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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#21 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:42 pm

December:

Vs Denver
Vs NY
At Milwaukee
Vs Boston
Vs LA Clippers
At Detroit
Vs Philadelphia
Vs Washington
At Philadelphia
Vs Indiana
Vs Chicago
Vs Milwaukee
At Indiana
At San Antonio

:o

The way that this team looks, all of those games are losses.

We can't even beat the bobcats.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#22 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:27 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Related...

Per Isola or Bondy, both Frank n Kidd are at odds with coaching....

Well, whoever's plan has been dictating the way things have been going so far needs to take a backseat.

You really can't get worse than this.

We have a .250 win percentage and are on pace to win 20/21 games this season.

They should throw out the playbook and start from scratch. Look at the personnel that we have, run a freaking offense and play a more simplistic defense.

Start over.

Today should be training camp 2.0 for these guys.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#23 » by brackdan70 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:11 am

Anybody missing PJ? 0.648 winning percentage
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#24 » by Palmeirense » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:11 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Awful PR hire. This is the main reason this team will never go anywhere. Don't fool yourselves into thinking Opie is anything better then an average coach either, let alone the rest of those nobodies on the assistant staff.

Should have went with Shaw or even Karl. Larry Brown would have been a good fit in all likelihood.


Karl would be solid here, we would certainly be in the playoffs at the very least.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#25 » by Palmeirense » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:16 am

MrDollarBills wrote:December:

Vs Denver
Vs NY
At Milwaukee
Vs Boston

Vs LA Clippers
At Detroit
Vs Philadelphia
Vs Washington

At Philadelphia
Vs Indiana
Vs Chicago
Vs Milwaukee

At Indiana
At San Antonio

:o

The way that this team looks, all of those games are losses.

We can't even beat the bobcats.


In bold are the games that i view as winnable, pending on health, of course. If this happens, we would be looking at a 10-4 month. Yeah, maybe i exaggerated. :(
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#26 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:31 am

There's no such thing as a winnable game. this team is a mess.

We may come close to 12-70 with this group.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#27 » by Maf » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:02 pm

Palmeirense wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Awful PR hire. This is the main reason this team will never go anywhere. Don't fool yourselves into thinking Opie is anything better then an average coach either, let alone the rest of those nobodies on the assistant staff.

Should have went with Shaw or even Karl. Larry Brown would have been a good fit in all likelihood.


Karl would be solid here, we would certainly be in the playoffs at the very least.



Karl would be extra funny coaching Nets. After long years of preaching "no superstar basketball" to coaching team with five?

But he would help Nets winning games, that's sure.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#28 » by SpeedyG » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:45 pm

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MaseInYourFace wrote:Outsider POV: he looks lost, a bit over his head. I think he is trying to learn on the fly but at some point he's gotta take command. He's just gotta do what he did as a player and not overthink it so much. He's doubting himself.

I actually agree with this.

The part that infuriates me about Kidd is that we all know that he's way smarter than what he's showing right now.

Unless seeing the floor as a PG is completely different from coaching, I just don't see how he could go from having one of the highest BBIQs during his playing days to an airhead coach.

I still believe he knows the game and knows how it should be played.

The problem is that he's deferring to assistant coaches who have never really had success as head coaches.

I don't care if he's inexperienced. If he sees something wrong, he should go in and fix it if he sees something. It seems like he's either just waiting til he 'pays his dues' in order to assert himself or he really has just lost any sense of understanding of how to lead during the game.

It's so embarrassing to see him on the sideline not doing a single thing.

If that was going to be his position this year, he should've been hired as an assistant coach and sat for a few years while learning under a real coach. But since he's been hired to be the head coach, he should act like a head coach.


Well, this was the major concern I had for Kidd as a HC. He's never been a rah-rah guy. He was a guy who showed his team how to respond by the way he played. Obviously, he can't do that as a coach. I know his style is this calm and quiet demeanor, but he really can't have that as a coach. He needs to communicate...and often.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#29 » by SpeedyG » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:47 pm

Maf wrote:
Palmeirense wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Awful PR hire. This is the main reason this team will never go anywhere. Don't fool yourselves into thinking Opie is anything better then an average coach either, let alone the rest of those nobodies on the assistant staff.

Should have went with Shaw or even Karl. Larry Brown would have been a good fit in all likelihood.


Karl would be solid here, we would certainly be in the playoffs at the very least.



Karl would be extra funny coaching Nets. After long years of preaching "no superstar basketball" to coaching team with five?

But he would help Nets winning games, that's sure.


Karl would be perfect, because the Nets sure as heck are playing like a team with no superstars.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#30 » by supra2k8 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:08 am

He did something today :lol:

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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#31 » by myosin » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:30 am

Veteran move :lol: honestly tho, he should have been an assistant head coach first and not directly jump to head coach job
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#32 » by TheBargnaniRule » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:16 am

myosin wrote:Veteran move :lol: honestly tho, he should have been an assistant head coach first and not directly jump to head coach job


The problem is not that he jumped into a head coaching gig straight away. The problem is jumping into the head coaching gig with a team in win-now mode. It's going to take time for Kidd to develop, which this current Nets core don't have.
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Re: WT: Jason Kidd does nothing during games 

Post#33 » by jerseyjac » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:25 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:Outsider POV: he looks lost, a bit over his head. I think he is trying to learn on the fly but at some point he's gotta take command. He's just gotta do what he did as a player and not overthink it so much. He's doubting himself.

I actually agree with this.

The part that infuriates me about Kidd is that we all know that he's way smarter than what he's showing right now.

Unless seeing the floor as a PG is completely different from coaching, I just don't see how he could go from having one of the highest BBIQs during his playing days to an airhead coach.

I still believe he knows the game and knows how it should be played.

The problem is that he's deferring to assistant coaches who have never really had success as head coaches.

I don't care if he's inexperienced. If he sees something wrong, he should go in and fix it if he sees something. It seems like he's either just waiting til he 'pays his dues' in order to assert himself or he really has just lost any sense of understanding of how to lead during the game.

It's so embarrassing to see him on the sideline not doing a single thing.

If that was going to be his position this year, he should've been hired as an assistant coach and sat for a few years while learning under a real coach. But since he's been hired to be the head coach, he should act like a head coach.

Most rookie head coaches, when their team is struggling, tend to look this way...I also believe when a player jumps into a coaching role the year after he played in the NBA, there's going to be a greater transition period. I'm not saying I don't see the things some of you mention, but IMO, his response or solution is going to be delayed or more laid back...he is more likely (and has shown) the willingness to let his players fix things allowing them to work their way out of in game situations because of the guys we have on this team...lately over the last few games, he seems to be making more changes, right or wrong...timeouts are a little better IMO, especially the spilled cup timeout.

I just think it's easy to jump the gun w/ criticism when he's coaching an injured team...although, you do see how green he is during this period. I believe, just as King has stated, Kidd is the first to say he is learning on the fly and the progress which has been made is not reflective of our record...fans will either deal w/ that reality and accept the fact of the matter or continue down the road of you suck...

It's not embarrassing to watch a rookie coach make mistakes with a struggling injured team...you're actually watching the learning process and the transition that some may have thought would of been easier than we've seen. I do believe he is learning a lot more with the current state of the Nets roster, is likely to make more mistakes and is therefore more susceptible to criticism.

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