Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

[pb-ceo]

that team is an accident waiting to happen on several levels. one being injury. and two Cousins is a potential volcano of trouble. he's potentially still unstable.

We could keep Kirk plus we'd have a pretty good pick to add an athletic bench player. As for Cousins, meh, half of great players in history are potential volcanos of trouble. Really, other than guys like David Robinson, Dream, and Tim Duncan, star players are often hard to handle. They have enormous egos cause they know they are the ****. Michael Jordan punched a teammate in practice.

true but I don't think buckets would be included in a deal like that. buckets is one of the few people athletic players we have and he's young. just what we need. cousins is still dicey as a personality imo. I don't seem bg7 as a starter. he's actually going to have trouble staying in the league. I think he's made his money and really just has been going through the motions. candidate for Russia or China leagues.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

I actually like the Thornton Thomas and salmons for deng deal

I mean if we not going to tank we might as well build a quick playoff team and I really think Thomas is a great player who could shine under thibs. He would be Nate with better decision making

Thorton would be a good 2 guard who can stretch the floor and salmons would add depth especially with jimmy being down.

I also really really like deng and Teague for afflalo and jameer Nelson that would make us a def top 4 team in the east

Why would Orlando want Deng when Affalo is cheaper, younger, and playing out of his mind right now?

[weneeda2guard]

I actually like the Thornton Thomas and salmons for deng deal

I mean if we not going to tank we might as well build a quick playoff team and I really think Thomas is a great player who could shine under thibs. He would be Nate with better decision making

Thorton would be a good 2 guard who can stretch the floor and salmons would add depth especially with jimmy being down.

I also really really like deng and Teague for afflalo and jameer Nelson that would make us a def top 4 team in the east

Why would Orlando want Deng when Affalo is cheaper, younger, and playing out of his mind right now?

Well according to the Orlando fans afflalo is on his way out to make room for olidipo development and a expiring like deng clears enough space to add a couple players for them

I thought it was well known that afflalo jameer and big baby where being shopped? That has been known

[JohnnyKILLroy]

I actually like the Thornton Thomas and salmons for deng deal

I mean if we not going to tank we might as well build a quick playoff team and I really think Thomas is a great player who could shine under thibs. He would be Nate with better decision making

Thorton would be a good 2 guard who can stretch the floor and salmons would add depth especially with jimmy being down.

I also really really like deng and Teague for afflalo and jameer Nelson that would make us a def top 4 team in the east

Why would Orlando want Deng when Affalo is cheaper, younger, and playing out of his mind right now?

Well according to the Orlando fans afflalo is on his way out to make room for olidipo development and a expiring like deng clears enough space to add a couple players for them

I thought it was well known that afflalo jameer and big baby where being shopped? That has been known

Yes it is but not for Deng. They don't need to clear cap space.

[weneeda2guard]

Why would Orlando want Deng when Affalo is cheaper, younger, and playing out of his mind right now?

Well according to the Orlando fans afflalo is on his way out to make room for olidipo development and a expiring like deng clears enough space to add a couple players for them

I thought it was well known that afflalo jameer and big baby where being shopped? That has been known

Yes it is but not for Deng. They don't need to clear cap space.

They do if they want to add 2 max level players to add with olidipo and whoever they get out the draft this season plus they want to extend Tobias Harris down the line. They have kind if made it clear that jameer and big baby is not in they future plans and afflalo was thought of like that as well its just he been playing so well that talk has died some. But according to they fans they know all 3 of guys and hedo are basically all gone and if a team is willing to take on either jameer big baby or hedo contract they can get afflalo

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Turkoglu is an expiring deal. Affalo will get them a better return than Deng who might be a rental and yes I think they could deal Jameer.

[GimmeDat]

Heard from a friend that we were looking at Bennett/Gee/filler for Deng, and was extremely skeptical. Turns out he was one of those gullible people that believes everything they read on Bleacher Report is more than baseless rumours.

Thinking about it though, would anyone take it? Even though Bennett's looking like a bust, I'm still optimistic he becomes a strong NBA player, so I'd take him over any realistic 1st we could get for Deng. Helps the 'tank' in the short term, but he still has the upside of a #1 pick in the long term. Gee's a solid player too.

As for the Cavs, I'm not sure that they'd do it, of course trading any #1 pick in year 1 is highly unlikely. However, Irving/Waiters/Deng/Thompson/Bynum is a really strong lineup. If they think Bennett is a bust, this could be a great opportunity for them to milk whatever value he has before it disappears and it would make them a legit playoff threat.

Thoughts?

E: Eh, never mind, salaries don't match up anyway. Thought it would be a stretch. Only way to even it up would be to throw in Varejao (9 mil) but the trade was far fetched enough as it is.

[BossHoggin]

Not going to happen

[Chi town]

I don't believe the Afflalo stuff. He stays next to Dipo.

