Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

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Crazy 5-team mega trade in response to the Rose injury. Couldn't completely run it through the checker, but seem about right financially.

Wizards trade: Ariza, Maynor, and Singleton
Wizards receive: Lin, Greg Smith and Jimmer

Kings trade: Patterson, Salmons, Jimmer and multiple 2nds
Kings receive: Deng

Bulls trade: Boozer and Deng
Bulls receive: Afflalo, Ariza, Patterson, Salmons, and ORL pick

Rockets trade: Asik, Lin and Greg Smith
Rockets receive: Boozer and Maynor

Magic trade: Afflalo and pick
Magic receive: Asik, Singleton and SAC 2nds

Chicago clears some 2014 salary (Ariza's expiring and Salmons deal is only $1M guaranteed) to get under the luxury tax without having to amnesty Boozer, and they get a true SG plus a pick to balance their team going forward.

For everyone else, Houston trades two pricey bench players to get a starter at PF that can pair with Dwight Howard. Orlando gets a starting center to pair with Vucevic. Sacramento deal spare parts for a starting SF. Washington takes on some salary to upgrade the bench.

Makes my head spin trying to work it out...!

Right off, I can't see why the Rockets would have any interest in this trade, nor the Magic -- who are not going to trade a first round pick -- they are "rebuilding through youth and the draft" (Ernie is not their GM). And what are we going to do with Lin? He's a starting PG, a good one.

But... I'd love to have Greg Smith! Somehow I don't think Morey is likely to give him away, alas.

[LyricalRico]

And what are we going to do with Lin? He's a starting PG, a good one.

Yeah, I was wrestling with the same thing. Maybe we could flip him for something else at the deadline.

[hands11]

Crazy 5-team mega trade in response to the Rose injury. Couldn't completely run it through the checker, but seem about right financially.

Wizards trade: Ariza, Maynor, and Singleton
Wizards receive: Lin, Greg Smith and Jimmer

Kings trade: Patterson, Salmons, Jimmer and multiple 2nds
Kings receive: Deng

Bulls trade: Boozer and Deng
Bulls receive: Afflalo, Ariza, Patterson, Salmons, and ORL pick

Rockets trade: Asik, Lin and Greg Smith
Rockets receive: Boozer and Maynor

Magic trade: Afflalo and pick
Magic receive: Asik, Singleton and SAC 2nds

Chicago clears some 2014 salary (Ariza's expiring and Salmons deal is only $1M guaranteed) to get under the luxury tax without having to amnesty Boozer, and they get a true SG plus a pick to balance their team going forward.

For everyone else, Houston trades two pricey bench players to get a starter at PF that can pair with Dwight Howard. Orlando gets a starting center to pair with Vucevic. Sacramento deal spare parts for a starting SF. Washington takes on some salary to upgrade the bench.

Damn, you must be a Bulls fan. They should jump on that in a hot min.

[dckingsfan]

Aren't the Kings and Magic playing for the draft?

[verbal8]

Aren't the Kings and Magic playing for the draft?

The Kings definitely seem to have an inside track for a high pick. If Oladipo becomes productive, it will be really hard for them to tank effectively. I think the Bucks and maybe Cavs are the only teams in the East that really seem to have the "ability" to tank.

[dckingsfan]

Aren't the Kings and Magic playing for the draft?

The Kings definitely seem to have an inside track for a high pick. If Oladipo becomes productive, it will be really hard for them to tank effectively. I think the Bucks and maybe Cavs are the only teams in the East that really seem to have the "ability" to tank.

So neither the Magic or Kings would trade their pick then???

[verbal8]

Aren't the Kings and Magic playing for the draft?

The Kings definitely seem to have an inside track for a high pick. If Oladipo becomes productive, it will be really hard for them to tank effectively. I think the Bucks and maybe Cavs are the only teams in the East that really seem to have the "ability" to tank.

So neither the Magic or Kings would trade their pick then???

