Knicks targeting Rondo

[Clyde_Style]

Can anyone even be certain Rondo will be healthy enough to play at a high level again?

That said, he may be the perfect badass to handle a player like Melo, but then will there be enough of a team left to matter anyway?

[Besart19]

Rondo is only 26 and has a great contract. Boston is not going to trade him just to clear cap so they can sign someone like Rondo. Doubt they trade him unless they get some legit lotto picks and/or legt young stars/prospects.

I'd take Rondo and there bad contracts for Shump and all of our crap in a sec. Bit Knicks just don't have anything close to get a deal done.

Durant is in his 7th year now and still hasnt won a title... Will Rondo be willing to wait another decade so Parker or Wiggins or whoever they could draft to build a team from zero?! For sure he's a goner. Now or in 2015 via FA that's details then... Our FO should explore all the possibilities to make it 3 or even 4 way so if we are to bring Rondo here not to hurt our chances cap-wise to add our 3rd star in '15 (Gasol/Love)

[Deeeez Knicks]

If the Knicks do get Rondo then you know he's damaged goods. It just means he will follow in the footsteps of Houston/McDyess/Amare.

[ezmoney707]

Old Knicks? Are we under new ownership?

Yes let's act like we haven't been better at managing the cap than before. SMFH your ridiculous.

How are we "managing the cap" correctly if we're willing to give Melo a deal worth 40% of our cap space that will severely limit our options going forward?

This organization just finished an offseason where they traded a potential lottery pick for Andrea Bargnani and you're shaking your head at me.

Melo taking a pay cut is on Melo. You can't lose him. But don't act like they haven't put themselves in position to get big name free agents again in 2015.

A lottery pick?!? smfh. Alright I already see where this convo is going.

[Besart19]

This is a deal I see Boston making next year to be honest, I see no reason for Boston to engage now

I agree with the fit, Rondo isnt crossing halfcourt and flipping the ball off to Melo, and he surely isnt slowing down on a fast break for him.

everyone save Melo, Bargs and THJ can be included in a possible trade...

We'll need THJ transition and range if Rondo is to come here... as for the first two?! Rondo will make them play their best ball of their career... I forgot MWP and Chandler, too

No doubt, he'd make the team look very solid.

I'll place this possibility on Chris Paul status though...Rondo has to open his mouth and demand for it to be possible.

Btw, how the personal relations stand between Rondo and Melo, or even Tyson?! Are they friends or something, so this be not just business matter but also personal?!

[NYchris]

You guys never learn we need to stop trading draft picks this is why the knicks went through 10 years of crap unless and were about to go through another considering were thinking of throwing away a 2018 pick. The mindset and impatient moves make you guys seem like you endorse James Dolan moves. Rondo is coming off a surgery even if he is still good at finding people open we have other issues for example Rondo needs great shooters around him. We don't have great shooters we have low IQ players who like to take bad shots. This franchise is doomed for a long time which brings me to question will I ever see a knicks championship ever.

[JBreezeNY]

Rondo is only 26 and has a great contract. Boston is not going to trade him just to clear cap so they can sign someone like Rondo. Doubt they trade him unless they get some legit lotto picks and/or legt young stars/prospects.

I'd take Rondo and there bad contracts for Shump and all of our crap in a sec. Bit Knicks just don't have anything close to get a deal done.

Durant is in his 7th year now and still hasnt won a title... Will Rondo be willing to wait another decade so Parker or Wiggins or whoever they could draft to build a team from zero?! For sure he's a goner. Now or in 2015 via FA that's details then... Our FO should explore all the possibilities to make it 3 or even 4 way so if we are to bring Rondo here not to hurt our chances cap-wise to add our 3rd star in '15 (Gasol/Love)

I need a quick question as far as the cap space goes speaking of '15. How many stars could we afford if Melo takes the Kobemax or if he takes a Dirk deal?

[Mr_Perfect]

Yes let's act like we haven't been better at managing the cap than before. SMFH your ridiculous.

