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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#61 » by Hans Embiid » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:09 pm

SBM wrote:Mitch McGary. The 2 sites I look to for mock drafts have him at #25 and #18. I think he will have a career similar to David Lee/Al Horford. That's a hell of a pick for a mid first rounder.

This is the type of draft where they overrate so many guys in the lotto while 3 to 5 players outside the lotto make multiple all-star appearances


this.

And keep an eye on McDermott.

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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#62 » by boateng » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:37 am

ManualRam wrote:nobody's sleeping on exum. he could do as little as possible and still be taken top 5-6. i actually expect that to happen. his last impression was a good one and he can ride that wave into the predraft process. he's got the mystique factor and because of that he'll probably be taken higher than others who have shown more. he's got the benefit of not being scrutinized more.

thats a good point actually

who does he resemble in terms of play?

westbrook?
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#63 » by 165bows » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:01 am

Interesting guy mentioned on one of the ESPN 5-on-5's on the draft was U. La-Lafayette's PG Elfrid Payton. The guy got the last possible invite to the U19 championships, then made the team. Also, he's a junior but still only 19 years old. Got that pre-season mention and has now put up 23 points, 4 boards and 4 assists with 3 steals so far. Not a good shooter from deep but getting 10 FTs/game so far.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#64 » by Cammo101 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:23 am

165bows wrote:Interesting guy mentioned on one of the ESPN 5-on-5's on the draft was U. La-Lafayette's PG Elfrid Payton. The guy got the last possible invite to the U19 championships, then made the team. Also, he's a junior but still only 19 years old. Got that pre-season mention and has now put up 23 points, 4 boards and 4 assists with 3 steals so far. Not a good shooter from deep but getting 10 FTs/game so far.


This is a good choice. This kid can really play.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#65 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:57 am

Perry Ellis has Taj Gibson frame and Defense with Thaddues Young knack for basket. He will be a very productive rotational big.
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Post#66 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Perry Ellis is 6'8 and can't shoot.
Payton is a stud, top20 for me.
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Post#67 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:58 pm

THE GOAT ROSE wrote:
SBM wrote:Mitch McGary. The 2 sites I look to for mock drafts have him at #25 and #18. I think he will have a career similar to David Lee/Al Horford. That's a hell of a pick for a mid first rounder.

This is the type of draft where they overrate so many guys in the lotto while 3 to 5 players outside the lotto make multiple all-star appearances


this.

And keep an eye on McDermott.

He will be a stud.


If you consider Kyle Korver a stud sure! Always advertise your guy...
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Post#68 » by pickIBL » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:33 pm

Rayvonte Rice is a nice prospect that will get some attention this year.
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Post#69 » by ManualRam » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:31 am

boateng wrote:
ManualRam wrote:nobody's sleeping on exum. he could do as little as possible and still be taken top 5-6. i actually expect that to happen. his last impression was a good one and he can ride that wave into the predraft process. he's got the mystique factor and because of that he'll probably be taken higher than others who have shown more. he's got the benefit of not being scrutinized more.

thats a good point actually

who does he resemble in terms of play?

westbrook?

he reminds me more of a taller barbosa. very fast in the open floor, not that explosive off the floor. good length. thin build. makes good use of extension and body control around the rim. long, rangy first step. not a polished ball-handler, right hand dominant. primarily a straight line drive or 1 quick change of direction and go. not much of a playmaker in terms of passing. more of a sg who likes to play on the ball.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#70 » by harithak47 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:25 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Perry Ellis has Taj Gibson frame and Defense with Thaddues Young knack for basket. He will be a very productive rotational big.


I agree with Perry Ellis being underrated but he does not have Taj Gibson athleticism or defense, he can be a stretch 3/4 and post up 3's and smaller 4's. To the next poster I feel like you haven't watched Perry Ellis play, he can shoot the ball pretty well. He reminds me a lot of Lamarcus Aldridge.
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Post#71 » by ManualRam » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:58 pm

perry ellis is a short armed PF. how is he like either of those guys?
he's more like a carl landry type imo. 3rd big upside unless he completely converts to SF or is used as a power SF like a corliss williamson.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#72 » by Talent Chaser » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:04 pm

6'3" PG Elfrid Payton is lone D1 player averaging 20 PPG (22.5), 5 RPG (5.3), 5 APG (5.3), 3 SPG (3) this year. This kid is super impressive, I think he will make his way into the 16-20 area on draft day.
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Post#73 » by ManualRam » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:15 am

