GT #11: Wizards @ Cavs 7 PM CSN

[nuposse04]

Tonight was basketball night at my local gym so I missed most of the 2nd half. I turned it off 2 minutes into the 2nd half when we were up 64-38. What did I miss?

Mainly us going full ruhturd in the 4th quarter...that and a possible heart attack. Literally, until like 2 mins were left, the only good thing I saw in the 4th was an Jan Alley Oop. Still, I'm glad we got the W. We need a backup PG in the most desperate way possible.

BTW, its only 6 games, but Shelvin Mack's current per36 and advanced stats make me hate everything

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[truwizfan4evr]

I don't think Maynor even good enough to be on a D league roster.

[dobrojim]

Was happy after 3 quarters. Now I don't care that we win. I'm disgusted.

It's hard to win in this league. Especially when you've never done it before.

Just be happy with the win and hope they improve.

They won. On to TOR. Sure would be nice to have Ariza back to guard
Gay and/or deRozan.

At this risk of setting the bar low, they didn't win a road game last year
until what, January? 2nd road win, fugly but it's a win. We saw the best
and worst all within a short period of time.

[dobrojim]

It's hard to win in this league. Especially when you've never done it before.

Just be happy with the win and hope they improve.

How about winning on the road? And on a back-to-back? We have a ton of issues and I think a combination of fatigue, some poor coaching and sloppy play at the end nearly killed us. We don't have the bench to hold up a 27-point lead. Not now.

Speaking of not having a bench...anyone interested in Kwame Brown?

If we had a solid PG and another big it would make a tremendous difference...imo.

probably better than KSera...low bar again.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

That Delleavedova kid is better than Maynor.. just read that he was undrafted

The Wizards drafted an even better PG, Nate Wolters.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

stunning Ves with the offensive contribution

keep up the D guys

Will CLE go hack-a-Ves?

Vesely played well in FIBA play, by rebounding and scoring well, except at the FT line. Vesely shot jumpers very well (Dirk form step back) in summer league. Vesely has always been unselfish. He has played with high energy, even defending well in transition.

I am not surprised.

Not at all. Vesely has always been a useful player. He clearly has worked to improve. He deserves credit.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Well we are in the 8th seed as of this moment.

Fifth or even fourth seed is within their reach.

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[dangermouse]

Nene played 38 minutes tonight! Way too much. The Wiz need to find a way to limit his PT. Hopefully Harrington gets back b/c he provides some semblence of depth.

Harrington makes the team worse. He plays no D, he doesn't rebound, and he fouls a lot.

This.

He was shooting well from deep and scoring decently off the bench. But what he does there, he shoots us in the foot even worse on the defensive side.

I'd like to see him back but only getting ~8 mins a game. He needs to be with two strong rebounders, Gortat and Ariza maybe, and definitely with Wall because whats the point in stretching the floor without a penetrating PG.

[hands11]

Do you'll realize we didn't win even once on the road on the back end of a back to back at all last year.

[Illmatic21]

That Delleavedova kid is better than Maynor.. just read that he was undrafted

The Wizards drafted an even better PG, Nate Wolters.

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Wolters has looked pretty damn poised so far. He's got those 4 years of college experience.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Boy do we need Ariza back. Even big Al just for his shooting. And yes, he'll play for Booker and Ves should get playing 15-20 mpg.

Adding AH back wouldn't help, it would hurt.

He has been terrible. No D. No passing. High usage. AH isn't what they need. Now Trevor A would help.

Wittman played Al more than Maertell. At the same time Booker started and Vesely didn't play several games. Most were saying get rid of Vesely.

I am glad injuries forced change.

Ariza plays well with Webster. Harrington has had hot streaks and he is a savvy veteran who has a ton of heart. Golden State upset a one seed in the playoffs in part thanks to Al. Harrington has played well as a Nugget with Nene.

The problem IMO is the blending of each player by the coaching staff. A short bench and favorites who haven't performed well in extended minutes is something coaching will need to adapt and correct whatvhas not worked.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

That Delleavedova kid is better than Maynor.. just read that he was undrafted

The Wizards drafted an even better PG, Nate Wolters.

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Wolters has looked pretty damn poised so far. He's got those 4 years of college experience.

He could have been a Wizard the next 10 years--the first two years on a rookie deal.

Money spent on Maynor could have been used on a PF/C like Dejuan Blair.

The good news is Temple is a decent backup PG because he is a terrific defender and the Wizards did right to resign him.

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[Knighthonor]

Boy do we need Ariza back. Even big Al just for his shooting. And yes, he'll play for Booker and Ves should get playing 15-20 mpg.

