Time to Start from Scratch

Moses_Malone95 · Post #1 » by **Moses_Malone95** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:08 pm

I don't understand what this Lakers team is all about. Am I the only one? If they're relying on Kobe to take them to the next level, they're in for a rude awakening. He's not going to be what he was before. Gasol is lost in this system, so either he needs to go or D'Antoni should get the boot. The rest of the guys are a bunch of spare parts. I'm not seeing what I'm supposed to see here.

Penberthy · Post #2 » by **Penberthy** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:28 pm

Moses_Malone95 wrote:I don't understand what this Lakers team is all about. Am I the only one? If they're relying on Kobe to take them to the next level, they're in for a rude awakening. He's not going to be what he was before. Gasol is lost in this system, so either he needs to go or D'Antoni should get the boot. The rest of the guys are a bunch of spare parts. I'm not seeing what I'm supposed to see here.

This is how I see it
There are 4 young guys that were very high picks on teams that sucked and wanted them to be franchise players. They may not be franchise players, but at least 2 could pan out to be great role players:
X- 12th pick, Kansas, 22 years old
Hill- 8th pick, Arizona, 26 years old
Wes- 4th pick, Syracuse, 26 years old
Young- 16th pick, USC, 28 years old
People are clamoring for us to trade everyone for first round picks, well, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that we draft a single player better than ANY of those 4 with a traded 1st round pick.

Noone is expecting Kobe to win a championship for us this year. I am hoping he can mentor people like X, Young, and Wes, while getting them wide open shots/dunks and building their confidence.

Pau looks flat out of shape to me. He has no lift on shots, rebounds, or blocks, and struggles to get up and down the floor. I am hoping that is all it is and it goes away in a month or so. If its an injury, I doubt he recovers and he will be a skinny sabonis the rest of his career. I have a feeling Kobe's return will rejuvinate pau's legs.

The truth is, management will never get rid of kobe. He will have to retire or leave on his own through free agency or trade request. That's just the way it is.

Our best hope for this season is to develop the young guys, have pau and kobe resign for much less or retire, and sign maybe one huge free agent this off season, and another next off season.

SlimShady83 · Post #3 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:06 am

LOL you make me laugh

thanks for that. OP .

MistyMountain20 · Post #4 » by **MistyMountain20** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:11 am

This board can be like Fox News sometimes. Take it easy, the sky is not falling.

Tiesto_Lakers · Post #5 » by **Tiesto_Lakers** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:37 am

Start from scratch?

Uhhh...our entire team is on a 1-year contract. I think that's the plan.

jellybean8 · Post #6 » by **jellybean8** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:41 am

If steve nash gets medical retirement im looking forward to what we can create next yr

Post #7 » by **crazyeights** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:59 am

Good work, all. And1's all around.

Post #8 » by **dockingsched** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:02 am

you know, its ok to just enjoy a season even if its not going to end in a title. its pretty nice actually.

SlimShady83 · Post #9 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:15 am

At least he has high expectations unlike those rooting for the tank/draft

stunnar0b · Post #10 » by **stunnar0b** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:19 pm

skullz wrote:At least he has high expectations unlike those rooting for the tank/draft

What's wrong with rooting for the draft in a year that all we have are c players on one year deals and our only top notch player is 57 coming back from a torn achillies.

I rep my lakers as much as the nex guy but you can't believe we're gonna stay top dog every year. Especially now with this new collective bargaining agreement. Lakers gotta be smarter and develop their youngster.

I just don't get this false playoff hopes, this infatuation people have in wanting to be a first and out team and potentially missing out on a top flight rook.

I'll tell ya

Dr Aki · Post #11 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:54 pm

i for one am looking forward to having capspace

stunnar0b · Post #12 » by **stunnar0b** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Cap space is a given, cap space with a lottery pick would be optimal

Post #13 » by **crazyeights** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:24 pm

stunnar0b wrote:
skullz wrote:At least he has high expectations unlike those rooting for the tank/draft

What's wrong with rooting for the draft in a year that all we have are c players on one year deals and our only top notch player is 57 coming back from a torn achillies.

I rep my lakers as much as the nex guy but you can't believe we're gonna stay top dog every year. Especially now with this new collective bargaining agreement. Lakers gotta be smarter and develop their youngster.

I just don't get this false playoff hopes, this infatuation people have in wanting to be a first and out team and potentially missing out on a top flight rook.

I'll tell ya

I still can't help but feeling the league is wide-open this season. Now I wouldn't give the Lakers much of a chance, but I also wouldn't say it's worth losing, all in the hopes of winning a great pick in a lottery, in the hopes being able to extend said player in 3 years, and then they're ready to start carrying the team.

Even the greats take time to mold into franchise players.

Penberthy · Post #14 » by **Penberthy** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:36 pm

For those rooting for a tank, I still dont understand who you think we are going to get with pick 10-14 that is better than say Jordan Hill. If you look at history, we are much more likely to get a Shannon Brown. We are not getting a Top 5 pick, even if kobe and nash sit out the rest of the year we are still WAAAAY better than the likes of NO, Sac, Utah, PHX, Mil, Was, etc.

stunnar0b · Post #15 » by **stunnar0b** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:49 pm

It took time for Kobe to develop into champion franchise player so why not take that same approach this time around. We need something to keep in our back pocket for the future, we can't just rely on free agency when the best FA target out there is Kevin love.

I know it's easier said then done but some of these rookies have as much if not more raw talent then Kobe did coming into league, but we all know its what's in between the ears that makes Kobe great. Ah we'll see

stunnar0b · Post #16 » by **stunnar0b** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:52 pm

Penberthy wrote:For those rooting for a tank, I still dont understand who you think we are going to get with pick 10-14 that is better than say Jordan Hill. If you look at history, we are much more likely to get a Shannon Brown. We are not getting a Top 5 pick, even if kobe and nash sit out the rest of the year we are still WAAAAY better than the likes of NO, Sac, Utah, PHX, Mil, Was, etc.

Throw in pau and now we're talkin

SlimShady83 · Post #17 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:50 pm

Will write a more detailed post for this later down the road when I have some free time

DrewBynum77 · Post #18 » by **DrewBynum77** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:46 am

dockingsched wrote:you know, its ok to just enjoy a season even if its not going to end in a title. its pretty nice actually.

Indeed. Last season's rollercoaster took some weeks out of my life expectancy. For sure. Stressed the crap out of me.

Post #19 » by **Kilroy** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:22 am

It's much easier to deal with a low expectation sucky team than a high expectation sucky team...

Getting swept by Dallas in Phil's last season was way more frustrating. Then the Dwightmare Whistle-Stop tour was a killer.

KB24TBOTB · Post #20 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:11 am

Kilroy wrote:It's much easier to deal with a low expectation sucky team than a high expectation sucky team...

Getting swept by Dallas in Phil's last season was way more frustrating. Then the Dwightmare Whistle-Stop tour was a killer.

It hurt more cause we looked so promising after the All-star break in 2011