I think CLE ATL and PHO are our trade partners.

[The Kane]

Your still trading 2 all stars for a potential one no matter how much off an all star you consider Jo and Lu. Trust me i understand Cousins is great but i don't think he's a guy that commands giving away all stars for. Just my opinion though.

I disagree Jimmy is an important asset going forward as a starter. I also doubt he gets overpaid since all we see in him is good defense.

Cousins is a potential SUPERSTAR who is only 23 years old. Deng and Noah are veterans pushing 30 who won't be getting any better, and if anything will be getting worse in the coming years.

Them being All-Stars doesn't change the fact that they're both offensively limited role players. If the Kings offer Cousins for Deng and Noah you take it and run.

[Chi town]

Your still trading 2 all stars for a potential one no matter how much off an all star you consider Jo and Lu. Trust me i understand Cousins is great but i don't think he's a guy that commands giving away all stars for. Just my opinion though.

I disagree Jimmy is an important asset going forward as a starter. I also doubt he gets overpaid since all we see in him is good defense.

Cousins is a potential SUPERSTAR who is only 23 years old. Deng and Noah are veterans pushing 30 who won't be getting any better, and if anything will be getting worse in the coming years.

Them being All-Stars doesn't change the fact that they're both offensively limited role players. If the Kings offer Cousins for Deng and Noah you take it and run.

No you dont. Unless you then trade Cousins for another player. Cousins is a head case and not a winner. I pass.

[GimmeDat]

I reckon the headcase label on Cousins is unfair.. it appears all the trouble he gets into is a result of his competitiveness; he's never appeared to be a bad character sort of guy. That being said, he does need to work on his temperament, which I'm sure would be better here considering the winning culture, and as long as that's not an issue he's a 100% legitimate star in this league.

[kodo]

Heard from a friend that we were looking at Bennett/Gee/filler for Deng, and was extremely skeptical. Turns out he was one of those gullible people that believes everything they read on Bleacher Report is more than baseless rumours.

Thinking about it though, would anyone take it? Even though Bennett's looking like a bust, I'm still optimistic he becomes a strong NBA player, so I'd take him over any realistic 1st we could get for Deng. Helps the 'tank' in the short term, but he still has the upside of a #1 pick in the long term. Gee's a solid player too.

As for the Cavs, I'm not sure that they'd do it, of course trading any #1 pick in year 1 is highly unlikely. However, Irving/Waiters/Deng/Thompson/Bynum is a really strong lineup. If they think Bennett is a bust, this could be a great opportunity for them to milk whatever value he has before it disappears and it would make them a legit playoff threat.

Thoughts?

E: Eh, never mind, salaries don't match up anyway. Thought it would be a stretch. Only way to even it up would be to throw in Varejao (9 mil) but the trade was far fetched enough as it is.

IMO the Cavs' gameplan is to bring Lebron back to Cleveland. The glaring hole at SF isn't there by accident. Until then, i don't think they give up any of their cap space until Lebron signs somewhere else.

[Keller61]

Hard to think that we've probably seen the last of Luol Deng and Derrick Rose playing together.

[B-easy]

Wait, why people taking about cousins? there is no chance kings trade him.

[BullsFTW]

Maybe the Pistons can become a good trading partner. Deng for Villanueva and their 2014 1st.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Maybe the Pistons can become a good trading partner. Deng for Villanueva and their 2014 1st.

The Bobcats get their pick. Top 8 protected. IIRC

[Proven_Winner]

Your still trading 2 all stars for a potential one no matter how much off an all star you consider Jo and Lu. Trust me i understand Cousins is great but i don't think he's a guy that commands giving away all stars for. Just my opinion though.

I disagree Jimmy is an important asset going forward as a starter. I also doubt he gets overpaid since all we see in him is good defense.

Cousins is a potential SUPERSTAR who is only 23 years old. Deng and Noah are veterans pushing 30 who won't be getting any better, and if anything will be getting worse in the coming years.

Them being All-Stars doesn't change the fact that they're both offensively limited role players. If the Kings offer Cousins for Deng and Noah you take it and run.

I agree with the top half.

Also them being All-Stars doesn't change that they're both one of the top 3 defenders at their position and are great veteran leadership. If the Kings offered that they need to add a filler since the salary doesn't match up so like i said they need to give us more than just Cousins.

[transplant]

When it comes to Deng, I have two acceptable results:

- Bulls re-sign Deng

- Bulls trade Deng

Naturally, the specifics of either of these two alternatives matter, but I trust the FO not to do something totally stupid.

What's not acceptable to me is for the Bulls to try to re-sign Deng this summer and fail.

[Ralphb07]

I don't need a 2014 1st for Lu. Just give me an expiring contract guy who is worse than Lu and some kind of future consideration.