The Kings have dealt theirs top 12 protected(to Cleveland). I think this pretty much means they can't deal it again.

I don't see the Magic dealing theirs. I think they want to acquire one more piece and see what they have with their young players. I could see them being "sellers" in the trade market in moving Arron Afflalo or Nelson if there is interest.

[dckingsfan]

The Kings definitely seem to have an inside track for a high pick. If Oladipo becomes productive, it will be really hard for them to tank effectively. I think the Bucks and maybe Cavs are the only teams in the East that really seem to have the "ability" to tank.

So neither the Magic or Kings would trade their pick then???

The Kings have dealt theirs top 12 protected(to Cleveland). I think this pretty much means they can't deal it again.

I don't see the Magic dealing theirs. I think they want to acquire one more piece and see what they have with their young players. I could see them being "sellers" in the trade market in moving Arron Afflalo or Nelson if there is interest.

Agreed on both accounts...

[hands11]

Why would they trade Arron Afflalo ?

He is playing great and they don't have any cap problems.

They can actually take on salary. Hedu is an exp that can also by buy out.

The team will have a ton of cap room next year and could easily go after Greg Monroe.

They are still thinking of VO as a PG. No reason to move Arron Afflalo.

They could move Nelson to a team that needs cap relief on a long contract if they team needs to reboot. Say KG has had enough and wants to retire or maybe he want to hang out in Orlando for a year being a teacher of some good young talent to give back to the game that gave so much opportunity to him. 12M of KG for one year would be good teaching for a young team like Orlando if he would do it.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm

[verbal8]

Why would they trade Arron Afflalo ?

There aren't many players that could get a good pick in the 2014 draft on the trade market. However Affalo is one of them. If they saw Ryan Anderson as too old to keep with their core, isn't Affalo in the same position?

He is playing great and they don't have any cap problems.

They can actually take on salary. Hedu is an exp that can also by buy out.

He is a trade chip, either that or they buy him out and have some cap room this season. He is definitely their first choice to send out in trade talks. However the teams that would be interested in him(his contract) aren't likely to have assets that appeal to the Magic.

The team will have a ton of cap room next year and could easily go after Greg Monroe.

They can pursue Monroe with or without Affalo. However they really can't plan on acquiring him, since he is a restricted free agent.

[dckingsfan]

Why would they trade Arron Afflalo ?

He is playing great and they don't have any cap problems.

They can actually take on salary. Hedu is an exp that can also by buy out.

The team will have a ton of cap room next year and could easily go after Greg Monroe.

They are still thinking of VO as a PG. No reason to move Arron Afflalo.

They could move Nelson to a team that needs cap relief on a long contract if they team needs to reboot. Say KG has had enough and wants to retire or maybe he want to hang out in Orlando for a year being a teacher of some good young talent to give back to the game that gave so much opportunity to him. 12M of KG for one year would be good teaching for a young team like Orlando if he would do it.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm

Read his statement - he is basically saying they aren't going to trade their pick and could be sellers at the trade deadline to pick up more pieces if the deal is righ...

[deneem4]

Vo not going to be point...jus tryin to make him more versatile, something we shouldve did with beal last yr while wall was out...the magic also have a very nice young roster with lots of potential,

Vucevic
Vo
Harris
Harkless
Nicholson
Oquinnn

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Why would they trade Arron Afflalo ?

He is playing great and they don't have any cap problems.

They can actually take on salary. Hedu is an exp that can also by buy out.

The team will have a ton of cap room next year and could easily go after Greg Monroe.

They are still thinking of VO as a PG. No reason to move Arron Afflalo.

They could move Nelson to a team that needs cap relief on a long contract if they team needs to reboot. Say KG has had enough and wants to retire or maybe he want to hang out in Orlando for a year being a teacher of some good young talent to give back to the game that gave so much opportunity to him. 12M of KG for one year would be good teaching for a young team like Orlando if he would do it.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm

Read his statement - he is basically saying they aren't going to trade their pick and could be sellers at the trade deadline to pick up more pieces if the deal is righ...

