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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#181 » by hands11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:17 am

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80sballboy wrote:Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.


Seconded.


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Go to the 2:30 mark .. and try not to cry.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#182 » by nuposse04 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:23 am

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80sballboy wrote:Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.


Seconded.


http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... r-11-23-13

Go to the 2:30 mark .. and try not to cry.


Rub some dirt on it, you'll be ok Bradley. :P

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#183 » by DCsOwn » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:29 am

hands11 wrote:
DCsOwn wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.


Seconded.


http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... r-11-23-13

Go to the 2:30 mark .. and try not to cry.


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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#184 » by Wizardspride » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:49 am

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Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#185 » by nuposse04 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:04 am

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Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards


"a couple weeks" would be a god send for this soul **** franchise. We gotta protect HC while he's out :/

the one blessing out of all of this, is that FO might give Randy a mandate to not run his players into the ground. More temple, more GR JR and more Booker.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#186 » by nuposse04 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:09 am

If he's out 2 weeks, the next 6 games in that span seem do-able without him sans the Pacers. Especially since Wall has been carrying the team while not getting outstanding production from Beal. I just hope it doesn't become an issue later in the season.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#187 » by Wizardspride » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:09 am

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Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards


"a couple weeks" would be a god send for this soul **** franchise. We gotta protect HC while he's out :/

the one blessing out of all of this, is that FO might give Randy a mandate to not run his players into the ground. More temple, more GR JR and more Booker.

It blows my mind that they never considered this possibility.

The kid missed part the season as well as a significant amount of the summer with this injury.

Common sense would say that perhaps we should ease him into things. :nonono:

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Post#188 » by 80sballboy » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:14 am

Maybe Witt reads this board. "Get Wall back in. Get Beal back in. Get Nene back in with Vesely so we can stagger." (oh right, Beal never sits). Everybody wants to play the bench about 3 minutes a game. Now you know why you need a strong bench and have to give these guys rest.
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Post#189 » by Illmatic21 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:14 am

There's no way the 'reaggravation' of the injury happened all at once, right? The soreness must have been building up throughout these 13 games and even the preseason.

I'm assuming the Wizards medical staff and/or Wittman were either ignorant of that or didn't deem it to be a significant issue at the time.. which is typical

It's all good, Beal will be back in two more weeks..
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Post#190 » by JonathanJoseph » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:28 am

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It's all good, Beal will be back in two more weeks..


Absurd. You do realize this is the Wizards medical staff we're talking about, right? If Beal is out the Wizards will have FIVE players on the injured list.

Everywhere else, a hip flexor takes a few weeks. With the Wizards, it takes 6 months to heal. This is yet another reoccurring injury that this medical staff is responsible for.
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Post#191 » by DCsOwn » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:28 am

Wizardspride wrote:WizardsXTRA
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Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards


What's the formula for correcting our medical staff's prognoses? Multiply by two and add 10 plus solve for the unknown coefficient if I'm not mistaken right?

I'm mentally prepared for him to miss a couple of months if the MRI came back anything but pristine.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#192 » by DaRealHibachi » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:47 am

WizarDynasty wrote:Very rarely am i wrong :roll: but Beal/ Wall combo is sick. Sure Beal is going to have some stinkers...but the guy has the right attitude, energy, and hustle. He is going to have some stinkers but I like that each game i see something totally different that he has improved upon whether making a nice dribble move, moving the ball around after jumping off one foot and forcing the defense to foul him, or fighting through screen to stay with his man. Even if he isn't scoring, he is giving you tons of intangibles.


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Post#194 » by hands11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:50 am

80sballboy wrote:Maybe Witt reads this board. "Get Wall back in. Get Beal back in. Get Nene back in with Vesely so we can stagger." (oh right, Beal never sits). Everybody wants to play the bench about 3 minutes a game. Now you know why you need a strong bench and have to give these guys rest.


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What kind of minute restriction should he have been on ?

With Webster, Trevor A and Otto, I think most of us had Beal at about 32 min.

But they added Glen who doesn't look like the right pick so far. But if you wanted a non scoring PG like Maynor then you needed a ready player drafted at SG. If its not Glen, then you had to play more Temple with Otto not ready. And with the injuries they had, I felt Glen should have been getting a few minutes to learn the NBA game from early on. He looked like he was effect coming out of preseason. So did Ves. Then both were iced by Randy.

With everyone healthy, they had plenty of depth with Webster backing up at SG with actually more players than minutes. But Otto injured and then Trevor A and Singleton exposed the Glen pick and the Crawford trade. But even with that, Randy could have played more Webster.

Problem is, even with everyone except Otto healthy, Randy still played Beal 39 minutes.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400488936

Webster could have played more minutes. Glen could have gotten a few minutes each game, even if it was only 4 min so he could get his feet wet. Temple could get used next to Wall when Wall is in scoring mode. As we see, Ves could get used for rebounds and defense. In a 14 pt win, why was Beal playing 39 mins.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

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Post#196 » by Upper Decker » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:53 pm

Don't worry guys, all's not lost. Otto porter just got back from injury and he played 2-guard during the summer league. Also injuries like this cannot be expected, totally unfortunate, EG's evaluation of the teams performance will only occur AFTER the team returns to full health whether that's this year next year, 2015, 2016, or 2017.
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Post#197 » by hands11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:38 pm

Given Randy just figure out how to do the rotations, I expect him to do most the same but Webster in for Beal and Trevor in for Webster.

He might tweak it some and be a little more mindful of playing players over 38 mins, but I expect him to stick to what worked last game to win games and expand on the concept where he sees he can because we have a lead.

The next two games a winnable that way.

Indy is likely a lose anyway.

ATL is also winnable.

That gets you to Sat, Dec 14 which by then, maybe Singleton is back and he can help take a few minutes. Actually looking forward to seeing him this year in a similar way to how I was excited to see Ves this year. This is his last chance to show he can contribute. Hopefully he fixed his spot up 3 ball. That would help a ton.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#198 » by nate33 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:01 pm

80sballboy wrote:Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.

I've never been of the opinion that extra minutes causes injuries. A game takes two full hours to play. Most players are actually running up and down the court for 34-36 minutes out of 120. Do you really believe an extra 4 minutes of game time over the course of 120 minutes is the make or break point for an injury?

Beal isn't hurt because he played 40 minutes per game. Beal is hurt because he, the coaching staff, and the medical staff aren't on the same page with respect to monitoring his health. If he was developing soreness, he should have said something. If he did say something, it should have been examined. If there was any tangible physical issue, Randy should have been notified and Beal should have sat out a couple of games. Somebody in that sequence dropped the ball. We don't know yet who.
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Post#199 » by dobrojim » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:11 pm

^ +1 and we may never learn who dropped the ball. As much as we criticize Nene
for 'malingering', sometimes that is the wise thing for players to do. Except that
they all believe they're Superman and can't or won't get hurt. Bradley himself
has to be the first one to know that something is wrong. But athletes have a
hard time discerning between normal soreness and injuries.
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Post#200 » by Nivek » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:18 pm

If you're going to look for someone to blame, look at the front office, which constructed a team with zero backcourt depth.
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