ready right out of college.
So many exciting 3-4 hitters that we past up, I'm depressed.
The only positive I can think of is we can trade our pitching talent for a MLB ready hitter later on?
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edney2polynice_ wrote:Honestly, can someone please cheer me up about this draft? This is depressing.
We lack hitting, and we draft pitching....raw pitching at that. At least last year we got a stud pitcher who was MLB ready right out of college.
So many exciting 3-4 hitters that we past up, I'm depressed.
The only positive I can think of is we can trade our pitching talent for a MLB ready hitter later on?
Sorry, just too many HS players which means we'll have to wait 3-4 years tops.
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For the last couple of years I have honestly tried to figure out what the Giants philosophy is. What direction they want their organization to go. I really have not been able to put my figure on it.
This draft really opened my eyes. I know most people blame Sabean and believe me I have NO love for him either. Truth be told however, I think it goes much higher than him. I think it starts from the top. So, here is the Giants philosophy imo.
The Giants pay based on prior performance, not on potential performance.
I believe a guy like Mills was passed up because he would demand $$$. A hitter has a greater chance of becoming a "bust" than a pitcher. Furthermore, you can always find someone to take a semi-bust pitcher but not so with a hitter. Though Mills hit over 40 HR's this past season, there is a chance he did so because of weaker tallent. (For the record I think this is BS and he will be a yearly 30 HR guy). That ever so slight chance scared the Giants away and they went with HS pitching that they could sign cheap and so if it busts, no loss. They will spend $$$ on 30-something because they know they will X from him. They wont spend $$$ on kids because though he could give you XY and Z, you could also give you A. LAME!
Why did the Giants greatly overpay for Barry and Barry? Because the league knows this about the Giants. They think in the past and not in the future. Both Soriano and Lee took less money to sign elsewhere. That has to be a telling sign. So they had to overpay Barry and Barry just to bring anyone in. Again, what does that say? Much like the 49ers before Nolan and the Warriors before Neli, the Giants have become the laughinstock of their league because they think only about the past and not about the future.
Giants = worst organization in pro sports!
This draft really opened my eyes. I know most people blame Sabean and believe me I have NO love for him either. Truth be told however, I think it goes much higher than him. I think it starts from the top. So, here is the Giants philosophy imo.
The Giants pay based on prior performance, not on potential performance.
I believe a guy like Mills was passed up because he would demand $$$. A hitter has a greater chance of becoming a "bust" than a pitcher. Furthermore, you can always find someone to take a semi-bust pitcher but not so with a hitter. Though Mills hit over 40 HR's this past season, there is a chance he did so because of weaker tallent. (For the record I think this is BS and he will be a yearly 30 HR guy). That ever so slight chance scared the Giants away and they went with HS pitching that they could sign cheap and so if it busts, no loss. They will spend $$$ on 30-something because they know they will X from him. They wont spend $$$ on kids because though he could give you XY and Z, you could also give you A. LAME!
Why did the Giants greatly overpay for Barry and Barry? Because the league knows this about the Giants. They think in the past and not in the future. Both Soriano and Lee took less money to sign elsewhere. That has to be a telling sign. So they had to overpay Barry and Barry just to bring anyone in. Again, what does that say? Much like the 49ers before Nolan and the Warriors before Neli, the Giants have become the laughinstock of their league because they think only about the past and not about the future.
Giants = worst organization in pro sports!
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opzoneworld wrote:
Giants = worst organization in pro sports!
You are making a FAR REACH on this.
McGowan saved our franchise from moving to Tampa Bay. He keeps our payroll in the top ten year after year.
I think it is time for Sabean to leave. He's ridden the coat tale of one of the best baseball players to ever play the game...and what do we have to show of it?
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This gave me some optimism when I read this from an established Giants fan/journalist who post on a different board.
Best pick
If we factor in the players' likely signing bonuses, Wendell Fairley may be the best pick of the round, although he fell for another reason to the Giants at 29. Fairley has tremendous upside and projects as a right fielder who hits for power, controls the strike zone and can run. He fell because of concerns about some off-field issues and the fact that he hadn't been seen in some of the better national competitions like the Area Code Games. He's a top-10 or top-15 talent if the off-field stuff isn't really an issue.
Best round overall
It's tough to compete with the Giants' haul; they had three picks and made the most of them, adding two big-time high school arms, including a guy with electric stuff (Tim Alderson) who fell because of his unorthodox delivery, as well as Fairley.