How are we "managing the cap" correctly if we're willing to give Melo a deal worth 40% of our cap space that will severely limit our options going forward?

This organization just finished an offseason where they traded a potential lottery pick for Andrea Bargnani and you're shaking your head at me.

Melo taking a pay cut is on Melo. You can't lose him. But don't act like they haven't put themselves in position to get big name free agents again in 2015.

A lottery pick?!? smfh. Alright I already see where this convo is going.

Yeah, a lottery pick. Both teams suck now, both teams can potentially still suck in 2016. Which means a lottery pick. And if not, still a valuable first round pick wasted on a mediocre talent that was going to get amnestied.

2015 is a pipedream perpetuated by James Dolan to give the fans hope. Take a look at the cap situation and realize that unless Melo re-signs for much less the Knicks will only have space for one other max contract and very little else while having a roster of Melo, max contract, Shumpert (who, if not traded, can receive an offer sheet) and Tim Hardaway Jr. That sound like a stable core to you? You think we can fill in a starting lineup and rotation using league minimum deals? 2015 isn't the answer but let people here continue the dream.

[IMAN5]

Maybe if the Knicks throw in THJR and two first round picks.

[Besart19]

If the Knicks do get Rondo then you know he's damaged goods. It just means he will follow in the footsteps of Houston/McDyess/Amare.

Shump had the same injury and surgery (3 in 4 years)... Amare is done and Felton is fat

So, wrong logic! Bring "The Maverick" in Big Apple... and Gerald Green too; #FastBreaks

[Clyde_Style]

If the Knicks do get Rondo then you know he's damaged goods. It just means he will follow in the footsteps of Houston/McDyess/Amare.

That's my concern. By playing hard to get, the Celtics can make it seem he's healthier than he is and hold out for the best deal. If he is really handicapped now, then the Celtics would stick it to the Knicks and send him here.

[Clyde_Style]

You guys never learn we need to stop trading draft picks this is why the knicks went through 10 years of crap unless and were about to go through another considering were thinking of throwing away a 2018 pick. The mindset and impatient moves make you guys seem like you endorse James Dolan moves. Rondo is coming off a surgery even if he is still good at finding people open we have other issues for example Rondo needs great shooters around him. We don't have great shooters we have low IQ players who like to take bad shots. This franchise is doomed for a long time which brings me to question will I ever see a knicks championship ever.

Us guys? You mean Jim Dolan. I don't see lots of endorsements of anything these days.

And a hard core group of people here have always lobbied for not trading away draft picks and building organically. We're a minority to those who wanted Melo at any cost, but those of us who believed this have never wavered in our approach to building a team.

It is guaranteed being a Knicks fan will be a pain in the azz perhaps for our entire lifetimes unless Dolan chokes on a guitar pick and sells the team, because they will always make half-assed trades and put together patchwork quilt teams.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Rondo is only 26 and has a great contract. Boston is not going to trade him just to clear cap so they can sign someone like Rondo. Doubt they trade him unless they get some legit lotto picks and/or legt young stars/prospects.

I'd take Rondo and there bad contracts for Shump and all of our crap in a sec. Bit Knicks just don't have anything close to get a deal done.

Durant is in his 7th year now and still hasnt won a title... Will Rondo be willing to wait another decade so Parker or Wiggins or whoever they could draft to build a team from zero?! For sure he's a goner. Now or in 2015 via FA that's details then... Our FO should explore all the possibilities to make it 3 or even 4 way so if we are to bring Rondo here not to hurt our chances cap-wise to add our 3rd star in '15 (Gasol/Love)

I can only hope Ainge is thinking this too

[Thugger HBC]

everyone save Melo, Bargs and THJ can be included in a possible trade...

We'll need THJ transition and range if Rondo is to come here... as for the first two?! Rondo will make them play their best ball of their career... I forgot MWP and Chandler, too

No doubt, he'd make the team look very solid.

I'll place this possibility on Chris Paul status though...Rondo has to open his mouth and demand for it to be possible.

