Who deserves the Nets blame?

[three2theD]

Billy King. He got fleeced by Danny Ainge and hired Jay Kidd to boot.

[Novocaine]

What deserves the Net blame is a better question and it's that exact thing I've been on since pre-season: this team needs A LOT of minutes of Andrei Kirilenko at the 4 and a lot of minutes to a speedier backcourt player in the rotation - all they have is Anderson, so it should be him.

Their current line-up/rotation is simply too SLOW. Garnett and Lopez is a dreadful defensive combo in extended minutes especially when they already have relatively slow players on the backcourt. People need to stop living 10 years ago, it's the same phenomenon that lead people to believe Asik/Howard would simply outplay any small-ball combinations, to recall a discussion I've had here recently (or who didn't understand Odom was the Lakers starting PF prior to be traded and essential to make that team work).

[mr.ankle]

They don't care about the regular season. They want to make a noise in the postseason. Which is a probability.

They play in the east, they could suck it right up and will still probably go into the second round

Thats not true They could not beat the Bulls last year and Derrick Rose did not play in that Series and Kirk Hinrich and Luol Deng did not play the last two games . They are still the same soft underachieving team from last year

[Novocaine]

And I know Kirilenko has been injured, that's why I didn't assign blame to anyone in particular.

The Nets rotation needs to be:

Willliams/Livingston

Johnson/Pierce/Anderson (maybe Anderson should even start - I've always said this team lacked a fast defensive guard)

Garnett/Kirilenko (playing 30 mpg)
Lopez/Garnett/Blatche

Guys like Terry, Evans and Plumlee need to be dropped out of the rotation.

[eagereyez]

A 3-7 start is pretty rough. I said it in the off season and got blasted for it, but signing JKidd to coach a team with this small of a window is mental. You don't throw in a rookie coach to coach guys who are only going to be playing another 1-2 seasons max. That is just a ridiculously bad move, and I can't believe more people weren't bashing Billy King for this before.

[Higga]

Prokorov.

You can't buy a championship.

[MaxRider]

the GM for hiring Kidd as head coach

[Tave]

In fairness, Kidd was hired before the trade, although the point remains that Dwill/JJ/Lopez was a win-now roster regardless.

I think they'll give Kidd a year, sorta like Mark Jackson, but you never know.

More generally, I think too many people in the NBA have fallen in love with the Boston Plan (i.e., the idea that you can throw a team together in one year and win a title). What Boston did with Pierce/Allen/KG was very unusual, basically the exception to the rule that players need a few years together to grow and develop chemistry. It worked because those guys came together at just the right time, complimented each other perfectly, and their team defense was phenomenal.

[pylb]

Easy answer: Billy King.

[dautjazz]

Number of reasons:

1. Coach, why in the world would you chose someone that has ZERO coaching experience when you need to show results NOW with a very small window.

2. Injuries, self explanatory.

3. Deron Williams, in defense, he's had tons of little injuries, but then again so has Chris Paul, and many other players, and they don't play this bad. Either way, I'd love to see how good Williams can be completely healthy, because he's regressed since he put on a Net jersey. Ironic considering he probably forced Jerry Sloan's hand out of the Jazz (well he's back now).

4. Time. Chemistry takes time. Miami was a .500 ball club after like 22 games, and they definitely should of beat Dallas, but fell short since they were still learning how to play together. Ofcourse, then there is the 2008 Celtics which just stepped on the court looking like they'd been playing together for years.

I was among those that thought that they would be a top 4-5 team in the league with the Spurs, Heat, and Pacers.

[MaxRider]

In fairness, Kidd was hired before the trade, although the point remains that Dwill/JJ/Lopez was a win-now roster regardless.

I think they'll give Kidd a year, sorta like Mark Jackson, but you never know.

More generally, I think too many people in the NBA have fallen in love with the Boston Plan (i.e., the idea that you can throw a team together in one year and win a title). What Boston did with Pierce/Allen/KG was very unusual, basically the exception to the rule that players need a few years together to grow and develop chemistry. It worked because those guys came together at just the right time, complimented each other perfectly, and their team defense was phenomenal.

i know but you just don't give the head coach job to a someone who don't have any coaching experience

[XcalibuR]

They don't care about the regular season. They want to make a noise in the postseason. Which is a probability.

They play in the east, they could suck it right up and will still probably go into the second round

No one thinks making the second round in the east is making noise

[Tave]

In fairness, Kidd was hired before the trade, although the point remains that Dwill/JJ/Lopez was a win-now roster regardless.

I think they'll give Kidd a year, sorta like Mark Jackson, but you never know.

More generally, I think too many people in the NBA have fallen in love with the Boston Plan (i.e., the idea that you can throw a team together in one year and win a title). What Boston did with Pierce/Allen/KG was very unusual, basically the exception to the rule that players need a few years together to grow and develop chemistry. It worked because those guys came together at just the right time, complimented each other perfectly, and their team defense was phenomenal.

i know but you just don't give the head coach job to a someone who don't have any coaching experience

It worked for the Warriors (although even then it took a year).

[MaxRider]

In fairness, Kidd was hired before the trade, although the point remains that Dwill/JJ/Lopez was a win-now roster regardless.

I think they'll give Kidd a year, sorta like Mark Jackson, but you never know.

More generally, I think too many people in the NBA have fallen in love with the Boston Plan (i.e., the idea that you can throw a team together in one year and win a title). What Boston did with Pierce/Allen/KG was very unusual, basically the exception to the rule that players need a few years together to grow and develop chemistry. It worked because those guys came together at just the right time, complimented each other perfectly, and their team defense was phenomenal.

i know but you just don't give the head coach job to a someone who don't have any coaching experience

It worked for the Warriors (although even then it took a year).

different situation
Warriors wasn't good when they hired Jackson
Nets is a playoff team

[Juggynaut]

U can't compare Mark Jackson to Jason Kidd, JK just came out of retirement to coach. JK didn't have years coming off of retirement to adjust himself from being a player. I honestly believe he still looks at himself as a player and thinks he can still play today.

Mark Jackson had like 6-7 years to adjust to his new life.

Also Mark Jackson and JK are completely different people, mindsets, and personalities. Mark is a very religious person and he brings that to his locker room while also being a good motivator. I honestly don't know much about JK but he seems more like a private person.

[LoyalKing]

Billy King

He is a moron as a GM.

[EscapoTHB]

Players. They aren't working hard enough. No passion. Also. Old.

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[DrazenForThree]

blame is on lopez/dwill.

they are the 2 best players on the team and they set the tone. and that tone is lazy, lathargic, uninspired play along with nothing but excuses and a ho-hum attitude after losses. it was clear as day our issue last year was a lack of intensity and playing lifeless basketball. its the main reason we lost to the bulls, who simply brought twice the effort we did.

I was convinced bringing in leaders like KG/Pierce would help... but it seems the opposite is happening, they are instead being infected with the loser, lifeless, lotto stench this team has had the past 5-6 years.

You are only going to go as far as your best guys take you... and when they set an example of mediocrity and have no issues being ok that kills things really fast.

kidd doesnt help. no one expected him to coach, but i did expect him to lead or motivate. he has been a giant issue as well. but i dont think anything is a bigger issue then our 2 best players simply not playing with high effort on a nightly basis.

[fast-break]

I would say most blame falls on Deron...but injuries or not, I really don't think he's as good as expected to be. Maybe he was a "system star", after all.

[xMADEinDADEx]

I love it when people talk **** and it backfires.
"We are better than the heat"

No, you're not. First get to .500


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