Read whose statement? Hennigan's? Read it where?

[dckingsfan]

Verbal's post:

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The Kings have dealt theirs top 12 protected (to Cleveland). I think this pretty much means they can't deal it again.

I don't see the Magic dealing theirs. I think they want to acquire one more piece and see what they have with their young players. I could see them being "sellers" in the trade market in moving Arron Afflalo or Nelson if there is interest.

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He isn't saying that they WILL deal Afflalo, just that they could be sellers around the trade deadline...

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Verbal's post:

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The Kings have dealt theirs top 12 protected (to Cleveland). I think this pretty much means they can't deal it again.

I don't see the Magic dealing theirs. I think they want to acquire one more piece and see what they have with their young players. I could see them being "sellers" in the trade market in moving Arron Afflalo or Nelson if there is interest.

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He isn't saying that they WILL deal Afflalo, just that they could be sellers around the trade deadline...

Aahh.

The Magic are rebuilding around their 8 young guys and future assets. I have no doubt that they'd deal any veteran to get more future assets. Above all, I'm quite sure they'd *love* to deal Nelson and/or Davis. And Afflalo has a player option in 2015-16, so I'm sure he's available too. The right deal for them would mean younger players, more cap room sooner, and more picks.

This is a team with a good GM, and you can look for them to speed right by us in the next couple of years.

[fishercob]

What about Ariza, Booker, Seraphin
for
Carlos Boozer

Boozer is heavily overpaid and aging (so he'd be a great fit here), but he's a good player.

He, Nene, and a re-signed Gortat fit together well as a 3-big rotation that could all limit one another's minutes; Vesely and Big Al could spell the top 3 as needed. This would make us a better team for the next two years -- we'd be pretty well positioned to give our young core some needed playoff experience and exposure, and this would help to worsen the pick we send to Phoenix.

Rose's recent injury makes Chicago consider this. There's no way they pay the luxtax to not truly contend, and this gives them the opportunity to get younger and to rebuild and re calibrate on the fly.

This also opens up two roster spots so we can sign a real backup PG -- either from the D-League or someone playing overseas.

The one issue is that once Gortat is extend, it makes filling out the roster and staying under the luxtax a little challenging. Darnit.

[LyricalRico]

^ Yeah, the luxury tax would be an issue. We'd also have zero room to add depth at other positions. I like Boozer, but I think I would pass, or rather flip him to a third team for multiple players.

[MDStar]

Micheal Lee's article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... -new-york/

Tidbit on the Gortat trade, with mention of Asik.

"Before completing the deal for Gortat, the Wizards spoke with a handful of teams in an attempt to acquire a center because of the uncertainty surrounding Emeka Okafor’s neck injury. According to multiple people with knowledge of the situation, the Wizards contacted the Houston Rockets about disgruntled big man Omer Asik.

The conversation didn’t get very far, according to a source, because of the Rockets’ insistence on an unprotected first-round pick in the 2014 draft. At the time of the talks, Houston was still interested in seeing how the union between Asik and Dwight Howard would work out.

The Wizards were also apprehensive about the $15 million balloon payment that Asik is set to receive next season, according to the same source. Washington was finally able to make the deal with Phoenix when the Suns decided to accept a top-12 protected pick next summer."

[fishercob]

^ Yeah, the luxury tax would be an issue. We'd also have zero room to add depth at other positions. I like Boozer, but I think I would pass, or rather flip him to a third team for multiple players.

I would think that if there's a 3rd team that wants Booz for multiple players that they would deal with the Bulls directly.

[LyricalRico]

^ Yeah, the luxury tax would be an issue. We'd also have zero room to add depth at other positions. I like Boozer, but I think I would pass, or rather flip him to a third team for multiple players.

I would think that if there's a 3rd team that wants Booz for multiple players that they would deal with the Bulls directly.

Probably right, although we might still be able to insert ourselves depending on the situation. Anything's possible!