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Post#2881 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:45 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:The Knicks arent getting a draft pick for a player on an opt out, they'll have to sweeten the deal to get any team to bite....not like the Bulls would do this deal anyway, especially not with Thibbs as the coach.

Neither player would start on his team, they dont defend like starters should.



Melo is starting on the Bulls, thats insane talk.


Thibs would take Melo

but the Gospel according to Thugger says he wouldn't

He wouldnt, guys who dont play defense gets little minutes with Thibbs, he isnt concerned with how much you score....he used to bench Boozer and Noah for effort reasons alone.

But it matters none the Bulls would never make that deal.
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Post#2882 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:48 pm

i dont even know why you guys think Melo has veto power, he cant prevent any trade from happening.

Teams just know he aint worth a rental, unless the Knicks want nothing of value back.
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Post#2883 » by TheGarden » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:58 pm

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Melo is starting on the Bulls, thats insane talk.


Thibs would take Melo

but the Gospel according to Thugger says he wouldn't

He wouldnt, guys who dont play defense gets little minutes with Thibbs, he isnt concerned with how much you score....he used to bench Boozer and Noah for effort reasons alone.

But it matters none the Bulls would never make that deal.


I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs
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Post#2884 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:02 am

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Thibs would take Melo

but the Gospel according to Thugger says he wouldn't

He wouldnt, guys who dont play defense gets little minutes with Thibbs, he isnt concerned with how much you score....he used to bench Boozer and Noah for effort reasons alone.

But it matters none the Bulls would never make that deal.


I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs

Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#2885 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:05 am

Griffin for Melo, he's not vetoing that. He gets his max money, LA market and his buddy Chris Paul who he just happens to share the same agent with.
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Post#2886 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:05 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:He wouldnt, guys who dont play defense gets little minutes with Thibbs, he isnt concerned with how much you score....he used to bench Boozer and Noah for effort reasons alone.

But it matters none the Bulls would never make that deal.


I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs

Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.


they dont have a player who can take over games, take pressure off Rose, stretch the floor, they cant score which is why they never get pass Miami

now they could add a ton of guys but Melo takes them to Miami's level with a healthy Rose, Noah and their role guys like Butler, Gibson and Hinrich

you really sell Melo short
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Post#2887 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:06 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:Griffin for Melo, he's not vetoing that. He gets his max money, LA market and his buddy Chris Paul who he just happens to share the same agent with.

He doesnt have veto power at all, but he'd certainly opt and sign there.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#2888 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:08 am

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Griffin for Melo, he's not vetoing that. He gets his max money, LA market and his buddy Chris Paul who he just happens to share the same agent with.

He doesnt have veto power at all, but he'd certainly opt and sign there.

how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee
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Post#2889 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:10 am

TheGarden wrote:
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I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs

Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.


they dont have a player who can take over games, take pressure off Rose, stretch the floor, they cant score which is why they never get pass Miami

now they could add a ton of guys but Melo takes them to Miami's level with a healthy Rose, Noah and their role guys like Butler, Gibson and Hinrich

you really sell Melo short

The Bulls get it done by hard work and effort, they dont need a player to take over games.

I think you value Melo a little too much.

There wasnt a single team willing to take melo at the age of 26 unless he agreed to stay.

Not happening at 30 while he's starting to break down, and at this point can you seriously say he can take the scoring load off anyone right now?
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Post#2890 » by Nyk4lyfe » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:10 am

Are we really talking about this Melo to Bulls trade? That trade doesn't make us any better right now and certainly doesnt make the future very bright either... its not like Boozer and Deng are the ideal young cheap prospects to do a rebuild around lmaoooo
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Post#2891 » by SuperflyKnick » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:11 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:He wouldnt, guys who dont play defense gets little minutes with Thibbs, he isnt concerned with how much you score....he used to bench Boozer and Noah for effort reasons alone.

But it matters none the Bulls would never make that deal.


I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs

Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.


Which team in the NBA wudnt want a superstar on there team...And why the hell wud NY want to trade there star player for bunch of overpaid role players.
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Post#2892 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:12 am

TheGarden wrote:
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Rasho Brezec wrote:Griffin for Melo, he's not vetoing that. He gets his max money, LA market and his buddy Chris Paul who he just happens to share the same agent with.

He doesnt have veto power at all, but he'd certainly opt and sign there.

how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee

Ask the Lakers. :lol:

And Denver, and Philly...they all did it.
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Post#2893 » by SuperflyKnick » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:14 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:He doesnt have veto power at all, but he'd certainly opt and sign there.

how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee

Ask the Lakers. :lol:

And Denver, and Philly...they all did it.



Forget it man...same dude just said Melo wudnt even start on the bulls
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Post#2894 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:15 am

SuperflyKnick wrote:
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I find it funny you think you know all this

Thibs wants to win, he knows he needs to upgrade one of the wing spots, Melo may not be an elite defender but he's just what that team needs and they're just what he needs

Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.


Which team in the NBA wudnt want a superstar on there team...And why the hell wud NY want to trade there star player for bunch of overpaid role players.

I dont recall teams beating Denvers door down, and as far as the scenario goes ask the person who said it.
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Post#2895 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:16 am

SuperflyKnick wrote:
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TheGarden wrote:how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee

Ask the Lakers. :lol:

And Denver, and Philly...they all did it.



