GT: Cats vs Celtics Mon Nov 25 7PM EST

[catch20two]

Zeller isn't a stretch 4. Let's just go ahead and nip that in the bud right now. Throw his soft ass in the post. He might get thrown around like a rag doll a bit but at least he'll shoot better than 30% and probably get more rebounds.

This was such a annoying loss because we could've won so easily. I'll give Clifford a some time to get his stuff together but if this is how he's going to manage the whole season then I'm not going to be a fan of his. The superficial Taylor over MKG thing is killing us right now. All this talk about Taylor helping us space the floor down the stretch, when was the last time Taylor helped us win a game with the slightest of heroics?

[mrknowitall215]

Kemba Walker & Gerald Henderson finally get on the right track as a backcourt duo over the last couple of games, and Steve Clifford finds a way to make himself the problem. The Bobcats starting unit is actually pretty good together. They seem to get out to a early lead or stay competitive every game. Even after the bench unit put them in a hole, it's usually a guarantee that the starters lead by Kemba will make a comeback at some given time

[Eoghan]

Thing is, Zeller is getting the ball in his spot. He loves the high post and needs space and quickness to beat his man and make a move toward the hoop. Gets bodied by his man, does a quick spin move around him and then finishes usually left with a driving layup, that was his go-to move at Indiana. The problem is, he can't throw the ball in the ocean right now and defenders are leaving him wide open and forcing him into jumpshots. So then he's either aggressive and trying to create something (he's not good at this, partly due to subpar handles) or being passive and just trying to keep the ball moving.

[ball teacher]

Thing is, Zeller is getting the ball in his spot. He loves the high post and needs space and quickness to beat his man and make a move toward the hoop. Gets bodied by his man, does a quick spin move around him and then finishes usually left with a driving layup, that was his go-to move at Indiana. The problem is, he can't throw the ball in the ocean right now and defenders are leaving him wide open and forcing him into jumpshots. So then he's either aggressive and trying to create something (he's not good at this, partly due to subpar handles) or being passive and just trying to keep the ball moving.

Looking at Cody's highlight and from what I remember of him in Indiana, he was never a stretch 4 who played mostly away from the rim.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6IrTEWLoy8[/youtube]

In this next video you'll see what the scouts said his positives and strengths were. At 7:18 of the video it says of his shooting potential that he "only took 24 jump shots but he has good mechanics (75.7 ft%) will be able to showcase shooting stroke more in the NBA game. So I cant understand how you can draft a athletic big with good post game and relegate him to being mostly a stretch 4 when thats not his game.

However it does say that his weakness is that he hasnt gotten stronger from his fresh to soph seasons and that he has tendency to get pushed around inside. If that was known you have to wonder why you'd draft a big guy 4th who seems weak inside. If you want a stretch 4 you wouldnt want that stretch 4 to be a guy who only took 24 jump shots the whole season would you?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvb2SNJ9T4w[/youtube]

I think Zeller needs to get in the weight room workout with Oakley and Biz to develop strength and toughness and be used primarily as a posting, pick and roll type big man. I honestly see nothing in Zeller's game that says he should be used as a perimeter shooting big.

[mrknowitall215]

Starting 5 Stats Around The NBA (Small Sample Size of 15 games)



Like I aforementioned, the starting 5 is pretty good, like 40+ wins good

...but the bench, Jeff Taylor & Cody Zeller specifically, is horrible