Trading Monroe: Nic Batum? Kawhi Leonard?

[StickAndMove]

PER factors in steals and blocks, not defense.

Fair enough. I provided win shares as well, which do factor in defense rather than just blocks/steals.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html

According to these metrics, Josh Smith is indeed more valuable defensively, as you've stated. However, the overall win shares show that Greg Monroe is the better overall player. He has posted more win shares in every year of his NBA career. In his first two seasons, it was close, but last year, it was not, and so far this year, it has not been.

[sc8581]

PER factors in steals and blocks, not defense.

Fair enough. I provided win shares as well, which do factor in defense rather than just blocks/steals.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html

According to these metrics, Josh Smith is indeed more valuable defensively, as you've stated. However, the overall win shares show that Greg Monroe is the better overall player. He has posted more win shares in every year of his NBA career. In his first two seasons, it was close, but last year, it was not, and so far this year, it has not been.

I don't buy into WS, especially when it comes to determining the importance of defense and other things that go unnoticed. I'm all for advanced metrics as I'm a big fan of WAR in baseball, but the 2 sports are way too different when it comes to stats and I don't like the defensive metrics in baseball either, they told me Johnny Peralta was a good SS lol.