Forget it man...same dude just said Melo wudnt even start on the bulls

You might wanna go back and read, the person you're collaboing with suggested that trade. :lol:
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Post#2896 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:20 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Melo isnt a Thibbs kind of player, all you have to do is watch the Bulls.

Just watch him coach, thats all you have to do.

What makes you think they need melo? I'd love to hear this.


they dont have a player who can take over games, take pressure off Rose, stretch the floor, they cant score which is why they never get pass Miami

now they could add a ton of guys but Melo takes them to Miami's level with a healthy Rose, Noah and their role guys like Butler, Gibson and Hinrich

you really sell Melo short

The Bulls get it done by hard work and effort, they dont need a player to take over games.

I think you value Melo a little too much.

There wasnt a single team willing to take melo at the age of 26 unless he agreed to stay.

Not happening at 30 while he's starting to break down, and at this point can you seriously say he can take the scoring load off anyone right now?


Melo's value to a team like the Bulls would be immense unless they want to get it done with Rose-Deng-Boozer

if Melo was a 2010 Free Agent they would have signed him, they wanted Joe Johnson and they signed Carlos Boozer who isn't close to Melo

you under value what he could do for them, they have yet to get over the hump because they cant score, you can hold a team to 90 but when you're only getting 80 you're not going to win

Rose cant do it himself

and how is he starting to break down, a partially torn labrum in April??? give it a rest try to under play his arsenal all you want because he might leave or he doesn't fit the "thugger-model" but he's perfect for Chicago and Thibs would ooze out the rest of that potential
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Post#2897 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:23 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:He doesnt have veto power at all, but he'd certainly opt and sign there.

how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee

Ask the Lakers. :lol:

And Denver, and Philly...they all did it.


they all got back talents they felt they could keep

Igoudala left due to the fit, Bynum never played in Philly and Dwight didn't wanna play with Kobe

overall you take 1 trade out of a ton but Melo dictates where he goes unless we take back scraps and he goes somewhere on a half year rental
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Post#2898 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:27 am

TheGarden wrote:
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they dont have a player who can take over games, take pressure off Rose, stretch the floor, they cant score which is why they never get pass Miami

now they could add a ton of guys but Melo takes them to Miami's level with a healthy Rose, Noah and their role guys like Butler, Gibson and Hinrich

you really sell Melo short

The Bulls get it done by hard work and effort, they dont need a player to take over games.

I think you value Melo a little too much.

There wasnt a single team willing to take melo at the age of 26 unless he agreed to stay.

Not happening at 30 while he's starting to break down, and at this point can you seriously say he can take the scoring load off anyone right now?


Melo's value to a team like the Bulls would be immense unless they want to get it done with Rose-Deng-Boozer

if Melo was a 2010 Free Agent they would have signed him, they wanted Joe Johnson and they signed Carlos Boozer who isn't close to Melo

you under value what he could do for them, they have yet to get over the hump because they cant score, you can hold a team to 90 but when you're only getting 80 you're not going to win

Rose cant do it himself

and how is he starting to break down, a partially torn labrum in April??? give it a rest try to under play his arsenal all you want because he might leave or he doesn't fit the "thugger-model" but he's perfect for Chicago and Thibs would ooze out the rest of that potential

How is a player who doesnt naturally defend or share the ball a perfect fit? :lol:
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Post#2899 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:29 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:The Bulls get it done by hard work and effort, they dont need a player to take over games.

I think you value Melo a little too much.

There wasnt a single team willing to take melo at the age of 26 unless he agreed to stay.

Not happening at 30 while he's starting to break down, and at this point can you seriously say he can take the scoring load off anyone right now?


Melo's value to a team like the Bulls would be immense unless they want to get it done with Rose-Deng-Boozer

if Melo was a 2010 Free Agent they would have signed him, they wanted Joe Johnson and they signed Carlos Boozer who isn't close to Melo

you under value what he could do for them, they have yet to get over the hump because they cant score, you can hold a team to 90 but when you're only getting 80 you're not going to win

Rose cant do it himself

and how is he starting to break down, a partially torn labrum in April??? give it a rest try to under play his arsenal all you want because he might leave or he doesn't fit the "thugger-model" but he's perfect for Chicago and Thibs would ooze out the rest of that potential

How is a player who doesnt naturally defend or share the ball a perfect fit? :lol:


so you're going to say that even though you've watched him become a better team player and defender

Thugger I'm done with you, you hate Melo, you're proving it
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Post#2900 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:33 am

TheGarden wrote:
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TheGarden wrote:how does he have no power

what team trades an asset without some kind of guarantee

Ask the Lakers. :lol:

And Denver, and Philly...they all did it.


they all got back talents they felt they could keep

Igoudala left due to the fit, Bynum never played in Philly and Dwight didn't wanna play with Kobe

overall you take 1 trade out of a ton but Melo dictates where he goes unless we take back scraps and he goes somewhere on a half year rental

What I did was answer your question, and I used the most recent blockbuster to show you have no clue what you're talking about.

The Lakers took a chance on Dwight...because he is that good.

All those other teams took chances too...Denver forked over a pick in a deep draft for an Iggy rental and Affalo.

Philly took risks as well in handing over Vucevic and Bynum never played at all...another rental.

Thats three rentals in one deal and they all gave up valuable assets.

but nobody was willing to risk giving up anything for melo....but yeah they do it at 30, but wouldnt at 26.
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