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'14 Draft Thread - Now With a Poll: VOTE OR DIE.

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Who would you pick?

Wiggins
84
31%
Parker
113
42%
Randle
2
1%
Exum
20
7%
Smart
4
1%
Embiid
39
14%
Gordon
1
0%
Saric
1
0%
LaVine
4
1%
Other
2
1%
 
Total votes: 270

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Post#621 » by randy84 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:12 am

jr lucosa wrote:I was going to say it will be interesting to watch Smart against South Florida as putting together back to back good games and overall consistency has been one of his bigger issues, but that's going to be something to watch even in the 2nd half of this game. Since the 9 minute mark of the half he went 0-5 (0-3 3's) with 2 TO's and one (very easy) assist.

His impact on the defensive end though, it's really something else.


He looks to be a really smart defender. This is the first game that I have really watched him and he doesn't seem to be a natural PG, but I think he would be fine as a PG at the NBA level.
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Post#622 » by A Diddy2231 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:13 am

Ill take Paul George anyday of the week
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Post#623 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:13 am

Mikeylikesit wrote:Would some of you stop acting like Wiggins is on Parker's level right now? Parker would NEVER be disappearing like Wiggins does in games. Against Iona, Wiggins is 1-3 for 4 points. Sorry, if you are the best prospect since KD that DOES NOT happen. Against Duke, he had the same thing happen. Luckily for him, Duke is a bad team and can't slow a fast break or have anyone but their SF rebound the ball. Did I mention I HATE passive players that are supposed to be superstars? I don't care how many stars your team has, you are supposed to be THE BEST. He's not an alpha dog. The Bucks need an alpha dog.


I don't think it is a mental thing. I think he simply doesn't have the type of game where you can give him the ball and he'll make something happen for himself or others. He's purely a finisher, and there is only so much you can do offensively as that type of guy.
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Post#624 » by Mikeylikesit » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:14 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
Mikeylikesit wrote:
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He's averaging 19 a game while playing elite defense. He's averaging the same amount of FGAs per game George did the season before he was drafted, and George wasn't playing with future NBA first rounders. Don't know what else you need to see.


He's had 1 good half of basketball this year. And if Paul George is "IT" then I'm not impressed by this draft class.


So you're discounting that whole Big 12 Player of the Year as an 18 year old, presumptive #1 pick thing he did last year. Gotcha.


We are talking Wiggins, not Smart. Smart has issues as well though. That first half was a fluke regarding his efficiency.
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Post#625 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:15 am

Mikeylikesit wrote:He's had 1 good half of basketball this year. And if Paul George is "IT" then I'm not impressed by this draft class.

And your "it" factor might have the Knicks struggling to make the playoffs.
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Post#626 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:15 am

Legit f*ck-up, my bad. Seriously, Smart with a jumper has broke my brain.
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Post#627 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:19 am

Sick finish by Ellis. Nice find by Wigs.
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Post#628 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:19 am

Yea, this Wiggins kid is trash.
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Post#629 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:20 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Yea, this Wiggins kid is trash.

Did you see him pass up that three to drive and get his teammate an easy shot? That's the passive **** we don't need.
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Post#630 » by hakjak » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:20 am

Nice win by the Wiz over the TWolves!
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Post#631 » by bigkurty » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:25 am

Man Smart just has the best defensive hands I have seen in quite awhile. I like James Harden comparison for him only with better hands on D.
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Post#632 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:25 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Yea, this Wiggins kid is trash.

Did you see him pass up that three to drive and get his teammate an easy shot? That's the passive **** we don't need.


I realize we could argue about this all day, but I can understand why people would question why he isn't in attack mode much more often on the offensive end considering he's been hyped as a LeBron level prospect.
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Post#633 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:27 am

bigkurty wrote:Man Smart just has the best defensive hands I have seen in quite awhile. I like James Harden comparison for him only with better hands on D.


His D is overwhelming on the collegiate level.

I wish Ricky Rubio had a body like Smart.
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Post#634 » by Mikeylikesit » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:27 am

Ayt wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Yea, this Wiggins kid is trash.

Did you see him pass up that three to drive and get his teammate an easy shot? That's the passive **** we don't need.


I realize we could argue about this all day, but I can understand why people would question why he isn't in attack mode much more often on the offensive end considering he's been hyped as a LeBron level prospect.


Exactly. And if he was driving and dishing to Bucks, those shots wouldn't be going in.
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Post#635 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:28 am

Ayt wrote:
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ReasonablySober wrote:Yea, this Wiggins kid is trash.

Did you see him pass up that three to drive and get his teammate an easy shot? That's the passive **** we don't need.


I realize we could argue about this all day, but I can understand why people would question why he isn't in attack mode much more often on the offensive end considering he's been hyped as a LeBron level prospect.

And Anthony Davis was touted as Tim Duncan and he was scoring 9 points a game on his way to a national championship.
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Post#636 » by Mikeylikesit » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:28 am

bigkurty wrote:Man Smart just has the best defensive hands I have seen in quite awhile. I like James Harden comparison for him only with better hands on D.


Harden had a much better offensive game. I know he has exploded tonight, I just don't think he's that kind of player. He could develop into it though if he keeps working on that shot. His form looks fine.
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Post#637 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:28 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Ayt wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Did you see him pass up that three to drive and get his teammate an easy shot? That's the passive **** we don't need.


I realize we could argue about this all day, but I can understand why people would question why he isn't in attack mode much more often on the offensive end considering he's been hyped as a LeBron level prospect.

And Anthony Davis was touted as Tim Duncan and he was scoring 9 points a game on his way to a national championship.


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Post#638 » by randy84 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:28 am

OH SNAP! Smart with the dunk.
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Post#639 » by DanoMac » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:29 am

Smart reminds me of Rose with less athleticism/speed but a better jumper. Still great athleticism though, just not once in a decade's in your PG in Rose.
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Post#640 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:29 am

randy84 wrote:OH SNAP! Smart with the dunk.


Brandon Knight can do that.
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