Adding AH back wouldn't help, it would hurt.

He has been terrible. No D. No passing. High usage. AH isn't what they need. Now Trevor A would help.

Wittman played Al more than Maertell. At the same time Booker started and Vesely didn't play several games. Most were saying get rid of Vesely.

I am glad injuries forced change.

Ariza plays well with Webster. Harrington has had hot streaks and he is a savvy veteran who has a ton of heart. Golden State upset a one seed in the playoffs in part thanks to Al. Harrington has played well as a Nugget with Nene.

The problem IMO is the blending of each player by the coaching staff. A short bench and favorites who haven't performed well in extended minutes is something coaching will need to adapt and correct whatvhas not worked.

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so how would you suggest they distribute mins?

[Dat2U]

Cavs are f*cked. That team is terrible save for Kyrie and he looks like he's sick of it.

The Wizards starting lineup is really starting to mesh together into a cohesive unit. I really like Webster in there opposed to Ariza. Wall, Beal & Webster just have a really nice synergy together.

But the bench problem isn't going away though. We survived tonight, but it's going to be a nightly struggle. We can't continue playing guys 40 minutes a night. Wall was completely done by midway 4th quarter and basically became a 5th option and got torched defensively. Beal was having all sorts of issues in a lead ball handling role late as he nearly fell apart. Deep into the 4th quarter of a back to back playing heavy minutes, guys are going to tire.

[mhd]

Cavs are f*cked. That team is terrible save for Kyrie and he looks like he's sick of it.

The Wizards starting lineup is really starting to mesh together into a cohesive unit. I really like Webster in there opposed to Ariza. Wall, Beal & Webster just have a really nice synergy together.

But the bench problem isn't going away though. We survived tonight, but it's going to be a nightly struggle. We can't continue playing guys 40 minutes a night. Wall was completely done by midway 4th quarter and basically became a 5th option and got torched defensively. Beal was having all sorts of issues in a lead ball handling role late as he nearly fell apart. Deep into the 4th quarter of a back to back playing heavy minutes, guys are going to tire.

Ariza coming back will help Dat, but you are 100% on the money as usual. We BADLY need a 3rd big (Amir Johnson would be ideal) and a combo guard.

[dobrojim]

Cavs are f*cked. That team is terrible save for Kyrie and he looks like he's sick of it.

The Wizards starting lineup is really starting to mesh together into a cohesive unit. I really like Webster in there opposed to Ariza. Wall, Beal & Webster just have a really nice synergy together.

But the bench problem isn't going away though. We survived tonight, but it's going to be a nightly struggle. We can't continue playing guys 40 minutes a night. Wall was completely done by midway 4th quarter and basically became a 5th option and got torched defensively. Beal was having all sorts of issues in a lead ball handling role late as he nearly fell apart. Deep into the 4th quarter of a back to back playing heavy minutes, guys are going to tire.

As well as Ariza was playing, I agree with you. What has impressed me recently with
Webster (last 2 games) is that he has been boarding really well. This team needs everyone
on the floor to do their part grabbing broads.

Plus, Webster is a great interview. He was on the radio after the MIN game and
just comes across as a very cool cat. He not a 'dumb jock', that's for sure.

[closg00]

I was wrong about the Cavs, I thought they would be better IF Bynum was healthy.

[verbal8]

I was wrong about the Cavs, I thought they would be better IF Bynum was healthy.

Bynum has been on the court, but he really hasn't contributed a ton. Varejao has been solid, but other than Irving the rest of the players have been pretty bad for the Cavs.

[Brenice]

I was wrong about the Cavs, I thought they would be better IF Bynum was healthy.

Bynum has been on the court, but he really hasn't contributed a ton. Varejao has been solid, but other than Irving the rest of the players have been pretty bad for the Cavs.

The Cavs have no point guard. Both games we played them, early Kyrie was non-existent. If he is not full-throttle in score mode, he does nothing in terms of running the offense. He's less of a point guard than Gilbert was. Kyrie is a small shooting guard. Same as Waiters. Too bad they hit the lottery and drafted Bennett. The better fit would have been Carter-Williams, a huge PG to play next to Kyrie, a small shooting guard.

[stevemcqueen1]

The Bench is totally unsorted. We've got a lot of dead weight on the bench right now. If Vesely keeps playing like he has, then he'll be one good player in our rotation. When Porter gets back in a week or two, hopefully he'll be another.

Maynor, Harrington, Seraphin are not pulling their weight and we're a better team when they don't play. Ariza is going to be redundant when Porter plays. Booker and Temple haven't done a whole lot. That's six players where replacing them with a few upgrades would significantly improve the team.