Talent Chaser wrote:6'3" PG Elfrid Payton is lone D1 player averaging 20 PPG (22.5), 5 RPG (5.3), 5 APG (5.3), 3 SPG (3) this year. This kid is super impressive, I think he will make his way into the 16-20 area on draft day.

he cant shoot worth a damn but he's a very interesting player. he's another one of those slashing/playmaking guards, not much of a table setter, but he's slithery and long with a solid IQ.
i thought he was the most impressive defender on the team usa u19 squad this past summer. very quick laterally, plays wide, has active hands and anticipates well.
reminds me of taller patrick beverley. needs to continue to put on more weight if he wants to continue being effective as a slasher.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#74 » by Talent Chaser » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:17 am

ManualRam wrote:
Talent Chaser wrote:6'3" PG Elfrid Payton is lone D1 player averaging 20 PPG (22.5), 5 RPG (5.3), 5 APG (5.3), 3 SPG (3) this year. This kid is super impressive, I think he will make his way into the 16-20 area on draft day.

he cant shoot worth a damn but he's a very interesting player. he's another one of those slashing/playmaking guards, not much of a table setter, but he's slithery and long with a solid IQ.
i thought he was the most impressive defender on the team usa u19 squad this past summer. very quick laterally, plays wide, has active hands and anticipates well.
reminds me of taller patrick beverley. needs to continue to put on more weight if he wants to continue being effective as a slasher.

He has great physical tools, and shooting is the easiest thing to improve upon once in the NBA. He has a lot of upside.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#75 » by No-Man » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:06 am

Rodney Hood is a stud, with this level of agresiveness.
And Payton is a top20 talent, no sleeper.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#76 » by harithak47 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:19 am

ManualRam wrote:perry ellis is a short armed PF. how is he like either of those guys?
he's more like a carl landry type imo. 3rd big upside unless he completely converts to SF or is used as a power SF like a corliss williamson.


Yea you're right about my Aldridge comparison but he isn't the offensive liability that Taj Gibson is and he has shown some range. I like the Carl Landry comparison though.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#77 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:52 am

Would y'all consider Rod Hood a sleeper at this point? After his 30 pt performance tonight:

5 GP, 21.8 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 34-47 FGs (!) 8-11 3pt FGs (!), 33-40 FTs (!)

Obviously, those percentages will come down, but goodness, he's ridiculously efficient.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#78 » by Talent Chaser » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:18 am

-Roscoe Smith is a slept on prospect from UNLV. 6'8 Junior PF who is a garbage man scorer and a rebounding machine, 2nd round prospect most likely. Has been averaging 14 points and 15 boards on 53% shooting. I don't really see a big difference between him and Perry Ellis honestly.
- Also really like Junior Branden Dawson from Michigan State. He's a 6'6 SF who is a versatile defender, is VERY explosive and has a nice all-around game. Has been averaging 9 points, 10 boards, 2 steals, and 3 assists on 52% shooting this season. I firmly believe he has a place in the nba as a nice role player who can do a little bit of everything.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#79 » by ManualRam » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:29 am

hood would already be in my lotto, but i don't know where. he's been really impressive. he could already shoot it but his driving game has been more impressive to me. his pull up leaner game is calbert cheaney-esque and he's finishing his drives with force. he's looks more athletic with the added muscle too.
high iq, can catch and shoot, can defend so he at least has 3 and d potential.
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Re: Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft? 

Post#80 » by ManualRam » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:34 am

Talent Chaser wrote:-Roscoe Smith is a slept on prospect from UNLV. 6'8 Junior PF who is a garbage man scorer and a rebounding machine, 2nd round prospect most likely. Has been averaging 14 points and 15 boards on 53% shooting. I don't really see a big difference between him and Perry Ellis honestly.
- Also really like Junior Branden Dawson from Michigan State. He's a 6'6 SF who is a versatile defender, is VERY explosive and has a nice all-around game. Has been averaging 9 points, 10 boards, 2 steals, and 3 assists on 52% shooting this season. I firmly believe he has a place in the nba as a nice role player who can do a little bit of everything.


i like khem birch more as an nba prospect his lateral quicks and quick leaping ability gives him immense defensive potential. laterally, i think he's the quickest big in the college game.

not crazy about dawson. he's strong, can jump and he plays hard, but he plays more like an undersized pf and his offensive skills have been way too slow to develop.
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