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Edney, I was here when they said the same exact things about Freddy Lewis. This kid had a giant upside, he has power, great speed, late start because of football. All the same exact things people are saying now about Fairley. Now Lewis is 27 and finally making the Giants...as a 4th outfielder!
Not saying this kid wont make it. Just saying I have heard it all before and look how it turned out. So as for me, I am not as hopeful anymore.
Not saying this kid wont make it. Just saying I have heard it all before and look how it turned out. So as for me, I am not as hopeful anymore.
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Sorry for not adhering to the 'three paragraph article' limit, but this was posted on a different team board with out the articles link. A good read on our players.
Bumgarner, 6-foot-5 and 220 pounds, possesses a fastball that has been clocked as high as 95 mph. With that effective a pitch, he's still working on developing his curveball and changeup. He was 11-2 with one save and a 1.05 ERA for South Caldwell this year. In 86 1/3 innings, Bumgarner struck out 145, allowed 45 hits and walked 11. With his size, the 17-year-old has inspired comparisons to Mark Mulder and Andy Pettitte.
Bumgarner established himself long before his senior season. As a junior, he finished 12-2 with a 0.99 ERA and 120 strikeouts in 84 innings for South Caldwell, the runner-up in North Carolina's Class 4-A level. For good measure, he hit .392 with 14 home runs and 39 RBIs. He was similarly impressive as a sophomore (9-2, 1.20 ERA, 130 strikeouts in 77 innings) and freshman (1.63 ERA, 53 strikeouts in 30 innings).
-- Alderson, 6-foot-7 and 210 pounds, has demonstrated remarkable command. In 72 1/3 innings this season, he struck out 111 and walked four. Last year, he was 8-3 with a 0.95 ERA, 122 strikeouts and eight walks. As a Horizon sophomore in 2005, Alderson finished 8-1 with a 0.13 ERA. His fastball approaches the mid-90 mph range, and scouts believe that his curveball has the potential to become a decent pitch.
Much like Tim Lincecum, the Giants' No. 1 pick from 2006 who already has ascended to their Major League rotation, Alderson has a somewhat unusual delivery. He pitches exclusively from the stretch position and uses what scouts describe as an unorthodox arm action.
-- Fairley, a left-handed batter who has been compared to Tampa Bay outfielder Carl Crawford, hit .538 with nine home runs this season. Although Fairley, a star wide receiver in high school, received offers to play football at Louisiana State University and Florida, he declared that "baseball's my main sport." Fairley has signed a letter of intent to play baseball at Southern Mississippi, but hinted that he'd prefer to sign a professional contract.
"I'm with the Giants now," he said.
Fairley also pitched for George County-Lucedale. Last year, he hit .451 and finished 5-4 with a 2.07 ERA and 68 strikeouts in 50 innings, prompting him to be selected to Louisville Slugger's 2007 Preseason All-America High School team.
ESPN's Keith Law recently reported that Fairley's reputation was marred by a "litany of off-field issues, including a hazing incident on the team bus and a potentially more serious incident that's still under investigation." Law also said on ESPN2's Draft telecast that Fairley possesses "tremendous, tremendous talent." And Sabean said of Fairley on the same program, "We think he's one of the best athletes in the Draft, whether it be high school or college."
-- Noonan, 18, a left-handed batter who has played mostly shortstop but is projected as a second baseman due to lack of arm strength. He hit .540 with 15 home runs and 55 RBIs in 35 games this season besides stealing 42 bases in 44 attempts.
-- Jackson Williams, a catcher from the University of Oklahoma (43rd overall selection). The right-handed batter hit .344 this season with four home runs and 44 RBIs in 55 games. "We see him as a big-league starter in the future," Tidrow said of Williams, 21. "He's probably the best defensive catcher in the draft."
-- Charlie Culberson, 18, a shortstop from Calhoun (Ga.) High School (51st overall selection). A right-handed hitter whom Tidrow projected as a second or third baseman, Culberson hit .512 with 16 homers and 52 RBIs. The Giants selected his father, Charles, in the 16th round of the 1984 Draft as an outfielder.
-- Chance Corgan, 21, a right-hander from Texas Christian University (fifth round, 164th overall selection). He finished 7-1 with a 4.48 ERA in 18 games this season, including 16 starts. "He pitched a lot of innings over last three years," Tidrow said. "He has a good curveball, a good fastball and he's very athletic."
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