Btw, how the personal relations stand between Rondo and Melo, or even Tyson?! Are they friends or something, so this be not just business matter but also personal?!

I've heard Rondo and Melo mentioned together in some rap songs.

But seriously though they'd do fine imo.

[Besart19]

Rondo is only 26 and has a great contract. Boston is not going to trade him just to clear cap so they can sign someone like Rondo. Doubt they trade him unless they get some legit lotto picks and/or legt young stars/prospects.

I'd take Rondo and there bad contracts for Shump and all of our crap in a sec. Bit Knicks just don't have anything close to get a deal done.

Durant is in his 7th year now and still hasnt won a title... Will Rondo be willing to wait another decade so Parker or Wiggins or whoever they could draft to build a team from zero?! For sure he's a goner. Now or in 2015 via FA that's details then... Our FO should explore all the possibilities to make it 3 or even 4 way so if we are to bring Rondo here not to hurt our chances cap-wise to add our 3rd star in '15 (Gasol/Love)

I need a quick question as far as the cap space goes speaking of '15. How many stars could we afford if Melo takes the Kobemax or if he takes a Dirk deal?

With Rondo here, we would only be able to sign a 3rd big contract with Kobe Max while two others with the Dirk discount... Also would depend a lot on Rondo and Chandler how much they will ask in 2015... the more probable SL by then would be:

Tyson (8M)
Love (18M)
Melo (15M)
THJ (2M)
Rondo (12M)
Total: 55M which is still under the cap (2015/6 projection is around 62M)

But, if we take Wallace and Lee contracts, then we should say bye by to at least one star... But, still it's a risky to wait until 2015... I dont know frankly which way is better

[[GR]]

If the Knicks do get Rondo then you know he's damaged goods. It just means he will follow in the footsteps of Houston/McDyess/Amare.

At least he added mass

[adjacent2bench]

If the team gives up more picks...I don't even know....My love for the team is already sort of dwindling.

[Boik14]

Pull Amare out of the deal. then you can talk about this actually happening. No way the Celtics take that crappy contract. None. Thats ours for the next 2 years for better or worse (mostly worse)...

Bargnani, Felton and Shumpert and future pick for Rondo, Brooks and Bass

Still think that tanking Celtics will be more interested in Amare then Bargs, because they will be able to recruit more FA in 2015 if they dump Wallace, Bass, Lee and Humphries contracts

Honestly, I like Rondo but Im not interested in anything that mortgages 2015. Right now our cap is lined up perfectly for it and this is why Dolan is a damn ***hole for firing Grunwald. I can almost guarantee we do something ****in dumb before that because of this impatient child. No freakin clue how to run a team and he fires/relieves the only 2 guys that do (walsh and Grunnie).

IF you want to make a move now....You do it for players whose contracts expire before 2015. For example Bargs, Shump and Amare for Kobe, Gasol cap fillers if the LAL decide they want to tank it. Or Bargs and Shump for Dirk. Just saying those are somewhat close to matching up and not that they would actually happen. You need trades that help you now without mortgaging the future.

[Sky_Knicks]

No thanks. Can't shoot and is a headcase. Stay in Boston.

[Besart19]

No doubt, he'd make the team look very solid.

I'll place this possibility on Chris Paul status though...Rondo has to open his mouth and demand for it to be possible.

Btw, how the personal relations stand between Rondo and Melo, or even Tyson?! Are they friends or something, so this be not just business matter but also personal?!

I've heard Rondo and Melo mentioned together in some rap songs.

But seriously though they'd do fine imo.

And who's the rapper?! Shump?! the deal goes down then

I think Melo's in a position and an age when he seriously thinking about winning. He's a prideful guy and the fact that he still doesnt have a ring is bothering him, with no doubt! The only title he misses is the NBA champion... and winning it with NYK is even greater accomplishment!

PS: Any possibility for Boston to take Smith over Shump, btw?! If I was an adviser of Angie I would do it. Having Amare, Felton, JR and Crawful on the team makes tanking a lot more easier